Jungle Jim Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Because the block numbers compliment the custom fonts. They are sufficiently neutral to work with any font, balancing the design.Custom fonts with matching numbers are overly fussy. Too much. It takes an otherwise-good font and ruins it through saturation, like with the Reds. Neutral numbers break up that same-sameness and allow the wordmarks to stand better on their own.It's particularly bad when the Reds had such a good, distinct block font, which they used from the Big Red Machine era up until black was added in. That's what teams should do. Find distinctive block fonts rather than coming up with some gimmicky crap. The Reds today would look much better with their proprietary block font. It's also one of the reasons I maintain the Jaguars looked so much better in 1996 with the rounded block font than with their custom font which followed.What did the Reds' block font from that era look like?I, too, wish they'd go back to the block font and eliminate the black altogether. My biggest gripe with the 1972-92 jerseys was that the names were too large...way too large...and there was too much spacing between the letters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillz Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 From that one pic, it doesn't look much different from other block fonts I've seen. What specifically was unique about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOldRoman Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 In that picture, they're wearing MLB block (except for maybe Pete Rose). I didn't know the Reds used MLB block in that era. Anyway, I can't post pictures on my work computer, for some reason. Google Barry Larkin, Reggie Sanders, Jose Rijo, or other the 1990 Reds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I think the Reds had the Z-shaped 2 and a few other little angles here and there that were different from standard block. And hey, neon green Mariners might be fun. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOldRoman Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Yes, Z-shaped 2. The font was thicker than MLB block, but still much thinner than what the Yankees, Braves or Tigers use. Also, it had smaller angles than MLB block. It was blockier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmac Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Because the block numbers compliment the custom fonts. They are sufficiently neutral to work with any font, balancing the design. Custom fonts with matching numbers are overly fussy. Too much. It takes an otherwise-good font and ruins it through saturation, like with the Reds. Neutral numbers break up that same-sameness and allow the wordmarks to stand better on their own.Is not the only reason block numbers are considered okay because it's a sports team? In the basic interest of design, the numbers clash. There's no way around that. But because this is baseball it gets a pass. I realize I'll never change anyone's mind on this, I'm just trying to make a point. https://www.behance.net/bmatukewic8043 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBubba Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Because the block numbers compliment the custom fonts. They are sufficiently neutral to work with any font, balancing the design. Custom fonts with matching numbers are overly fussy. Too much. It takes an otherwise-good font and ruins it through saturation, like with the Reds. Neutral numbers break up that same-sameness and allow the wordmarks to stand better on their own.Sorry, major pet peeve: it's "complement the custom fonts". Nobody cares about your humungous-big signature. PotD: 29/1/12   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 You are absolutely correct. Thanks for the correction.Can I blame my phone's auto-correct? Because the block numbers complement the custom fonts. They are sufficiently neutral to work with any font, balancing the design.Custom fonts with matching numbers are overly fussy. Too much. It takes an otherwise-good font and ruins it through saturation, like with the Reds. Neutral numbers break up that same-sameness and allow the wordmarks to stand better on their own.Is not the only reason block numbers are considered okay because it's a sports team? In the basic interest of design, the numbers clash. There's no way around that. But because this is baseball it gets a pass. I realize I'll never change anyone's mind on this, I'm just trying to make a point.Not at all. It's possible to mix fonts under any number of conditions. Happens all the time in the world of design.Different fonts don't automatically clash. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee. Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 If it were a standard mlb block nameplate and fancypants numbers we wouldn't be having this conversation. Welcome to DrunjFlix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generalshepherd141 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 If I were to make changes, one of my first would have to be trashing the Nats' Walgreens cap logo for something more original, and maybe even adding gold back into the color scheme.-UNPOPULAR OPINION ALERT-The Padres should definitely change from what they have now. However, if they go back to "the toilets", as I call them, I wouldn't be a fan. I would recommend maroon and orange, as it's similar to the retros, but not as crappy-looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zpqmaowl Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 I rank them in the order of 2, 1, 3, 4. the worst helmets design to me is the Jacksonville jaguars hamlets from 1995 to 2012 because you can't see the logo vary wall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jungle Jim Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 I rank them in the order of 2, 1, 3, 4.I detest the dropshadow on the Reds road uniforms, but the lettering and numbers on the home whites doesn't look right without some sort of offset or outline. That being said, since this example is of the road grays, I'd go with 4, 3, 2, 1. In other words, the last three are all improvements over what they actually wear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackieMoon Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Since a lot of teams are going back to their roots. San Diego should go back to brown/yellow and old swinging padre logo. Brewers back to the mb glove logo. White Sox... although they are in their Shoeless Joe's the old swinging batter? Mariners back to their trident M? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rxmc89 Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 A team who should overhaul just their home uniform: The Twins. I know they just changed their roads and alts, but that home uniform has stayed since '87 and it is just old and stale. It's 2014 and it's time to move on from that big blocky font.Why? It still looks good and I don't see why they need to change it just because "it's 2014", that makes no sense and just sounds like change for the sake of change. Plus they won 2 World Series in the current look. There are plenty of other teams that have had the same look since long before 1987, should they change too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rxmc89 Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 A team who should overhaul just their home uniform: The Twins. I know they just changed their roads and alts, but that home uniform has stayed since '87 and it is just old and stale. It's 2014 and it's time to move on from that big blocky font.I agree. When I see their home uniform, I think of the MetroDome, Kirby Puckett (God rest his soul!) Kent Hrbeck, Gary Gaetti, Tom Brunansky, etc.Yeah, such painful memories for Twins fans. Why would they ever want to be reminded of those times? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timehasflownby Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 A team who should overhaul just their home uniform: The Twins. I know they just changed their roads and alts, but that home uniform has stayed since '87 and it is just old and stale. It's 2014 and it's time to move on from that big blocky font.I agree. When I see their home uniform, I think of the MetroDome, Kirby Puckett (God rest his soul!) Kent Hrbeck, Gary Gaetti, Tom Brunansky, etc.Yeah, such painful memories for Twins fans. Why would they ever want to be reminded of those times?Reminds me that the Twins should use their M cap more often Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoffingYayap Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 A team who should overhaul just their home uniform: The Twins. I know they just changed their roads and alts, but that home uniform has stayed since '87 and it is just old and stale. It's 2014 and it's time to move on from that big blocky font.I agree. When I see their home uniform, I think of the MetroDome, Kirby Puckett (God rest his soul!) Kent Hrbeck, Gary Gaetti, Tom Brunansky, etc.Yeah, such painful memories for Twins fans. Why would they ever want to be reminded of those times?It's about strictly that they've worn them forever, it's that they haven't aged well in my eyes. The design looks too 80s/90s. My WorkFull MLB Concept (Plus Expos)The Modern Philadelphia Athletics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohryan Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 The Twins had a great identity until they decided to go back to the "TC" cap and added the "creme" colored home uniforms. They had a fresh look that debuted in 1997 and still looked good nearly 20 years later, until they decided they were an "old-time" team after moving to an outdoor stadium (which in of itself was ridiculous). Add in two or three ill-advised alternates, and the identity is a mess. It wouldn't have been hard to incorporate the old with the new, but the Twins failed at that, big time.They took a look of success and tried to incorporate that into a look of failure. They went with nostalgia over success and wound up with neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohryan Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 The Indians are, without question, the MLB team in most need of an overhaul. Get off the fence about Chief Wahoo already...Either keep him or get rid of him, but please stop with the charade of hiding behind the popular "fan vote" before taking a stand on the subject. This whole era of "offering our fans an alternative" while still rolling out Wahoo is ridiculous. Real organizations don't do that. Real organizations are capable of handling unpopular fan backlash. This is pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubby34 Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 I would be in favor of two different yet distinct jerseys for the Indians- Home- Indians Script with Wahoo hat- blue and red. Wahoo on sleeveHome Alternate- navy Indians Script jersey with navy and red wahoo hat. Wahoo on sleeveRoad- current Cleveland grey with wahoo replaced on the sleeve with a baseball wearing wahoos headress. (Might not be the best, but could tie in all three jerseys slightly. Road Alt- cursive Cleveland script on navy jersey, baseball with wahoo headress. Both road jerseys will be worn with either a navy baseball in a headress cap (like the patch) or an all navy C cap (current block letter)Indians would have 4 jerseys and three caps. Keep wahoo for the home crowd, the baseball Indian for the road. Slowly work the road alt into the home schedule- Eventually push the baseball and headdress. Redesign Around that in 5 years. Keep wahoo in the mix with one hat for "heritage days" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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