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Charlotte Very Much in Play for 30th MLS Team

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1 hour ago, GDAWG said:

 

How much of a role did Didier Drogba play in the commercial success of Phoenix Rising?

I know last year he was the reason I started watching the USL. My first game was against Anaheim in the quarterfinals and I really did not know what to expect. He started off the scoring about 35 yards out on a set piece and the crowd let loose and kept it going for the rest of the game every time he touched the ball. It could be compared to a Quakes game (my first team being from San Jose and all) but condensed to 8,000 seats. It was pretty easy to go from skeptical to convinced that the MLS could be in Arizona. This year everyone was a little worried, but they put together an exciting team that draws a lot of attention (pretty sure at least 5 of their goals this year could make an ESPN top 10 list). In my opinion, they also have the most electric player in the USL, Solomon Asante.

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30 minutes ago, GDAWG said:

 

They didn't.  They rebranded.

 

That was kind of the point of my question.

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On June 27, 2019 at 1:28 PM, GDAWG said:

 

They didn't.  They rebranded.

Sorry, I wasn't sure if it was a Rochester Knighthawks situation where the team moved and another immediately replaced it. 

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On 6/27/2019 at 10:58 AM, nash61 said:

What blows my mind in all of this, is that in 23 years, the only market that has ever lost an MLS team for good is Tampa.

 

KC, Dallas, New York, San Jose, Miami, and LA have all gotten teams back. 

 

Aside from being wrong about KC, Dallas, and New York, your observation works with other sports as well. 

 

In recent decades, many of not most markets that previously lost a team got a new one: Baltimore, Los Angeles, St. Louis in football; Washington, Kansas City, Milwaukee in baseball, and Montreal is part of the current discussion; Winnipeg in hockey.

 

Having one team, even if you lose it, is a pathway to getting a new one. 

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On ‎6‎/‎27‎/‎2019 at 12:59 PM, leopard88 said:

 

That was kind of the point of my question.

 

I quoted the wrong post.

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11 minutes ago, Gothamite said:

 

Aside from being wrong about KC, Dallas, and New York, your observation works with other sports as well.

 

This just has to be confusion from rebranding, right? The Wiz becoming the Wizards and then Sporting KC, the Burn becoming FC Dallas, and MetroStars becoming Energy Drinks.

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You mean the Television Stations becoming the Energy Drinks - they had a corporate name from the start. 

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12 minutes ago, Gothamite said:

You mean the Television Stations becoming the Energy Drinks - they had a corporate name from the start. 

 

It was just less obvious because they weren't Metromedia FC or the MetromediaStars.

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Less obvious, to be sure. But still pretty odious (not to mention goofy-sounding). 

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Tepper is meeting with MLS next week to make his pitch. The whole article is pretty comprehensive and worth a read, but this is what I thought was interesting:

  • They are explicitly pushing an identity as a Carolina team, not a Charlotte team
  • They think they can draw between 40k and 60k fans per game (!!!)
  • Playing at BoA in “a more intimate soccer configuration to create an exciting game-day atmosphere for MLS home matches” and developing the area around it more

Aiming for the Atlanta/Seattle stratosphere in terms of attendance is, uh, ambitious. And I'm curious to see more details on how they would retrofit the stadium - I can't think of an example of a decades-old, football-only stadium being converted into a true dual-use football/soccer facility.

 

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15 minutes ago, Waffles said:

Tepper is meeting with MLS next week to make his pitch. The whole article is pretty comprehensive and worth a read, but this is what I thought was interesting:

  • They are explicitly pushing an identity as a Carolina team, not a Charlotte team
  • They think they can draw between 40k and 60k fans per game (!!!)
  • Playing at BoA in “a more intimate soccer configuration to create an exciting game-day atmosphere for MLS home matches” and developing the area around it more

Aiming for the Atlanta/Seattle stratosphere in terms of attendance is, uh, ambitious. And I'm curious to see more details on how they would retrofit the stadium - I can't think of an example of a decades-old, football-only stadium being converted into a true dual-use football/soccer facility.

 

 

Yeah and I still think I'm going to play center field for the Giants some day. 

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34 minutes ago, Bucfan56 said:

 

Yeah and I still think I'm going to play center field for the Giants some day. 

 

Can I get your autograph now before you get famous?

 

But on topic, I don't have any problem with Charlotte getting an MLS team (so long as St. Louis gets one first), but 40k to 60k fans is just... wow.

 


 

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8 hours ago, Maroon said:

Can I get your autograph now before you get famous?

 

But on topic, I don't have any problem with Charlotte getting an MLS team (so long as St. Louis gets one first), but 40k to 60k fans is just... wow.

 

And so long as Sacramento gets one before both of them. 😁

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11 hours ago, Waffles said:

Tepper is meeting with MLS next week to make his pitch. The whole article is pretty comprehensive and worth a read, but this is what I thought was interesting:

  • They are explicitly pushing an identity as a Carolina team, not a Charlotte team
  • They think they can draw between 40k and 60k fans per game (!!!)
  • Playing at BoA in “a more intimate soccer configuration to create an exciting game-day atmosphere for MLS home matches” and developing the area around it more

Aiming for the Atlanta/Seattle stratosphere in terms of attendance is, uh, ambitious. And I'm curious to see more details on how they would retrofit the stadium - I can't think of an example of a decades-old, football-only stadium being converted into a true dual-use football/soccer facility.

 

While I think that 40-60,000 a game is a little excessive, I wouldn't be surprised if the number is closer to 30-40,000. Playing in downtown BoA Stadium would certainly help, with people showing up to the game, enticing others to do the same. As for the retrofitting plans, it could be like Seattle's, where there's a roof-like structure over the fans, making it louder. Either way, I'm very excited and hoping that this turns out well for Charlotte.

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4 hours ago, Wings said:

This guy thinks San Diego deserves an MLS team:

 

https://www.tiebreaker.com/san-diego-deserves-an-mls-team/

 

The thing about St. Louis and Sacramento having a “checkered past” when it comes to fan support is complete and total garbage. Republic fans Stan harder than any group I know, the RiverCats are always at the top for attendance and Merch sales numbers, and these people are STILL dumb/crazy enough to pull for the Kings! 

 

I will vouch for San Diego’s USL ownership group, though. Donovan is a schlub, but Warren Smith has the Midas touch when it comes to this kind of stuff. I’ve seen his work up close and personal and it’s fantastic. Him and Joe are the reason Sac Republic has such a huge following. 

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On 7/12/2019 at 7:05 PM, Gothamite said:

 

And so long as Sacramento gets one before both of them. 😁

 

Although my biased self can’t agree, I’m actually really excited for Sacramento. Definitely deserving of an MLS team and their fan support eclipses St Louis and a number of already existent MLS clubs. I was ecstatic when the MLS announcement avoided the two cities being in direct competition.

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As much as I would love SD to have an MLS team one day, Charlotte would be a good addition to the league.

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15 hours ago, neo_prankster said:

As much as I would love SD to have an MLS team one day, Charlotte would be a good addition to the league.

I certainly hope that MLS expands beyond 30, and both Charlotte & San Diego are included.

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