2013-2014 NHL Uniform & Logo Changes

[FiddySicks]

Sigh, why do these uniform change threads always turn into wish lists? Take that to another thread, please.

[Xodius]

I'm still rather confused by the first teaser Carolina put out:

Clearly the nameplate is within the shoulder yoke, an aspect of the away that differs from the home. However, if this teaser is a preview of the away, where's the white below the nameplate? If it's a preview of the home, why is the nameplate in the shoulder yoke (and why is the stitching different as opposed to the traditional oval shoulder yoke stitching design see here)? Bad photoshoped teaser by the Carolina PR team?

[Sport]

I'd stop worrying about it. The nameplate is inside the shoulder yoke on both the home and road jerseys. The lettering looks photoshopped, and it probably is, so that's why the stitching looks different.

[JQK]

Aren't the Devils essentially the Rangers with black instead of blue?

This may be the dumbest thing i've ever heard on these boards... and i remember the summer of 2011...

[NYYNYR]

Aren't the Devils essentially the Rangers with black instead of blue?

This may be the dumbest thing i've ever heard on these boards... and i remember the summer of 2011...

Not shockingly, I think you missed the larger point. Oh well.

[Midway]

The Devils are not the Rangers with black instead of blue even in a vague comparison. Though I won't be reverting to ad hominem about it, I think in the spectrum of the point you were attempting to make, it was still a poor example.

[Kramerica Industries]

As someone who was kinda-sorta-not really here that much in the "summer of '11", I can only presume that comment was made in reference to the Winnipeg Jets, both whether they should've moved back to Winnipeg and what their name should've been.

amirite?

[NYYNYR]

The Devils are not the Rangers with black instead of blue even in a vague comparison. Though I won't be reverting to ad hominem about it, I think in the spectrum of the point you were attempting to make, it was still a poor example.

OK, I guess that's fair. I don't know how many different ways from Sunday I can get across to some of you that jersey designs have NEVER been wholly original (even in the "golden years") and have always involved imitation/mimicry. Do you honestly look at the Devils' uniform design as completely unique and original? They took NO elements from the Bruins or Rangers? Come on.

[BigBubba]

You don't know what iconic means.

I do like that uniform a lot though.

If you wanna go there, the Cambridge Dictionary defines "iconic" as "very famous or popular, especially being considered to represent particular opinions or a particular time". Pretty much sums up why classic hockey looks are considered "iconic" - being very famous and representing old-time hockey tradition and greatness. The Habs' uniforms are iconic because they're associated with some of the greatest dynasties in the sport, and heck, even an entire culture. Anyone who knows a lick about hockey knows that logo and what it represents. That is iconic.

Right. There's nothing iconic at all about that Sharks uniform. Doesn't mean it's not really nice though.

That's what I've been saying...

[Puckguy14]

It always bothered me how the white socks stripe went teal-gray-teal when it so obviously should've gone black-gray-teal. The sleeves have that striping scheme, why didn't the socks?

What the socks show are what Nike was originally going to do with the Sharks uniforms. Nike originally had no black in the white jersey with a teal thin stripe above the name plate. Which they matched with by going whiteon top, thin teal, thin shimmering grey, and the rest all teal.

Originally the Nike Sharks jersey was to have a zipper collar, but that was rejected for the Y-yolk, and a thin white stripe outline the shimmering grey on the jersey, hence why the socks always had that thin white stripe.

[Chromatic]

OK- so if you guys had it your way, how would each team look?

Me:

Anaheim- Change the black to a dark green, make the duck mask logo the primary in updated colors. Webbed foot as shoulder patch.

Boston- Change nothing except add a hem stripe to the alt.

Buffalo- Remove piping, lighten the blue.

Calgary- Go back to either the pre-edge set or maybe add some black to the 80s set.

Carolina- Go back to two days ago.

Chicago- Change nothing.

Colorado- Pre-edge set.

Columbus- I'm really not sure. I think they need something new altogether.

Dallas- I'm content with the new unis, save for a few tweaks here and there.

Detroit- nothing.

Edmonton- never change again.

Florida- Back to the gorgeous pre-edge set.

Los Angeles- I don't mind their new unis, although a little purple would be nice. Remove piping.

Minnesota- Make the third your template for home and away. Add the bear head logo to the front.

Montreal- nothing.

Nashville- Navy alternate would be nice, but for now, just remove the piping.

New Jersey- nothing

NY Islanders- nothing, but for the love of god burn all the alternates ever produced. A well done orange third could be nice.

NY Rangers- nothing.

Ottawa- Go back to anything you wore before these cookie cutter pieces of crap.

Philadelphia- Could use some tweaks, but nice altogether.

Phoenix- I loved their original set, but I understand that most people didn't. Add a hem stripe to an otherwise solid set.

Pittsburgh- Who's in charge here? Pre-edge or modernize your 80's-90's unis. Come on now, your uniforms are gross.

St. Louis- Same as Pittsburgh. Pre-edge or modernize the 70's unis.

San Jose- Remove orange, replace with silver.

Tampa Bay- They need black.

Toronto- nothing.

Vancouver- remove workmark, atleast off the home.

Washington- Use a striping pattern based on your retro, make a blue alternate with the Weagle logo.

Winnipeg- They've sort of grown on me, but they need a little more red.

Anaheim- Colours are fine. I'd change up the hem striping to something less asymmetrical and disjointed.

Wait !! At present, Anaheim is the only team to use a "unique" / asymmetrical hem striping. If they follow your change, won't this be Original 6 dress-up??

You can have a jersey without horrible, unbalanced striping that isn't o6 dress up

[Sport]

It always bothered me how the white socks stripe went teal-gray-teal when it so obviously should've gone black-gray-teal. The sleeves have that striping scheme, why didn't the socks?

What the socks show are what Nike was originally going to do with the Sharks uniforms. Nike originally had no black in the white jersey with a teal thin stripe above the name plate. Which they matched with by going whiteon top, thin teal, thin shimmering grey, and the rest all teal.

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Originally the Nike Sharks jersey was to have a zipper collar, but that was rejected for the Y-yolk, and a thin white stripe outline the shimmering grey on the jersey, hence why the socks always had that thin white stripe.

So they updated the jerseys, but never bothered to change the socks?

For the record, I miss that Sharks uniform a lot. I can't decide whether I prefer it to their inaugural unis or not. All I know is they're far better than the current uniforms.

[Puckguy14]

Trust me, when Icethetics broke the news about a uniform change for San Jose, Sharks fans were excited as long as it doesn't involve Black Armor becoming the primary jersey, which the team's VP of business and supposedly the team (they say the black jersey weighs less) both like.

[BigBubba]

Wait !! At present, Anaheim is the only team to use a "unique" / asymmetrical hem striping. If they follow your change, won't this be Original 6 dress-up??

For the love of God man, nobody thinks that straight hem stripes automatically mean Original Six dress-up. We appreciate modern and unique striping patterns, absolutely, but in cases like the 90s Kings (Gretzky era and the late '90s set), you can look modern with straight hem stripes. Again, nobody has said that straight hem stripes make a jersey a wannabe old-school. Go back through the pages and try to find one post that says that.

[WSU151]

I'm still rather confused by the first teaser Carolina put out:

I probably missed the discussion on it...but is that a matte red helmet?

[hockey week]

I'm still rather confused by the first teaser Carolina put out:

I probably missed the discussion on it...but is that a matte red helmet?

I'm still rather confused by the first teaser Carolina put out:

Clearly the nameplate is within the shoulder yoke, an aspect of the away that differs from the home. However, if this teaser is a preview of the away, where's the white below the nameplate? If it's a preview of the home, why is the nameplate in the shoulder yoke (and why is the stitching different as opposed to the traditional oval shoulder yoke stitching design see here)? Bad photoshoped teaser by the Carolina PR team?

OHHHHHHHHHHH! I see it now!

Ok, clearly this is not a matte helmet

Look at that shine.

But because the photo is really of the white jersey and photoshopped, they had to photoshop the white helmet to red as well, causing the matte look. It's as simple as that.

[NYYNYR]

OK- so if you guys had it your way, how would each team look?

Me:

Anaheim- Change the black to a dark green, make the duck mask logo the primary in updated colors. Webbed foot as shoulder patch.

Boston- Change nothing except add a hem stripe to the alt.

Buffalo- Remove piping, lighten the blue.

Calgary- Go back to either the pre-edge set or maybe add some black to the 80s set.

Carolina- Go back to two days ago.

Chicago- Change nothing.

Colorado- Pre-edge set.

Columbus- I'm really not sure. I think they need something new altogether.

Dallas- I'm content with the new unis, save for a few tweaks here and there.

Detroit- nothing.

Edmonton- never change again.

Florida- Back to the gorgeous pre-edge set.

Los Angeles- I don't mind their new unis, although a little purple would be nice. Remove piping.

Minnesota- Make the third your template for home and away. Add the bear head logo to the front.

Montreal- nothing.

Nashville- Navy alternate would be nice, but for now, just remove the piping.

New Jersey- nothing

NY Islanders- nothing, but for the love of god burn all the alternates ever produced. A well done orange third could be nice.

NY Rangers- nothing.

Ottawa- Go back to anything you wore before these cookie cutter pieces of crap.

Philadelphia- Could use some tweaks, but nice altogether.

Phoenix- I loved their original set, but I understand that most people didn't. Add a hem stripe to an otherwise solid set.

Pittsburgh- Who's in charge here? Pre-edge or modernize your 80's-90's unis. Come on now, your uniforms are gross.

St. Louis- Same as Pittsburgh. Pre-edge or modernize the 70's unis.

San Jose- Remove orange, replace with silver.

Tampa Bay- They need black.

Toronto- nothing.

Vancouver- remove workmark, atleast off the home.

Washington- Use a striping pattern based on your retro, make a blue alternate with the Weagle logo.

Winnipeg- They've sort of grown on me, but they need a little more red.

Anaheim- Colours are fine. I'd change up the hem striping to something less asymmetrical and disjointed.

Wait !! At present, Anaheim is the only team to use a "unique" / asymmetrical hem striping. If they follow your change, won't this be Original 6 dress-up??

You can have a jersey without horrible, unbalanced striping that isn't o6 dress up

Yes, I know. That was my point. Jeesh. Next time I'll put : "sarcasm alert." I agree with you. Not for nothing, guys.... I feel like most of you are solid fans who love hockey and the designs that make up our great sport, but a lot of you cannot read, form coherent thoughts, avoid contradicting yourselves or understand sarcasm. Read my posts over again, and I hope you'll find the common thread, pun intended. So far, guys like Fillmont and Means have really stood out in terms of FOLLOWING what I've been saying. So, yes, you CAN have "traditional" striping that doesn't infringe on the Original 6. Yes.

[NYYNYR]

Wait !! At present, Anaheim is the only team to use a "unique" / asymmetrical hem striping. If they follow your change, won't this be Original 6 dress-up??

For the love of God man, nobody thinks that straight hem stripes automatically mean Original Six dress-up. We appreciate modern and unique striping patterns, absolutely, but in cases like the 90s Kings (Gretzky era and the late '90s set), you can look modern with straight hem stripes. Again, nobody has said that straight hem stripes make a jersey a wannabe old-school. Go back through the pages and try to find one post that says that.

Bubba Gump: I was being playful. Yes, I agree with you. I was simply deriding the whole concept of "Original 6 dress-up" because it's a stupid concept, doesn't make sense, doesn't hold water historically and ignores the fact that many teams mimic each other with respect to striping/ piping/ color schemes. Sorry that I didn't say "Sarcasm ahead..." And, seriously, if you think the Kings jerseys are unique, I don't know if I can take your opinion seriously going forward (that's not sarcasm). They blatantly stole the Raiders' scheme to profit from their popularity, and the current jerseys are a bit of false nostalgia. Furthermore, the home lacks straight hem stripes, so I'm not sure I follow what you're saying in the slightest. It's a fine enough jersey, but it's not "interesting" in an remote way. Are you saying the striping on the shoulders is "unique" ??? I guess. It's also very unnecessary. Whatever

[BigBubba]

Wait !! At present, Anaheim is the only team to use a "unique" / asymmetrical hem striping. If they follow your change, won't this be Original 6 dress-up??

For the love of God man, nobody thinks that straight hem stripes automatically mean Original Six dress-up. We appreciate modern and unique striping patterns, absolutely, but in cases like the 90s Kings (Gretzky era and the late '90s set), you can look modern with straight hem stripes. Again, nobody has said that straight hem stripes make a jersey a wannabe old-school. Go back through the pages and try to find one post that says that.

Bubba Gump: I was being playful. Yes, I agree with you. I was simply deriding the whole concept of "Original 6 dress-up" because it's a stupid concept, doesn't make sense, doesn't hold water historically and ignores the fact that many teams mimic each other with respect to striping/ piping/ color schemes. Sorry that I didn't say "Sarcasm ahead..." And, seriously, if you think the Kings jerseys are unique, I don't know if I can take your opinion seriously going forward (that's not sarcasm). They blatantly stole the Raiders' scheme to profit from their popularity, and the current jerseys are a bit of false nostalgia. Furthermore, the home lacks straight hem stripes, so I'm not sure I follow what you're saying in the slightest. It's a fine enough jersey, but it's not "interesting" in an remote way. Are you saying the striping on the shoulders is "unique" ??? I guess. It's also very unnecessary. Whatever

Swing and a miss.

And, seriously, if you think the Kings jerseys are unique, I don't know if I can take your opinion seriously going forward (that's not sarcasm). They blatantly stole the Raiders' scheme to profit from their popularity

I thought it was implied that I was referring to only within the NHL. If you're going to consider other designs in other sports, then nobody looks unique. Because of the Colts, the Leafs don't look unique; because of the Pirates, the Bruins don't look unique, etc. When the Kings wore that Gretzky set, they looked unique. Nobody in the league looked like that. It doesn't matter what a bunch of players playing a different sport in a different city in a different league looked like. That's honestly about as far-fetched as you can get.

Secondly, let's look at their late '90s set which I also referred to (and which you conveniently ignored). Silver, purple, and black? That's a pretty darn unique colour scheme, which nobody in the NHL has ever worn. Except for the Baltimore Ravens (oh wait...).

Hell, I didn't even say in that post that those jerseys were unique (they were indeed, but I just didn't mention it there). I was saying how they looked modern. Silver and black? Pretty modern if you ask me. Not to mention "Los Angeles" in the hem stripes and the number font in the late '90s set. You managed to miss the whole point of my post and still be wrong.

and the current jerseys are a bit of false nostalgia. Furthermore, the home lacks straight hem stripes, so I'm not sure I follow what you're saying in the slightest

Reading is fun!

Read my post again, bud. I never even referenced their current set. I did so for a reason - it sucks. The lack of hem stripes (razor-thin lines don't count as stripes) on the home, the black-on-black logo on the home, the crappy "home plate" logo, and the under-use of silver ruin it for me.

It's a fine enough jersey, but it's not "interesting" in an remote way

Interesting? What? Where did that come from?

Are you saying the striping on the shoulders is "unique" ???

Yikes. Talk about a straw-man.

[Chromatic]

OK- so if you guys had it your way, how would each team look?

Me:

Anaheim- Change the black to a dark green, make the duck mask logo the primary in updated colors. Webbed foot as shoulder patch.

Boston- Change nothing except add a hem stripe to the alt.

Buffalo- Remove piping, lighten the blue.

Calgary- Go back to either the pre-edge set or maybe add some black to the 80s set.

Carolina- Go back to two days ago.

Chicago- Change nothing.

Colorado- Pre-edge set.

Columbus- I'm really not sure. I think they need something new altogether.

Dallas- I'm content with the new unis, save for a few tweaks here and there.

Detroit- nothing.

Edmonton- never change again.

Florida- Back to the gorgeous pre-edge set.

Los Angeles- I don't mind their new unis, although a little purple would be nice. Remove piping.

Minnesota- Make the third your template for home and away. Add the bear head logo to the front.

Montreal- nothing.

Nashville- Navy alternate would be nice, but for now, just remove the piping.

New Jersey- nothing

NY Islanders- nothing, but for the love of god burn all the alternates ever produced. A well done orange third could be nice.

NY Rangers- nothing.

Ottawa- Go back to anything you wore before these cookie cutter pieces of crap.

Philadelphia- Could use some tweaks, but nice altogether.

Phoenix- I loved their original set, but I understand that most people didn't. Add a hem stripe to an otherwise solid set.

Pittsburgh- Who's in charge here? Pre-edge or modernize your 80's-90's unis. Come on now, your uniforms are gross.

St. Louis- Same as Pittsburgh. Pre-edge or modernize the 70's unis.

San Jose- Remove orange, replace with silver.

Tampa Bay- They need black.

Toronto- nothing.

Vancouver- remove workmark, atleast off the home.

Washington- Use a striping pattern based on your retro, make a blue alternate with the Weagle logo.

Winnipeg- They've sort of grown on me, but they need a little more red.

Anaheim- Colours are fine. I'd change up the hem striping to something less asymmetrical and disjointed.

Wait !! At present, Anaheim is the only team to use a "unique" / asymmetrical hem striping. If they follow your change, won't this be Original 6 dress-up??

You can have a jersey without horrible, unbalanced striping that isn't o6 dress up

Yes, I know. That was my point. Jeesh. Next time I'll put : "sarcasm alert." I agree with you. Not for nothing, guys.... I feel like most of you are solid fans who love hockey and the designs that make up our great sport, but a lot of you cannot read, form coherent thoughts, avoid contradicting yourselves or understand sarcasm. Read my posts over again, and I hope you'll find the common thread, pun intended. So far, guys like Fillmont and Means have really stood out in terms of FOLLOWING what I've been saying. So, yes, you CAN have "traditional" striping that doesn't infringe on the Original 6. Yes.

Theres no need to question our reading comprehension capabilities, especially when you make posts like that.