BBTV Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, the admiral said: Las Vegas is everything people say is bad about America, all concentrated in one place. You spelled New Jersey wrong. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 At least New Jersey has public transportation and good pizza. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 17 minutes ago, the admiral said: At least New Jersey has public transportation and good pizza. About that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Really one of the best things that ever happened on this board. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 1 hour ago, bosrs1 said: Well keep in mind it would not have been a sublet if permanent. The Raiders were offered full partnership early on before the Niners were rejected and went it alone. So the implication of playing there still stands. Remember per the NFL bylaws teams can't move if there is a legitimate option in their home city. It's why St. Louis is suing and will likely win that suit as they presented a viable option that Kroenke didn't want to use. Levis was a viable option for the Raiders they conveniently ignored. I maintain an open air stadium IN THE SWAMP ON THE ING Mississippi River isn't nearly as viable a football venue as St Louis likes to pretend it is. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Is there any precedent to teams playing in literally the same stadium in the same city (like Santa Clara) but each being based in other cities and named for those cities? Having both an Oakland team and a SF team playing in Santa Clara makes my brain a splode. The Raiders should just change their name in that case, esp since Oakland is suing them. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 They should just pull the logos off of their helmets and play for a year as the Rogue Raiders or something. They already have plain enough uniforms. On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimball Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 20 minutes ago, BringBackTheVet said: The Raiders should just change their name in that case, esp since Oakland is suing them. If Oakland was guaranteed a franchise like Cleveland was after they left then I'd say ... yes, have them rebrand. But, I don't see the NFL expanding into an old market, let alone one already shared with another NFL team. Relocation? Really the only team I could see on the move would be MAYBE the Jaguars? "I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific." Lily Tomlin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosrs1 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 12 minutes ago, BringBackTheVet said: Is there any precedent to teams playing in literally the same stadium in the same city (like Santa Clara) but each being based in other cities and named for those cities? Having both an Oakland team and a SF team playing in Santa Clara makes my brain a splode. The Raiders should just change their name in that case, esp since Oakland is suing them. I mean most of the scenarios involving the Raiders next year are mind blowing. A. They stay in Oakland and get gouged for a portion of the money Oakland is hoping to recoup in the lawsuit (and essentially fund the suit against them and the NFL) B. They move to Santa Clara for a year, prove they should have been there all along, and we get the weird two teams with different cities names playing in a third city thing. C. They move to San Diego, force the Chargers to play an away game at a venue and city they abandoned only two years ago and prove San Diego is a better NFL town than Carson. D. They move to San Antonio, play 1200 miles from their nearest fans E. Give in and move to Vegas early to play in a venue that is ill equipped and botch the initial entry to their new market. F. Move to London for a year, which is just whacky on its face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMU Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 46 minutes ago, BringBackTheVet said: Is there any precedent to teams playing in literally the same stadium in the same city (like Santa Clara) but each being based in other cities and named for those cities? Having both an Oakland team and a SF team playing in Santa Clara makes my brain a splode. The Raiders should just change their name in that case, esp since Oakland is suing them. It's a thing in Aussie Rules. Four teams (Melbourne, Richmond, Collingwood, Hawthorn) all play at the Melbourne Cricket Ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 1 hour ago, the admiral said: Really one of the best things that ever happened on this board. I like the title of that YouTube clip: "Mets fan rages." If they only knew. And then he got to be on television with A-Rod! 1 hour ago, the admiral said: Las Vegas is everything people say is bad about America, all concentrated in one place. Too much food, too much wasted money, too many wasted resources, irresponsible indifference to the changing climate around it, and, in the last year, a major gun massacre. It gets more and more true. Vegas is the pits. I wish Summer League were held elsewhere. 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camden Crazy Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 4 hours ago, Bucfan56 said: Vegas is trash. Let me guess, Vegas is also to blame for Sacramento not getting an MLS team too, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 2 hours ago, kimball said: If Oakland was guaranteed a franchise like Cleveland was after they left then I'd say ... yes, have them rebrand. But, I don't see the NFL expanding into an old market, let alone one already shared with another NFL team. No, I meant change the "Oakland" part of their name. Just be the Raiders. They're too big to be tied down to only one city. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 9 minutes ago, Camden Crazy said: Let me guess, Vegas is also to blame for Sacramento not getting an MLS team too, right? No, Vegas is just the most garbage city on a long list of garbage cities. Their USL club is actually pretty cool. I’m actually kinda sad for them, being stuck in the world’s largest trash can, after all. They deserve better. On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimball Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 1 hour ago, BringBackTheVet said: No, I meant change the "Oakland" part of their name. Just be the Raiders. They're too big to be tied down to only one city. Gotcha. I could see that working with them. "I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific." Lily Tomlin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo_prankster Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 4 hours ago, bosrs1 said: I mean most of the scenarios involving the Raiders next year are mind blowing. A. They stay in Oakland and get gouged for a portion of the money Oakland is hoping to recoup in the lawsuit (and essentially fund the suit against them and the NFL) B. They move to Santa Clara for a year, prove they should have been there all along, and we get the weird two teams with different cities names playing in a third city thing. C. They move to San Diego, force the Chargers to play an away game at a venue and city they abandoned only two years ago and prove San Diego is a better NFL town than Carson. D. They move to San Antonio, play 1200 miles from their nearest fans E. Give in and move to Vegas early to play in a venue that is ill equipped and botch the initial entry to their new market. F. Move to London for a year, which is just whacky on its face. If option C is used, it will reinforce the fact that the Raiders were more popular than the Chargers ever were in San Diego. The Fictional Story of Austus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauly Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 Raiders should play their 3 division games in Reno,Nevada.4 games in Santa Clara and 1 in Mexico City or London. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosrs1 Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 21 hours ago, neo_prankster said: If option C is used, it will reinforce the fact that the Raiders were more popular than the Chargers ever were in San Diego. Won’t agree with that. The Chargers were very popular in San Diego when they were a San Diego team. Their lack of support now that they’re not representing San Diego is not indicative of anything from 5-10 years ago before the Dolts started agitating to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 On 12/28/2018 at 10:13 AM, bosrs1 said: Remember per the NFL bylaws teams can't move if there is a legitimate option in their home city. It's why St. Louis is suing and will likely win that suit as they presented a viable option that Kroenke didn't want to use. Once St. Louis defaulted on the Rams’ lease, nothing else mattered. They lost any hope of forcing the team to stay in town, no matter how much Goodell tried to help the city behind the scenes. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wings Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 St. Louis will have another team in about 12 years once the Jags move there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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