NFL 2023 Changes

[Typhoon]

As a Broncos fan, I’m ready for a redesign. And I think it’s a layup what design to go with. Pictured below. Or some variation of this would be perfect. The shade of blue open for debate. But after the recent rebrands by Nike, I almost don’t want it to happen. Just leave it be. I don’t want a black Broncos jersey or giant DENVER across the home uni or orange to navy gradient. No thanks. 

 

credit to Moss Uniforms on Twitter 

 

 

[tBBP]

The problem with that horse-in-D logo—and I've seen this many times before—is that it'll face backwards on the left side of the helmet. 

[j'villejags]

1 hour ago, tBBP said:

The problem with that horse-in-D logo—and I've seen this many times before—is that it'll face backwards on the left side of the helmet. 

Hypothetically, couldn't they flip the horse inside the D logo for the helmet decal when it's on the left? Kinda like how the Ravens do it?

 

 

[MDGP]

21 minutes ago, j'villejags said:

Hypothetically, couldn't they flip the horse inside the D logo for the helmet decal when it's on the left? Kinda like how the Ravens do it?

 

 

 

I mean, the direction of the horse wasn't an issue for 30 years, so why should it be in issue now?

 

 

[DCarp1231]

This is why asymmetrical logos involving letters suck

[DCarp1231]

I mentioned this in the Cardinals thread, but I suppose it got lost in discussion-

 

The NFC West is the first division to have all 4 teams with new Nike uniforms. (SF minor adjustments count).

 

Broken down by division (changed in bold)-

 

AFC North

Ravens

Steelers

Bengals

Browns*

 

AFC East

Bills

Patriots

Jets

Dolphins*
 

AFC South

Texans

Colts

Titans

Jaguars*
 

AFC West

Broncos

Raiders

Chiefs

Chargers

 

NFC North

Packers

Bears

Vikings

Lions

 

NFC East

Cowboys

Eagles

Giants

Commanders

 

NFC South

Saints

Panthers

Falcons

Buccaneers*
 

NFC West

Seahawks

Rams

49ers

Cardinals

 

*- Denotes teams that underwent two uniform changes under Nike

 

• The AFC South has the next closest chance at getting all four with Houston’s rumored new set coming next offseason at the earliest.

[Around the Horn]

Do we think any of the teams with new alts would unveil them before the draft?

[Kiltman]

11 minutes ago, Around the Horn said:

Do we think any of the teams with new alts would unveil them before the draft?

Would think at least one of them will have it at a  their draft fan event.

[gothedistance]

45 minutes ago, DCarp1231 said:

I mentioned this in the Cardinals thread, but I suppose it got lost in discussion-

 

The NFC West is the first division to have all 4 teams with new Nike uniforms. (SF minor adjustments count).

 

Broken down by division (changed in bold)-

 

AFC North

Ravens

Steelers

Bengals

Browns*

 

AFC East

Bills

Patriots

Jets

Dolphins*
 

AFC South

Texans

Colts

Titans

Jaguars*
 

AFC West

Broncos

Raiders

Chiefs

Chargers

 

NFC North

Packers

Bears

Vikings

Lions

 

NFC East

Cowboys

Eagles

Giants

Commanders

 

NFC South

Saints

Panthers

Falcons

Buccaneers*
 

NFC West

Seahawks

Rams

49ers

Cardinals

 

*- Denotes teams that underwent two uniform changes under Nike

 

• The AFC South has the next closest chance at getting all four with Houston’s rumored new set coming next offseason at the earliest.

 

3 of the teams in the NFC West have a wordmark that isn't on the chest; Rams, Seahawks, and Cardinals white jersey.  All teams in the division still use a wordmark on their jerseys. The other divisions where all teams have a wordmark on their jersey is the AFC and NFC East, but in the NFC East the Cowboys' navy blue jersey has a wordmark on the chest but not the white jersey.

[Typhoon]

12 hours ago, j'villejags said:

Hypothetically, couldn't they flip the horse inside the D logo for the helmet decal when it's on the left? Kinda like how the Ravens do it?

 

 

 

Wow, of all the Broncos concepts I’ve seen, i don’t believe I’ve ever seen anyone flip the horse inside D logo. I actually really like that.

Regardless the point was I don’t trust Nike to not botch their look even worse. Unless they pull a “Tampa Bay” and just go right back to a complete design that worked. 

[Lights Out]

12 hours ago, MDGP said:

 

I mean, the direction of the horse wasn't an issue for 30 years, so why should it be in issue now?

 

 

 

It doesn't look as good as having the horse always face forward. Just because they got it wrong for 30 years doesn't mean they have to repeat their mistake in the future.

[MJWalker45]

17 hours ago, Around the Horn said:

Do we think any of the teams with new alts would unveil them before the draft?

No, not unless they've already been announced. We know what the Eagles and Buccaneers are doing, just waiting on them to officially unveil them on the players.

[WSU151]

7 hours ago, Lights Out said:

 

It doesn't look as good as having the horse always face forward. Just because they got it wrong for 30 years doesn't mean they have to repeat their mistake in the future.

 

It's not any different than these which don't seem to bother most people:

 

 

[BBTV]

The Carolina and old Broncos helmets look fine to me.  That Idaho (not sure the actual school) helmet looks bad because the horse is so prominent.  

 

With the Carolina and Denver helmets, the letter is where my eye goes, and the horse / gamecock are just kinda there.  With that Idaho logo, my eye is immediately drawn to the horse, which looks backwards.

 

So basically, I think any new Broncos logo that's based on a D will be fine without the horse needing to be reversed.

[FiddySicks]

I don’t think I’ll ever understand the love that old Broncos D horse logo gets. The D kinda just made the whole thing look awkward, and the rendering on the horse itself was ATROCIOUS. I get now that the horse is blowing air/snot out of its nose, but when I was a kid I absolutely did not understand what was happening there. I always thought it looked like someone was trying to tickle the horse with a feather. Now it looks like one of those weird S&M/bondage feathers someone is bothering the horse with. Not a good look. Especially considering that their current helmet logo is MILES better. I don’t like the Broncos at all, but their current helmet logo is one of the best helmet logos in the entire league. People really want to ditch it for that dumb, outdated D logo? Weird. 

[j'villejags]

12 minutes ago, FiddySicks said:

I don’t think I’ll ever understand the love that old Broncos D horse logo gets. The D kinda just made the whole thing look awkward, and the rendering on the horse itself was ATROCIOUS. I get now that the horse is blowing air/snot out of its nose, but when I was a kid I absolutely did not understand what was happening there. I always thought it looked like someone was trying to tickle the horse with a feather. Now it looks like one of those weird S&M/bondage feathers someone is bothering the horse with. Not a good look. Especially considering that their current helmet logo is MILES better. I don’t like the Broncos at all, but their current helmet logo is one of the best helmet logos in the entire league. People really want to ditch it for that dumb, outdated D logo? Weird. 

I think using the current logo on the old colors would work. 
 

That said, the old colors always reminded me of Elmer’s glue. Especially as a kid when I heard what the stuff used to be made of.  Traumatizing.

[WSU151]

1 hour ago, FiddySicks said:

I don’t think I’ll ever understand the love that old Broncos D horse logo gets. The D kinda just made the whole thing look awkward, and the rendering on the horse itself was ATROCIOUS. I get now that the horse is blowing air/snot out of its nose, but when I was a kid I absolutely did not understand what was happening there. I always thought it looked like someone was trying to tickle the horse with a feather. Now it looks like one of those weird S&M/bondage feathers someone is bothering the horse with. Not a good look. Especially considering that their current helmet logo is MILES better. I don’t like the Broncos at all, but their current helmet logo is one of the best helmet logos in the entire league. People really want to ditch it for that dumb, outdated D logo? Weird. 

 

A lot of pro logos could be rendered a lot better tbh but a lot of people probably prefer they aren’t. The ‘97 Bucs logo was pretty cool and then someone thought it could be rendered better and it lost all the charm. 

 

The 70s-90s logo was always one of my favorites and how it mirrors the horse on top of the scoreboard is pretty cool. 

[Cujo]

1 hour ago, FiddySicks said:

I don’t think I’ll ever understand the love that old Broncos D horse logo gets. The D kinda just made the whole thing look awkward, and the rendering on the horse itself was ATROCIOUS. I get now that the horse is blowing air/snot out of its nose, but when I was a kid I absolutely did not understand what was happening there. I always thought it looked like someone was trying to tickle the horse with a feather. Now it looks like one of those weird S&M/bondage feathers someone is bothering the horse with. Not a good look. Especially considering that their current helmet logo is MILES better. I don’t like the Broncos at all, but their current helmet logo is one of the best helmet logos in the entire league. People really want to ditch it for that dumb, outdated D logo? Weird. 

 

Oh, but it goes further than just aesthetics.

 

Growing up in Colorado in the 80s and 90s, the "D" logo evolved into a symbol of embarrassment. Broncos teams that were good, but in the end nobody wanted to remember. Squads laden with players (outside of Elway) who were good but not great. There came the Super Bowl 21 blowout. The Super Bowl 22 blowout. The Super Bowl 24 blowout. The cherry on top (in their final game in the "D") was after locking up home-field, crapping the bed vs the 2nd year expansion Jaguars. Now compound that with the introduction of the cyberhorse and immediately winning a Super Bowl that year. Then going nearly undefeated the following year and winning their second Supe. At the time, it almost felt like the "D" logo was holding the Broncos down. 

 

Denver fans who clamor for the throwback D are mostly 20-30somethings who weren't around during the Dan Reeves days. I also suppose, for many, winning 3 titles since makes it easer to forget all those Super Bowl failures.

[WSU151]

28 minutes ago, Cujo said:

 

Oh, but it goes further than just aesthetics.

 

Growing up in Colorado in the 80s and 90s, the "D" logo evolved into a symbol of embarrassment. Broncos teams that were good, but in the end nobody wanted to remember. Squads laden with players (outside of Elway) who were good but not great. There came the Super Bowl 21 blowout. The Super Bowl 22 blowout. The Super Bowl 24 blowout. The cherry on top (in their final game in the "D") was after locking up home-field, crapping the bed vs the 2nd year expansion Jaguars. Now compound that with the introduction of the cyberhorse and immediately winning a Super Bowl that year. Then going nearly undefeated the following year and winning their second Supe. At the time, it almost felt like the "D" logo was holding the Broncos down. 

 

Denver fans who clamor for the throwback D are mostly 20-30somethings who weren't around during the Dan Reeves days. I also suppose, for many, winning 3 titles since makes it easer to forget all those Super Bowl failures.

 

All my friends and I are over 40 and want to see the old uniforms come back. A lot of great memories on The Drive, The Fumble, the great comeback against Houston, the Orange Crush defense, Steve Atwater' s (HOF)  hit against Okoye, the Three Amigos, Tom Jackson (HOF), Simon Fletcher, Karl Mecklenberg, and the 95-96 teams that really built the foundation for the 97-98 teams, such as Terrell Davis's just incredible rookie year.  To only see the Orange Crush in terms of Super Bowl losses is a shame, and it's like only thinking about the Bills K-Gun or the VIkings' Purple People Eaters as only horrible Super Bowl losses. It's really not fair to the history of the era.  I, mean, if you only judge the '98 Vikings season based on the NFCC, you probably would hate the 90s Vikings set but I guarantee more people have fond memories of Cunningham-to-Moss just because they were crazy good. Thus, for most Broncos fans alive in the 70, 80s, and 90s, there were many successes outside of the Super Bowls.  

 

Right now the current set is nothing but QB failures and a carousel of head coaches. 

 

 

[Cujo]

7 minutes ago, WSU151 said:

Right now the current set is nothing but QB failures and a carousel of head coaches. 

 

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