GDAWG Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, leopard88 said: Thumbs down to both. I don't know how fast steamboats actually traveled, but the last thing I think about when I see one is the boat flying down the river like a cigarette boat. The last thing this logo needs to do is try to emphasize speed. That's why I thought it was a speedboat at first since it was so tiny. I would expect though that it would be a modern upgrade of the old logo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopard88 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 14 minutes ago, GDAWG said: That's why I thought it was a speedboat at first since it was so tiny. I would expect though that it would be a modern upgrade of the old logo. Modern, yes. Upgrade, no. 1 Quote Most Liked Content of the Day -- February 15, 2017, August 21, 2017, August 22, 2017 ///// Proud Winner of the CCSLC Post of the Day Award -- April 8, 2008 Originator of the Upside Down Sarcasm Smilie -- November 1, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDAWG Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 hour ago, leopard88 said: Modern, yes. Upgrade, no. I was talking about modernizing and updating the logo and uniform Reggie White wore 40 years ago as the USFL has done with the others Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayMac Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 On 11/6/2022 at 2:45 PM, GDAWG said: That image is way too small, is it supposed to be a speed boat? On 11/6/2022 at 2:45 PM, GDAWG said: That image is way too small, is it supposed to be a speed boat? It's a pontoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tBBP Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Probably worth reminding what that original Showboats logo looked like: An anthromorphized...something...toting the rock. Looks like half whale half steamwheeler or either that big eater fish thing from Super Mario 3. The rest of that package: Whole lotta red going on...right along with the rest of the USFL. 1 Quote *Disclaimer: I am not an authoritative expert on stuff...I just do a lot of reading and research and keep in close connect with a bunch of people who are authoritative experts on stuff. || dribbble || Behance || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCarp1231 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Shame. Tampa Bay had a good thing going for identity. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 The USFL in the 2020's: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sec19Row53 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 3 hours ago, DCarp1231 said: Shame. Tampa Bay had a good thing going for identity. I thought their helmet logo was too weak on the current helmet shells. It got lost against the various vents and such. Quote It's where I sit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discrim Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 On 11/6/2022 at 1:53 PM, NYCdog said: How do you relocate a team that never actually played there? Easily...hit backspace on Tampa Bay, type in Memphis 2 7 Quote A strong mind gets high off success, a weak mind gets high off bull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosioux76 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 17 hours ago, tBBP said: Probably worth reminding what that original Showboats logo looked like: An anthromorphized...something...toting the rock. Looks like half whale half steamwheeler or either that big eater fish thing from Super Mario 3. The rest of that package: I could never tell if the Showboats helmet logo was supposed to be the paddle of a steamboat or a roulette wheel. I guess if it's a riverboat casino, it could be both. Regardless, I always found it to be one of the USFL's more underwhelming helmet designs. That wordmark, however, is really clever. I'd much rather see a helmet made to use that "S." 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopard88 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 20 hours ago, GDAWG said: I was talking about modernizing and updating the logo and uniform Reggie White wore 40 years ago as the USFL has done with the others That I could live with. I think there is a lot of potential with the original set. 19 hours ago, tBBP said: Probably worth reminding what that original Showboats logo looked like: An anthromorphized...something...toting the rock. Looks like half whale half steamwheeler or either that big eater fish thing from Super Mario 3. The rest of that package: Was the cartoon considered the primary? I remember that logo but don't remember seeing it get a lot of use. The half paddle wheel and the wordmark were used much more to my recollection. My assumption was that the cartoon was sort of the USFL equivalent of one of those NFL Huddles mascots geared toward kids. I hope my memory isn't faulty because it's a terrible logo for any other purpose. 5 Quote Most Liked Content of the Day -- February 15, 2017, August 21, 2017, August 22, 2017 ///// Proud Winner of the CCSLC Post of the Day Award -- April 8, 2008 Originator of the Upside Down Sarcasm Smilie -- November 1, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogoFan Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 hour ago, gosioux76 said: I could never tell if the Showboats helmet logo was supposed to be the paddle of a steamboat or a roulette wheel. I guess if it's a riverboat casino, it could be both. Regardless, I always found it to be one of the USFL's more underwhelming helmet designs. That wordmark, however, is really clever. I'd much rather see a helmet made to use that "S." Same here on the old logo. I always took that it was supposed to be the paddle but could never figure out why it was designed the way it was as I've never seen a paddle that looked like that. For some reason, it makes me think of a carnival. That "S" logo is sharp...it inspired a re-design for a project I was working on prior to the USFL coming back was announced. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Survival79 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 19 hours ago, tBBP said: Probably worth reminding what that original Showboats logo looked like According to the mothership, it was an alternate logo. I'm not gonna lie, I kinda like everything about all of this. 1 Quote "If things have gone wrong, I'm talking to myself, and you've got a wet towel wrapped around your head." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tBBP Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 3 hours ago, Survival79 said: According to the mothership, it was an alternate logo. I'm not gonna lie, I kinda like everything about all of this. I do, too...in the right hands, that'd be ripe for an awesome update. (Shoot I may just take a crack at that myself...) 1 Quote *Disclaimer: I am not an authoritative expert on stuff...I just do a lot of reading and research and keep in close connect with a bunch of people who are authoritative experts on stuff. || dribbble || Behance || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raz Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 The logo on the helmet represented the side paddle wheeler. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruhawk7975 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Agreed. If nothing else its a unique and distinctive brand identity for the USFL to build on and update. Plus they can somewhat mitigate the red issue by switching the main Jersey color to gray/silver and still look like it fitss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJWalker45 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 34 minutes ago, Cruhawk7975 said: Agreed. If nothing else its a unique and distinctive brand identity for the USFL to build on and update. Plus they can somewhat mitigate the red issue by switching the main Jersey color to gray/silver and still look like it fitss. Please no! It never looks good. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopard88 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 18 minutes ago, MJWalker45 said: Please no! It never looks good. The problem is it has to be extremely dark to avoid looking like a dirty white jersey (See Patriots silver alt). I don't there's really such a thing as "dark silver", so you're looking at grey or something like the Bucs' pewter jersey. Quote Most Liked Content of the Day -- February 15, 2017, August 21, 2017, August 22, 2017 ///// Proud Winner of the CCSLC Post of the Day Award -- April 8, 2008 Originator of the Upside Down Sarcasm Smilie -- November 1, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJWalker45 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, leopard88 said: The problem is it has to be extremely dark to avoid looking like a dirty white jersey (See Patriots silver alt). I don't there's really such a thing as "dark silver", so you're looking at grey or something like the Bucs' pewter jersey. Or that ugly thing Miami (OH) wore last night. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalErnst Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Those suppose to look like sweatpants ? Quote THE Xtreme Fantasy Football League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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