tp49 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 ...and to think I really just came to this thread to complain that a Yankees jersey with its single color, single layer number, and no name on the back costs $359. Ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 That’s the swoosh surcharge for you. You’re lucky it’s not more. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 At least with the Yankees, the jersey is theoretically good forever, since the number will likely get reused, and there's no NOB. For other teams, that's $350 for a jersey that may be relevant for one year. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltravisjr Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 22 hours ago, BringBackTheVet said: I hadn't thought of it, but since you mentioned it, should Dtt9s include the swoosh? IMO, yes, it should. It's an official part of the on-field uniform now. Yeah I can see the logic of how it should be included in the illustrations. If it is meant to document what exactly was worn, yes. I just can't get past the fact the swoosh effectively sits *over* the team's identity as an advertisement for a company, not to promote the team, but to promote itself. Not only that, but it doesn't distinguish the particular team since they all have it. Instead, if teams chose their own sponsors, I can see the value in documenting them on dtt9's. I would hate it, but it would make sense to me. But yeah, towards the goal of documenting 100% accurately, I see the point. I wonder, though, would there be any copyright issues with dtt9's rendering Nike's trademark? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Maybe it would be better if the swoosh was the same color for all teams, so that it would be clearly visually distinguishable? Like I said about the NBA patches, as much as I hate them, I kinda don't notice them much because my eyes can clearly tell that they're something superimposed on something else, rather than part of the jersey (exception being the Celtics, since their jerseys are only two color and the GE logo is one of them, so it does look like part of the jersey.) "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont care Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 I’d rather it look like it belongs being a team color and not being Nike orange or volt or what ever making it stick out that much more. I see it the opposite of you BBTV as I notice the ads much more on NBA jerseys than I do the swoosh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tp49 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 10 hours ago, Gothamite said: That’s the swoosh surcharge for you. You’re lucky it’s not more. I just snatched up a set of Majestic authentic Voit jerseys back at the end of October and paid $150 for both. Like BBTV said with the number it’s just whomever is wearing it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sec19Row53 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 4 hours ago, ltravisjr said: But yeah, towards the goal of documenting 100% accurately, I see the point. I wonder, though, would there be any copyright issues with dtt9's rendering Nike's trademark? As opposed to the trademarked team logo??? It's where I sit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin W. Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 11 hours ago, Gothamite said: That’s the swoosh surcharge for you. You’re lucky it’s not more. That’s similar to the cost of authentics sold by other retailers. That’s not unique to Nike. Mighty Ducks of Anaheim (CHL - 2018 Orr Cup Champions) Chicago Rivermen (UBA/WBL - 2014, 2015, 2017 Intercontinental Cup Champions) King's Own Hexham FC (BIP - 2022 Saint's Cup Champions) Portland Explorers (EFL - Elite Bowl XIX Champions) Real San Diego (UPL) Red Bull Seattle (ULL - 2018, 2019, 2020 Gait Cup Champions) Vancouver Huskies (CL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 41 minutes ago, Kevin W. said: That’s similar to the cost of authentics sold by other retailers. That’s not unique to Nike. The Brewers jerseys went up $120 this year. Made on the same templates from the same materials by the same craftspeople in the same Pennsylvania factory. But now, those people sew on a swoosh. And Nike adds the swoosh surcharge. Who cares if it’s unique? It’s unconscionable. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltravisjr Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 11 hours ago, Sec19Row53 said: As opposed to the trademarked team logo??? Yes, I actually wonder if there might be a difference. The uniform database is an online exhibit of the National Baseball Hall of Fame. I figure the HOF has an agreement of sorts with MLB for fair use of the identities of its teams. Nike isn't a team so I wonder if they need to be brought on board when the HOF decides to show its trademark. I don't see why they would object since its free advertising by way of a non-profit. Its probably not a big deal but I just wondered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 I imagine it’s in the contract that the swoosh is subject to whatever usage deals exist for the uniforms it appears on. these deals just become too complicated any other way. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lights Out Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 On 12/20/2019 at 11:19 PM, Gothamite said: Good. How is that good? The Angels don't play in LA. Pretending to be an LA team when they're located in Anaheim has always been silly. POTD: 2/4/12 3/4/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip88 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Lights Out said: How is that good? The Angels don't play in LA. Pretending to be an LA team when they're located in Anaheim has always been silly. For sure, Anaheim Angels sounds great, rolls of the tongue just Los Angeles Lakers. Los Angeles Angels is just wrong for so many reasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip88 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 On 12/22/2019 at 8:51 AM, tp49 said: ...and to think I really just came to this thread to complain that a Yankees jersey with its single color, single layer number, and no name on the back costs $359. Ridiculous. from what i can see on mlbshop, they now cost $300, up from $234 last season https://www.mlbshop.com/new-york-yankees/mens-new-york-yankees-gerrit-cole-nike-white/navy-home-2020-authentic-player-jersey/t-25227698+p-2563645405800+z-9-354346340?_ref=p-DLP:m-GRID:i-r1c1:po-4 https://www.mlbshop.com/new-york-yankees/mens-new-york-yankees-aaron-judge-majestic-home-white-authentic-collection-flex-base-player-jersey/t-58339832+p-248307087292+z-8-4197631171?_ref=p-DLP:m-GRID:i-r11c0:po-33 $70 for no reason, this is bull :censored: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaGlowin Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 I don't see the Anaheim Ducks having a problem reppin' their city and people not knowing where it is. They're not trying to claim LA. They're proud of being in the OC, they even made a logo for it. Yea it's two different sports but like I said it's all who your target is. Last updated 8/9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 The Golden State Angels. On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bucfan56 said: The Golden State Angels. Get out. https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Can there be a separate thread made somewhere for the sole purpose of debating whether Anaheim should be the identifier for any major-pro sports team so that other threads don’t get Anajacked or Angeljacked? "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 minute ago, BringBackTheVet said: Can there be a separate thread made somewhere for the sole purpose of debating whether Anaheim should be the identifier for any major-pro sports team so that other threads don’t get Anajacked or Angeljacked? You mean an "AnaHEIM-LICH MANEUVER"? https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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