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The Giants jersey is sick! But I have to believe that Yomiuri would try to block this design. The team name for the Yomiuri Giants is 読売ジャイアンツ (Yomiuri Jaiantsu), but they're so much more commonly referred to as "巨人" (Kyojin), and ジャイアンツ is generally used for the San Francisco Giants.

 

(Really, what Yomiuri should do is sell an official 巨人 jersey before San Francisco does it!)

 

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I'm not sure how international copyright and trademark law works - how would they block it?

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13 hours ago, Gothamite said:

I'm not sure how international copyright and trademark law works - how would they block it?

 

I do think there would be an agreement between the two for legal purposes and this has all been worked out. I just don't see how Yomiuri would have any grounds to sue the MLB team or complain, since they took their look and name from the MLB team.

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On 3/12/2016 at 11:15 PM, MNtwins3 said:

Anybody know what this hat will be used for? BP? Games? Spring training and I'm just not paying attention?

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It's the Spring Training and BP cap but since it's without the Spring patch it's more specifically the BP cap, with the Spring cap in the bottom right corner of the pic u posted. When and how it gets used in reality is anyone's guess though.

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On 3/10/2016 at 1:28 PM, jsp34 said:

 

As a Korean myself, I speak Korean fluently and know how to read some Japanese.

 

the Cubs one says カブス (Ka Bu Su), using katakana writing system which is used for foreign words.

Dodgers one says 다저스 (Da Jeo Seu) & Mets one says 메츠 (Me Cheu) which are rough translations more so what Koreans would call the teams since we don't call teams by what they would really be translated to, for example Chicago Cubs in Korean would roughly be translated to 시카고 컵스 (Shi Ka Go Kub Seu) but a Cub in actual Korean would be 새끼 곰 (saekki gom) or 애기 곰 (aegi gom). 

 

Phillies フイリーズ (Fu i ri i zu)

Astros アストロス (A su to ro su)

Royals ロイヤルズ (Ro i ya ru zu)

 

Thank you for the explanation.  My son is studying Japanese in middle school.  This sounds like some of what he has taught me (or at least tried to teach me) regarding katakana.

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I think the Rays sunburst logo looks a lot better with that Blue outline around it.  The plain yellow sunburst is crappy.

 

 

 

 

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Question I've always had about the Rays sunburst... why does the white middle portion have that awkward cut off portion on the left side? The rest of the white section has a zig zag jagged line around it but in those upper left 3 "rays" the white has a really random curve to it. Why? Does that mean something? Is that section the sun itself and the other four larger "rays" are the light bursting away from the sun? I dunno but has anyone ever thought about this or is it just me? That's bothered me since day one.

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I assume to give it some dimension like multiple bursts of light reflecting off of something which in the Rays wordmark is the interior of the R. In any case it's a bad logo and shouldn't be the only identifier on a jersey and hat (even if it's just for spring training). 

 

That'd be like the Reds using only the mustache in my signature as a hat and jersey logo. 

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34 minutes ago, Zee-Row said:

I think the Rays sunburst logo looks a lot better with that Blue outline around it.  The plain yellow sunburst is crappy.

 

 

 

 

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Every time I see this I think of a generic baseball jersey you would find in the kid's department of Target. Put it right up there with the London Olympics logo as a head scratching logo that amazingly made it to fruition. Crazy.

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I actually prefer the manta ray logo but it seems Rays management wants to slowly move away from it.

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The more I see of that sunburst logo, the more I struggle to think of a logo that's ever been any worse. It's Buffaslug levels of bad, but at least the Buffaslug conveyed something that didn't need to be constantly explained to every casual/non fan. 

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Whoa - let's not say things we can't take back.  It's not Buffaslug bad - mostly because nothing is Buffaslug bad, but also because it's not designed to be the single identifying mark of the franchise.  

 

Now they drop the Times New Roman and go with the "glint" or whatever the F it's called on both the caps and jersey and make it the primary logo without any text?  OK, then we can start having the Buffaslug discussion.

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Fair enough. I still stand by my opinion that it's the worst logo I've yet seen, but I can see your point. 

 

 

In other news, while watching the Giants A's Spring Training game tonight, the A's just announced a T shirt giveaway for their Starting pitcher Sonny Gray's fan club, the "Sonny Siders". 

 

Now, is it just me, or is that logo (while not an EXACT match) a little uncomfortably close to the new MLS logo? 

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Seems kind of like bad form (and TOTALLY an A's move) to "take heavy inspiration" from a smaller league. Even if it is only for a promotional T shirt. 

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The sunburst isn't "that" bad... it's just too abstract that most won't see it and know what it is or what it means. Then again, it's not the primary logo at all. It can work just fine for what it is, a BP logo. I think, color wise, it looks beautiful against the columbia blue background.

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http://news.sportslogos.net/2016/03/14/seattle-mariners-wear-two-different-uniforms-during-spring-training-game/

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More proof that NOB means professional look and NNOB means "sorry we don't have a jersey for you, just borrow this leftover one from last year even though it's a completely different color and design as this year's jersey." How can anyone feel NNOB is the more professional look after this debacle?

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38 minutes ago, SilverBullet1929 said:

http://news.sportslogos.net/2016/03/14/seattle-mariners-wear-two-different-uniforms-during-spring-training-game/

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More proof that NOB means professional look and NNOB means "sorry we don't have a jersey for you, just borrow this leftover one from last year even though it's a completely different color and design as this year's jersey." How can anyone feel NNOB is the more professional look after this debacle?

 

This is how:

 

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NNOB is clean, professional, and worked just fine for many years. It shows you are part of a team and not just an individual who happens to be playing on one. NOB clutters and cheapens classic uniforms when done poorly (i.e. 95% of the time). It just screams cheap, beer league customized replica to me. They might as well just say "#1 DAD" or "Joe's Plumbing."

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So the Mariners players in the above pic in the navy NNOB hand-me-down jerseys are "part of the team" and the players in the teal NOB jerseys are individuals who aren't part of the team even though the jersey was specifically made for them?

 

I know I'm debating about a spring training mishap and yes Hank Aaron and others are classic NNOB examples but I think the point still stands.

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I think it's the other way around. 

 

 

EDIT: Ahh, nevermind. I see what you meant there. Sorry, I'm dense :P 

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5 hours ago, SilverBullet1929 said:

http://news.sportslogos.net/2016/03/14/seattle-mariners-wear-two-different-uniforms-during-spring-training-game/

Mariners two uniforms f

More proof that NOB means professional look and NNOB means "sorry we don't have a jersey for you, just borrow this leftover one from last year even though it's a completely different color and design as this year's jersey." How can anyone feel NNOB is the more professional look after this debacle?

 

2 hours ago, SilverBullet1929 said:

So the Mariners players in the above pic in the navy NNOB hand-me-down jerseys are "part of the team" and the players in the teal NOB jerseys are individuals who aren't part of the team even though the jersey was specifically made for them?

 

I know I'm debating about a spring training mishap and yes Hank Aaron and others are classic NNOB examples but I think the point still stands.

 

This doesn't argue the point at all.  The only reason this happened was because they were cheap and grabbed a bunch of old jerseys they could slap on these newbies.  You cannot under any circumstances compare this to a jersey that is made for a major league player.  The fact of the matter is that names come off as a classless celebration of self when compared to the cleanness of no name.

 

2 hours ago, Gehrig27 said:

NNOB is clean, professional, and worked just fine for many years. It shows you are part of a team and not just an individual who happens to be playing on one. NOB clutters and cheapens classic uniforms when done poorly (i.e. 95% of the time). It just screams cheap, beer league customized replica to me. They might as well just say "#1 DAD" or "Joe's Plumbing."

 

Exactly.  Any softball or little league team can get names printed up on a t-shirt.

 

And to add to the listing of classics...

 

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