The_Admiral Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I think Ryan is a hell of a coach and would have loved his hire, but we both know that you would have derided the hire by saying it was short-sighted and an attempt to appeal the "meatball" fans who fondle themselves over hard-nosed defense. I wanted Rex Ryan because he represented the sharpest right turn from Trestman and his touchy-feely doormat crap. And you guys know how much I like Rex Ryan! ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOldRoman Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Then I had you pegged wrong, and I apologize. I knew you liked the comical character Ryan is, but wouldn't have figured you liked him as a coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Eh, he seems to be a known quantity as a good coach. The Bears could do much worse, seeing as they just did for the last two years. He's also a strong personality, which is why the McCaskeys didn't even want him to be interviewed. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCarp1231 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Ravens and Cowboys coaching staffs have been named as the teams who will coach in the pro bowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CS85 Posted January 14, 2015 Author Share Posted January 14, 2015 I would've liked Ryan merely as a prospective challenger to Quennevile's "Swearing King of Chicago Sports" throne. Quote "You are nothing more than a small cancer on this message board. You are not entertaining, you are a complete joke." twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Eh, he seems to be a known quantity as a good coach. The Bears could do much worse, seeing as they just did for the last two years. He's also a strong personality, which is why the McCaskeys didn't even want him to be interviewed.Is he known to be a good head coach? Don't get me wrong - no son of Buddy Ryan is any less than awesome in my eyes - but didn't he kind of let the whole thing fall apart in NY? "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramerica Industries Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Rex Ryan's biggest failing in NY was with the offensive coordinators that he hired. The fact that the roster disintegrated around him was due in part to the horrendous cap situation they were in towards the end of Tannenbaum's tenure there, and then coupled with the fact that Idzik, while cleaning up the financial mess, basically did everything to steer clear of the free agent market. Idzik was trying to bring more of a Green Bay/Seattle type approach to the Jets, which is basically to build entirely through the draft and then use free agency to find some free agent squeezes or reclamation projects, and such, and that didn't really work out. Worst of all, Ryan wasn't Idzik's choice for a head coach but one of the conditions for his hire was to keep Ryan as the head coach when he first came in, so there was always something of a dysfunctional relationship there. In the right situation, Ryan is an excellent head coach. Problem is he's now in Buffalo, a team with a ready-made defense, but they might have a worse QB situation than the Jets did, and worse than that is that the Bills don't have a first round pick until 2016. Unless E.J. Manuel suddenly figures something out (hah!), the Bills are boned at the QB position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigEd76 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Todd Bowles is the new Jets head coach....4-yr deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 If they "mutually parted ways", why is John Elway talking about how disappointed he was in John Fox and why he let him go? Furthering the notion that "mutually parted ways" is the new "you're fired".At least Elway could have wished him well in his future endeavors.http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12162308/john-elway-denver-broncos-says-poor-finishes-led-john-fox-departure-hopes-peyton-manning-returns "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOldRoman Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Rex Ryan's biggest failing in NY was with the offensive coordinators that he hired. The fact that the roster disintegrated around him was due in part to the horrendous cap situation they were in towards the end of Tannenbaum's tenure there, and then coupled with the fact that Idzik, while cleaning up the financial mess, basically did everything to steer clear of the free agent market. Idzik was trying to bring more of a Green Bay/Seattle type approach to the Jets, which is basically to build entirely through the draft and then use free agency to find some free agent squeezes or reclamation projects, and such, and that didn't really work out. Worst of all, Ryan wasn't Idzik's choice for a head coach but one of the conditions for his hire was to keep Ryan as the head coach when he first came in, so there was always something of a dysfunctional relationship there. In the right situation, Ryan is an excellent head coach. Problem is he's now in Buffalo, a team with a ready-made defense, but they might have a worse QB situation than the Jets did, and worse than that is that the Bills don't have a first round pick until 2016. Unless E.J. Manuel suddenly figures something out (hah!), the Bills are boned at the QB position.I was talking with a Jets fan all this season about Ryan, when it became clear Ryan would end up taking the fall for the Jets awfulness. This guy (who's a smart football guy) puts like 99% of the blame on the front office. The team this past year had no talent at all. There were several times the Jets passed on someone Ryan specifically asked for the draft a flop. Most notably, he was desperately pleading with the Jets to trade up to grab Russell Wilson. That S.O.B. is one hell of a defensive coach, and I think the Jets front office was such a dumpster fire, it's hard to blame him for the team disintegrating. I wished the Bears could have gotten him.I hadn't heard of the team tuning him out. Sometimes if a loud, abrasive coach sticks around too long without winning, the team can start ignoring him. Maybe it did happen, I don't know. But from my early impressions of Rex when they were winning, he has a hell of a presence and the players would run through walls for him. As I read someone say, coaches need to have a presence. They don't need to be "rah rah," because that stuff can get old, but they have to have a presence that demands respect of the locker room. Lovie Smith, despite being quiet and rarely getting angry, had that presence and was fully respected by his players (and that's not saying he was a good coach). Marc Trestman was quiet, and he clearly had no respect from his players. He didn't crack down on anything and just said, "I don't have to police them. These are grown men." Well, when nobody respects you they'll do what they want and not worry about getting in trouble or disappointing you.As for the Bills, their situation is similar to the Jets, sure. The difference is that the Bills are stacked with defensive talent, whereas Ryan was coaching a bunch of lumps this year. Also, the Bills have some good talent on offense outside of the QB. The Jets have nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sport Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I think a lot of Rex Ryan. He won four road playoff games with Mark Sanchez, fercryinoutloud!That the talent on the field fell apart wasn't his fault. I wish the Bengals had fired Marvin Lewis and hired him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexter Morgan Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Rex Ryan is a clown. He really has no business being a head coach, he's a defensive coordinator who completely divorces himself from his teams offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CS85 Posted January 14, 2015 Author Share Posted January 14, 2015 How do Raiders fans feel about Del Rio? Quote "You are nothing more than a small cancer on this message board. You are not entertaining, you are a complete joke." twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I'm glad the Bears are going to sign John Fox. It's a huge leap for them to commit to such a proven commodity at head coach. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 How do Raiders fans feel about Del Rio?I always thought it was strange that it took him so long to get another head coaching gig after his time in Jacksonville. He seemed to do a pretty good job there.I think it's a good hire. He's got the defensive knowledge to get the best outta guys like Mack and Justin Tuck.Best part about this hire, though? He's a Castro Valley native (same as me), which is about five minutes from the Coliseum. On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 This will sound snarky, but I think this year's crop of NFL coaching retread hires is an improvement on previous year's crops of retreads. There are no Chain Gaileyesque guys yet, which is pretty inspiring. Del Rio, Fox and Ryan all seem like guys who know what they're doing and finished up their prior jobs in bad situations. 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOldRoman Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 How do Raiders fans feel about Del Rio?Not a Raiders fan, but Meh. Four years ago, I would have said "Del Rio will with the Super Bowl. It is his... destiny!" But now, whenever I hear of Del Rio, I think of Matt Foley lecturing a Hispanic family about drug use. "VIVO EN EL VAN... DELANTE DEL RIO!" "Uh, we speak English." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CS85 Posted January 14, 2015 Author Share Posted January 14, 2015 How do Raiders fans feel about Del Rio?I always thought it was strange that it took him so long to get another head coaching gig after his time in Jacksonville. He seemed to do a pretty good job there.I think it's a good hire. He's got the defensive knowledge to get the best outta guys like Mack and Justin Tuck.Best part about this hire, though? He's a Castro Valley native (same as me), which is about five minutes from the Coliseum.Del Rio grew up a Raiders fan and his family are Raiders STHs, I understand. Also the 49ers promoted their DL coach to HC. Huh. Quote "You are nothing more than a small cancer on this message board. You are not entertaining, you are a complete joke." twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 How do Raiders fans feel about Del Rio?Del Rio may have a difficult time hiring assistants since he loved to fire them while in Jacksonville. In 8+ seasons, he had 4 defensive coordinators and 3 offensive coordinators. One writer counted that he fired 25 assistants in his tenure.Plus, at the time of his firing, which coincided with the sale of the team to Shad Kahn, CBS Sports writer Pete Prisco, who is based in Jacksonville wrote the following:Del Rio's wasn't liked inside the building the past couple of years, and there were many inside who felt once he got paid his big contract he lost the zest for being a head coach.According to sources, Del Rio was coming into the office this year at around 9 a.m. most days and leaving early.That rubbed his staff the wrong way. It rubbed the front office the wrong way.It even became a bit of a joke inside the building as the time he entered the building was noted some days by the staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 How do Raiders fans feel about Del Rio?I always thought it was strange that it took him so long to get another head coaching gig after his time in Jacksonville. He seemed to do a pretty good job there.I think it's a good hire. He's got the defensive knowledge to get the best outta guys like Mack and Justin Tuck.Best part about this hire, though? He's a Castro Valley native (same as me), which is about five minutes from the Coliseum.Del Rio grew up a Raiders fan and his family are Raiders STHs, I understand. Also the 49ers promoted their DL coach to HC. Huh.Tomsula has previously been a HC in the world league and interviewed in the past with a few teams, including the Vikings last season.Not much of a surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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