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16 minutes ago, DoctorWhom said:

A's getting a stadium in Vegas. 

Howard Terminal seems far, far closer than any potential stadium in Vegas for the A's situation at this point, though; unless you're suggesting that the A's move in with the Aviators at Las Vegas Ballpark and it's 10,000-person capacity.

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Stadium announcement is probably a development agreement between the A's and the city of Oakland. If what Will Carroll says is true, then it will be Angels and D'Backs.  It could also be the Rays, as the mayor of St. Petersburg says that an announcement will be made at the end of January to see who gets to develop the area around Tropicana Field.  

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is this Gregory Soto fellow any good?  Phillies gave away a couple of decent young players for him... hope it's worth it.

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Correa back to the Twins, six years $200 million 🤦🏼‍♂️

 

Giants fans (including me) to Farhan today

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On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said:
She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.)
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17 minutes ago, Dynasty said:

So I haven't been following the whole Correa debacle. Why was this such a big story? What was the issue with his physical?


He agreed to a record deal with the Giants, who ended up backing out of the deal once they saw the physical and got absolutely ROASTED for doing so. The thought was they just got cold feet on such a huge deal, because the Mets almost immediately swooped in and agreed to a slightly smaller deal with him. They then backed out once they saw the physical as well. So this is the third deal Correa has agreed to in one off season, and ended up basically in essence losing out on $150 million in money due to that physical. 
 

It’s a big deal because I don’t think that’s ever happened before. It also shows what a monumental scumbag Scott Boras is (which we already knew). 

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On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said:
She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.)
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32 minutes ago, FiddySicks said:

It also shows what a monumental scumbag Scott Boras is (which we already knew). 

 

I can understand in general why someone would think this of Scott Boras. But what particularly about this scenario makes him such a scumbag?

 

I'm not disputing it necessarily. I just feel like I must be missing something.  Is there some sense that he screwed over the Giants and Mets? 

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On Saturday the Rosie Reds (a Reds supporters group) held their annual luncheon at Great American Ball Park. Their keynote speaker was Phil Castellini (ya know, the guy who stuck his foot in his mouth on opening day last year saying "Where ya gonna go?") Well once again he spoke and its a hot mess.

 

Some highlights:

- He claimed that ownership runs the team like a non-profit organization.

-He called baseball "an industry in crisis" He lamented guaranteed contracts asking the group "is anyone here getting paid not to do their job?" He also cited economic disparity between franchises due to individual tv deals among other factors.

- He did a a slideshow with graphs. One slide revealed that their is a 75% increase since 2019 in teams not in contention for the playoffs on Opening Day, with criteria including teams listed as having a 25% chance or less of reaching the playoffs when the season begins., the Reds being one of those teams.  Another economic inequality was new rules that allowed teams to sell advertising patches on uniforms, explaining that the Reds received $5 million for their advertising space, while the Red Sox received $17 million

- He said the teams goal is "progress"

- He celebrated the teams farm system. noting the team had promising prospects who would one day become Reds- and then joked afterward that they would be ex-Reds saying "of course we're gonna lose them."

- He was unaware that the Rosie in Rosie Reds was actually an acronym (Rooters Organized to Stimulate Interest and Enthusiasm in the Reds) and asked if anyone in the group knew that, claiming he only just learned of it. The Rosie Reds are a philanthropic and social organization formed in 1964 amid rumors that then owner Bill DeWitt wanted to move the team to San Diego. It was founded as a womens group, but has been open to men since 1967.

 

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1 hour ago, Dilbert said:

the Reds received $5 million for their advertising space, while the Red Sox received $17 million

 

Is there a listing somewhere of which teams have sold ad space and to whom?  I think I've only seen the Padres and Red Sox so far.

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21 hours ago, Dilbert said:

On Saturday the Rosie Reds (a Reds supporters group) held their annual luncheon at Great American Ball Park. Their keynote speaker was Phil Castellini (ya know, the guy who stuck his foot in his mouth on opening day last year saying "Where ya gonna go?") Well once again he spoke and its a hot mess.

 

Some highlights:

- He claimed that ownership runs the team like a non-profit organization.

-He called baseball "an industry in crisis" He lamented guaranteed contracts asking the group "is anyone here getting paid not to do their job?" He also cited economic disparity between franchises due to individual tv deals among other factors.

- He did a a slideshow with graphs. One slide revealed that their is a 75% increase since 2019 in teams not in contention for the playoffs on Opening Day, with criteria including teams listed as having a 25% chance or less of reaching the playoffs when the season begins., the Reds being one of those teams.  Another economic inequality was new rules that allowed teams to sell advertising patches on uniforms, explaining that the Reds received $5 million for their advertising space, while the Red Sox received $17 million

- He said the teams goal is "progress"

- He celebrated the teams farm system. noting the team had promising prospects who would one day become Reds- and then joked afterward that they would be ex-Reds saying "of course we're gonna lose them."

- He was unaware that the Rosie in Rosie Reds was actually an acronym (Rooters Organized to Stimulate Interest and Enthusiasm in the Reds) and asked if anyone in the group knew that, claiming he only just learned of it. The Rosie Reds are a philanthropic and social organization formed in 1964 amid rumors that then owner Bill DeWitt wanted to move the team to San Diego. It was founded as a womens group, but has been open to men since 1967.

 

 

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Silver Spoon swings and misses again. This to me is actually worse than Opening Day last year because it means he hasn't learned anything. Nobody wants to hear the failson of a failson of a fruit tycoon go through a powerpoint presentation with a bunch of excuses about why it's not his fault he's run the Cincinnati Reds into the ground. The Rays, Cardinals, and Brewers never seem to have this much trouble. We want a powerpoint about how you're going to fix it and/or how you're going to sell the team to somebody interested in winning. :censored:ing rich kids, man. 

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I hate that a lot of these failson rich kid team GMs and owners are my age or younger.

 

It was easier to process malfeasance in sports ownership when it was gilded old men and not fellow millennials who are just winging it.

1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said:

and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags

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1 hour ago, Sport said:

Silver Spoon swings and misses again. This to me is actually worse than Opening Day last year because it means he hasn't learned anything. Nobody wants to hear the failson of a failson of a fruit tycoon go through a powerpoint presentation with a bunch of excuses about why it's not his fault he's run the Cincinnati Reds into the ground. The Rays, Cardinals, and Brewers never seem to have this much trouble. We want a powerpoint about how you're going to fix it and/or how you're going to sell the team to somebody interested in winning. :censored:ing rich kids, man. 

At the very least, you'd want ownership to at least send the signal that they have aspirations for success. The need to explain and rationalize failure so as to deflect blame is a baffling leadership strategy. 

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2 hours ago, gosioux76 said:

At the very least, you'd want ownership to at least send the signal that they have aspirations for success. The need to explain and rationalize failure so as to deflect blame is a baffling leadership strategy. 

 

This is the guy who on Opening Day a year ago dared fans not to show up and got indignant that we weren't supporting the team's most recent firesale. Then we didn't show up to games last season and his response to that message was this nonsense. I don't care why you think the team is bad, dude, and I don't have a lot of sympathy for someone who chose to buy a major league baseball team. All I care about is how you fix it. This tells me he's more clueless than we thought. We're talking about a man who's never dealt with pushback in his entire charmed life and is being confronted with his own uselessness for the first time. His grandfather started the company that made his father a billionaire. He's never done anything. The only thing Phil's ever done was swim out of his dad's bean bag. 

 

It just shows out of touch they are, which is why I want to be the Reds Director of Shutting the F*** Up. They run ideas by me like a powerpoint presentation of excuses about why the team stinks and then I tell them "No. Do not do that."

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1 hour ago, Sport said:

 

This is the guy who on Opening Day a year ago dared fans not to show up and got indignant that we weren't supporting the team's most recent firesale. Then we didn't show up to games last season and his response to that message was this nonsense. I don't care why you think the team is bad, dude, and I don't have a lot of sympathy for someone who chose to buy a major league baseball team. All I care about is how you fix it. This tells me he's more clueless than we thought. We're talking about a man who's never dealt with pushback in his entire charmed life and is being confronted with his own uselessness for the first time. His grandfather started the company that made his father a billionaire. He's never done anything. The only thing Phil's ever done was swim out of his dad's bean bag. 

 

It just shows out of touch they are, which is why I want to be the Reds Director of Shutting the F*** Up. They run ideas by me like a powerpoint presentation of excuses about why the team stinks and then I tell them "No. Do not do that."

 

In general, I tend to be more sympathetic to team owners than most, largely to counteract sports fans' often irrational sense of entitlement over how a private enterprise operates. But a fan, in this case, is still a customer, and the owner of any consumer-facing business should know better than to speak down to customers like this.

 

They should really send this guy to the same training seminars that fast-food franchise owners attend. 

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