CS85 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Oh, by all means, be as happy as you want about it. But don't expect me or any other non Cubs fans who lost out on those free agents to join you in that happiness. My team has won quite a bit in the last few years, yet the top free agents in the past two off seasons have looked at our nine figure offers with complete and total to indifference so they can go play Ferris Bullers Day Off with Joe and Theo.Just understand that people naysaying success or potential success is simply the nature of the game. You have two choices here. You can just kinda humbly accept it and realize that it's worth the success you'll have/hope to have, or you could be a Red Sox fan.Don't be a Red Sox fan.Humility isn't exactly one of my strong suits. Quote "You are nothing more than a small cancer on this message board. You are not entertaining, you are a complete joke." twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Ehh, I dunno. You seem to be pretty respectful when it comes to the Blackhawks. Granted, two different sides of the sports world there, but still. And just to show that I'm not just being a totally bitter jerk, I'm actually happy for the Cubs. They signed several guys that could've ended up with the Dodgers, too. I can definitely take some solace in that. Also, new blood being competitive. Nice! On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 I hope Heyward's power numbers go up at Wrigley. I remember him hitting the scene with Atlanta and everyone talking about how he was the perfect prototype of a baseball player, but now it turns out he doesn't hit for power all that well. Eek. Still, it'll be good to have his glove in center field with the big-hitting butchers in the corners. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almighty Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Washington offered him more money, more years, and IMO is a lot better of a fit for him, so he chooses the Cubs. Why?That's why.Pretty crappy lineup, heyward is overrated, the only good player they got is bryant.Nah, it will be another 100 years , i predict 2115 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubsFanBudMan Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 If the Cubs win and the Ricketts blow it all up Marlins-style, then Cubs fans might be able to be winners and keep their identity. That said, I bet a lot of the long-suffering Red Sox fans stayed humble. The loudest ones post-titles are probably different than the loudest pre-title -- and the former aren't humble by default. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninersdd Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Richard Sherman, err, Johnny Cueto to the Giants. BEAR DOWN ARIZONA!2013/14 Tanks Picks Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Uh oh. This could either be fantastic or another total disaster. Probably gonna be closer to disaster. At least it's something.Edit: Actually, the terms aren't bad. Six year deal worth $130 mil with a team opt out after 2 years AND a team option for a 7th year (if I'm reading that right). That could be a steal for the Giants and basically negates a lot of the risk. It's a Zito deal, for sure, but that opt out clause is huge. Cueto is a beast and has been quietly one of the best pitchers in the game since like 2011. It's been a risky endeavor for the Giants this off season, but I like the moves they've made. If it all clicks, this whole even year bulls**t may just continue!Edit 2: Actually, he has the opt out after two seasons. Oh well. NMM. On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcake Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Aaaaaaand the Dodgers' nightmare offseason gets worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CS85 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I still am thoroughly enjoying the anguish and shock from Cardinals fans that can't believe Heyward would take less money to sign with Chicago than to take more money to play in their baseball mecca. It fuels me. Quote "You are nothing more than a small cancer on this message board. You are not entertaining, you are a complete joke." twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Six Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 The Giants desperately needed starting potching, and they got it with maybe the two riskiest pitchers who were available. This is very different from what the Giants have been doing because they always could rely on the farm for another arm, but not so much snymore. Still need a left fielder, and they had a perfectly good Norichika sitting right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CS85 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 White Sox deal two top 5 & one top 15 prospects to the Dodgers/Reds in order to get 29-year old Todd Frazier. I have no idea where this falls into their "three year plan," but it seems sort of typically short-sighted. Quote "You are nothing more than a small cancer on this message board. You are not entertaining, you are a complete joke." twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOldRoman Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 No, the Sox dealt a fat fireballer who will likely be a reliever and a decent hitting 2B with multiple shoulder surgeries who plays awful defense. And Trayce Thompson was a nice player, but he was a career .260 minor league hitter they sold high on. He's probably never going to be more than a hustley 4th outfielder (especially with the Dodgers). Don't let their system ranking fool you because the system is relatively thin at the top (outside of the top 4). The Sox got this done without giving up any of the prospects or current major leaguers they wanted to hold on to. This is a great deal, and just as important, that likely means they're bringing in another outfielder.Also, you neglected to mention that 29-year old Todd Frazier is a power-hitting 3B who plays above average defense. He's a really good player. Of course, every smart move the Sox have made the last five years has pretty much turned to poop, so Frazier will probably hit .210 next year just because.As for Heyward, he didn't take less money to go to the Cubs. He has an opt-out after 2018. He'll get $27 million a year for the next three years, then hit the market again when he's 29. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CS85 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 No, the Sox dealt a fat fireballer who will likely be a reliever and a decent hitting 2B with multiple shoulder surgeries who plays awful defense. And Trayce Thompson was a nice player, but he was a career .260 minor league hitter they sold high on. Don't let their system ranking fool you because the system is relatively thin at the top (outside of the top 4). The Sox got this done without giving up any of the prospects or current major leaguers they wanted to hold on to. This is a great deal, and just as important, that likely means they're bringing in another outfielder.Also, you neglected to mention that 29-year old Todd Frazier is a power-hitting 3B who plays above average defense. He's a really good player. Of course, every smart move the Sox have made the last five years has pretty much turned to poop, so Frazier will probably hit .210 next year just because.As for Heyward, he didn't take less money to go to the Cubs. He has an opt-out after 2018. He'll get $27 million a year for the next three years, then hit the market again when he's 29.Frazier's the goods, I agree, and I admit I know nothing about their prospects, but it feels bizarre that the White Sox annually go balls-out with the checkbook or what-have-you. Seems like a precarious lifestyle, but I'm happy for the South-Siders having some excitement. It's been a quiet offseason. I'm well aware of Heyward's opt-outs, and frankly if the Cubs somehow collapse in 3 years, that kind of flexibility to void a contract that huge would benefit both sides. Cubs are getting 3 prime years of his career, and I will happily take that. Quote "You are nothing more than a small cancer on this message board. You are not entertaining, you are a complete joke." twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sport Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 The Reds are going to be really bad for a long time. Whether Frazier was on the roster in 2016 or not wasn't going to change that. We'll always have the 2015 Home Run Derby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOldRoman Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 There's no downside for the Cubs on that deal unless Heyward either destroys both knees or somehow becomes an awful player overnight, in which case he wouldn't exercise the opt-out. They've got plenty of payroll room then next thee years. It'll be interesting to see how much thing change the next few years now that teams are throwing around the opt-outs so often on these mega deals.The thing that's encouraging about the Sox is that they haven't sold off their top pieces the past few years. They've patched. I wasn't pleased with the Samardzija trade, but all they really gave up was a decent-hitting middle infielder who is awful defensively (a trend with us). They then signed LaRoche and Cabrera, and the three of them together ended up having the worst seasons of their career. There's no explanation for it, but the moves were the right ones to make. They can spend as much money as they want as long as they don't raid the farm every year. Now they're in heavy on Justin Upton and Cespedes. I'll take either one. In the past, we would have traded Fulmer, Rodon or Quintana for Puig or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CS85 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 There's no downside for the Cubs on that deal unless Heyward either destroys both knees or somehow becomes an awful player overnight, in which case he wouldn't exercise the opt-out. They've got plenty of payroll room then next thee years. It'll be interesting to see how much thing change the next few years now that teams are throwing around the opt-outs so often on these mega deals.The thing that's encouraging about the Sox is that they haven't sold off their top pieces the past few years. They've patched. I wasn't pleased with the Samardzija trade, but all they really gave up was a decent-hitting middle infielder who is awful defensively (a trend with us). They then signed LaRoche and Cabrera, and the three of them together ended up having the worst seasons of their career. There's no explanation for it, but the moves were the right ones to make. They can spend as much money as they want as long as they don't raid the farm every year. Now they're in heavy on Justin Upton and Cespedes. I'll take either one. In the past, we would have traded Fulmer, Rodon or Quintana for Puig or something like that.They're the right moves to make for the franchise's philosophy, definitely. They have talent and I hope for the sakes of all that they are an entertaining and enjoyable team in 2016. Quote "You are nothing more than a small cancer on this message board. You are not entertaining, you are a complete joke." twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanB06 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 If the Cubs win and the Ricketts blow it all up Marlins-style, then Cubs fans might be able to be winners and keep their identity.That said, I bet a lot of the long-suffering Red Sox fans stayed humble. The loudest ones post-titles are probably different than the loudest pre-title -- and the former aren't humble by default.Most of us did. Then 2007 and 2013 happened. And in the national eye, we all became as bad as the Yankees fans of the mid-to-late '90s. Sodboy13 said: As you watch more basketball, you will learn to appreciate the difference between "defense" and "couldn't find the rim with a pair of bloodhounds and a Garmin." meet the new page, not the same as the old page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almighty Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 I still am thoroughly enjoying the anguish and shock from Cardinals fans that can't believe Heyward would take less money to sign with Chicago than to take more money to play in their baseball mecca. It fuels me.Word is that he is a masochist, he loves losing , and he knows exactly from where he will get the most joyful pain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynasty Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 As a Reds fan, I'm already hoping Cincinnati's 2016 season comes to an end. There is just nothing to look forward to heading into next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmoehrin Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 I don't really get trading away Todd Frazier, but I do understand why a team that almost lost 100 games last year would think its a good idea.Same reason why they would think batting a .230 hitter who doesen't draw walks leadoff is good idea to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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