4_tattoos Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Somewhat off topic: Does anybody know if Vicis has plans on making helmets for hockey, lacrosse and motorsports with this shock absorption feature? Hotter Than July > Thriller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#ConceptLeagues Posted May 15, 2017 Author Share Posted May 15, 2017 13 hours ago, WavePunter said: Nothing should ever "push" elements around.. You treat vent holes, ear holes, snaps, rivets, flex panels, and any other feature like it's not even there.. The first thing I would do when I got my hands on a Vicis helmet is take off the facemask, chin strap, and any connection hardware, and apply the decal exactly where it normally would go.. In which case, it should present very few issues, if any.. If the result suggests you make one or two tiny adjustments, so be it.. But they shouldn't be noticeable. You can put hardware through the decal if need be, or trim the decal where it overlaps a vent hole, etc.. A helmet's design really shouldn't affect decal placement to any significant degree First off, I tip my hat to the work you guys do. It's an art form all to it's own. The thing is for me, I cringe when I see a decal that is cut for holes, etc. I know that you can't control that. You guys make those look good considering the different styles of helmets that you work with. As to the original thought, I'm just curious to see what the decals do after repeated compression from that crumple zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo_prankster Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Do you guys think teams like the Rams, Bengals and Chargers will be able to find a way to retain their current designs with this new model? The Fictional Story of Austus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandMooreArt Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 1 hour ago, neo_prankster said: Do you guys think teams like the Rams, Bengals and Chargers will be able to find a way to retain their current designs with this new model? they're probably in better shape. i believe both of those teams paint their art onto the helmet GRAPHIC ARTIST BEHANCE / MEDIUM / DRIBBBLE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upperV03 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 11 minutes ago, BrandMooreArt said: they're probably in better shape. i believe both of those teams paint their art onto the helmet The only one of those teams that has a painted design rather than decals is the Bengals, actually. Both the Chargers and Rams just use decals for the bolts and horns, respectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debo0775 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 31 minutes ago, BrandMooreArt said: they're probably in better shape. i believe both of those teams paint their art onto the helmet He'll, they might be worse. Decals can at least stretch. The paint on those shells is going to be shatter city come November in northern climates I'd imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WavePunter Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Again, I don't see any issues with the new helmets and decals.. Paint might produce more problems due to the hardening agents in some of the recipes creating brittle paint that could crack, but I see absolutely zero potential issues with decals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo_prankster Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Any word as to which specific colleges and NFL teams will be using this new model? The Fictional Story of Austus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 On 5/15/2017 at 4:55 AM, jgiff17 said: Well, good thing we don't have any more concussions today. I eagerly anticipate looking back on these new "solutions" with the same sad disdain. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 And speaking of which: Gisele Just Casually Revealed That Tom Brady Sustains Concussions All the Time The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Pinstripes Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 19 minutes ago, Gothamite said: Well, good thing we don't have any more concussions today. I eagerly anticipate looking back on these new "solutions" with the same sad disdain. Any helmet manufacturer promising the elimination of concussions is kidding themselves, there's no 100% way to prevent concussions in a violent sport like football. Advances in medical technology, along with better equipment, will help reduce the number. Also, coaches at all levels need to be smarter about pulling players out of games when the outcome has already been decided. Baseline tests have to improve as well. We'll be able to lower the number of concussions, but everyone needs to understand violence is the essence of football. And players who volunteer to play this game at the pro level will pay a price later, even if the brain isn't involved. The problem isn't the insurmountable one implied by bloggers on the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Just now, Gold Pinstripes said: We'll be able to lower the number of concussions, but everyone needs to understand violence is the essence of football. And players who volunteer to play this game at the pro level will pay a price later, even if the brain isn't involved. The problem isn't the insurmountable one implied by bloggers on the internet. No, it's not. Except that the league and manufacturers are denying the problem and selling bogus cures. Until they stop, we can't have an honest conversation and we can't actually address the problem. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 26 minutes ago, Gothamite said: And speaking of which: Gisele Just Casually Revealed That Tom Brady Sustains Concussions All the Time WTF? I thought teams had to report that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltjets21 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 45 minutes ago, Gothamite said: And speaking of which: Gisele Just Casually Revealed That Tom Brady Sustains Concussions All the Time If it is true it's because he wears a VSR-4. I use to wear one when I was little and any time you made contact you got dizzy. I wear a revo speed now and you really have to get rocked to feel it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Around the Horn said: WTF? I thought teams had to report that... Yes, they do. And the NFL is scrambling right now with the latest Patriots controversy. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSUViking Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 The NFL and NFLPA have already debunked this "story." Move along... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandMooreArt Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Gothamite said: No, it's not. Except that the league and manufacturers are denying the problem and selling bogus cures. Until they stop, we can't have an honest conversation and we can't actually address the problem. exactly. for the sake of the players, they need to know the risks they are taking. right now, it's cloudy at best. most think "well, i might have a few concussions in my career, but hopefully i won't have a knee injury". i'd take the blown knee any day. GRAPHIC ARTIST BEHANCE / MEDIUM / DRIBBBLE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 What angers me is that the league is helping make it cloudy. They keep advancing the narrative about concussions being the problem (concussions are not the problem), and then playing around with technology. As if that'll be their magic fix. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Pinstripes Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 2 hours ago, Gothamite said: No, it's not. Except that the league and manufacturers are denying the problem and selling bogus cures. Until they stop, we can't have an honest conversation and we can't actually address the problem. The league is addressing this issue, and this new helmet is an example of manufacturers stepping up. The honest conversation happened several years ago, and reducing head injuries is very doable. No need for the doom and gloom, but some bloggers won't advance the story at all. Objective people know football has more upside than downside, and violence is just the nature of the sport. And the international players are coming, I'm not worried about the future of the sport at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 17 hours ago, Gold Pinstripes said: Objective people know football has more upside than downside, and violence is just the nature of the sport. And the international players are coming, I'm not worried about the future of the sport at all. OK, if long term cognitive problems and white matter brain damage are considered "upsides". http://time.com/4289745/nfl-concussion-symptoms-treatment/ http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/215905052/nfl-concussion-problem-self-reporting-symptoms As I said on Page 1, every new helmet manufacturer is basically the next plaintiff in a future lawsuit if not from a former NFL player, but from some parent of a HS player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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