Bearcats Posted April 3, 2006 Share Posted April 3, 2006 http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/02/nyregion...r=1&oref=slogin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBGKon Posted April 3, 2006 Share Posted April 3, 2006 sweeeeeeeeeeet, can't wait to see it for real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted April 3, 2006 Share Posted April 3, 2006 Looks like Shea + Yankee.If it gets built, it = one pissed off Steinbrenner. 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted April 3, 2006 Share Posted April 3, 2006 When does it get to a point when these "non-clone" ballparks all just essentially become the same park? Granted it may not have the indistinct shapes and dimensions of the fields of the 70s, but all these "retro modern" parks looks the same to me. Show me a park like Griffith's Stadium that had a 400 foot foul pole and a tree hanging over the fense in right field, and I'll show you something that isn't so utterly contrived. This stadium (much like many new parks of today) tries to hard. Ebbets Field's facade was great, but mainly because it WAS the corner of a city block. That's WHY it was shaped like that, and why it felt so cozy. It was a part of the landscape. I was never there myself, but I've heard the stories. This new park is giving a nod to it, but there's no purpose behind it, other than a simple nod. It's detached from its surrounding areas, and just looks like a generic park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted April 3, 2006 Share Posted April 3, 2006 Looks like Shea + Yankee.If it gets built, it = one pissed off Steinbrenner. Nah, because he's getting the same concessions and infrastructure $$ that the Mets are.I like this new park.Everything except the location. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griffin128 Posted April 3, 2006 Share Posted April 3, 2006 When does it get to a point when these "non-clone" ballparks all just essentially become the same park? Granted it may not have the indistinct shapes and dimensions of the fields of the 70s, but all these "retro modern" parks looks the same to me. Show me a park like Griffith's Stadium that had a 400 foot foul pole and a tree hanging over the fense in right field, and I'll show you something that isn't so utterly contrived. This stadium (much like many new parks of today) tries to hard. Ebbets Field's facade was great, but mainly because it WAS the corner of a city block. That's WHY it was shaped like that, and why it felt so cozy. It was a part of the landscape. I was never there myself, but I've heard the stories. This new park is giving a nod to it, but there's no purpose behind it, other than a simple nod. It's detached from its surrounding areas, and just looks like a generic park. Amen. This looks like Safeco and Coors and all the other new parks. I've been to Shea a hundred times and the area is nothing but an enormous park. This stadium is boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyvoodoo Posted April 3, 2006 Share Posted April 3, 2006 I like how they already have assigned the location for the 'Big Apple'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHLArenaGuide Posted April 3, 2006 Share Posted April 3, 2006 If they really built this in the same location as the current Shea (i.e. in jumbo jet land near LaGuardia) then it's going to suck almost as hard as Shea does now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernd Posted April 3, 2006 Share Posted April 3, 2006 If they really built this in the same location as the current Shea (i.e. in jumbo jet land near LaGuardia) then it's going to suck almost as hard as Shea does now.It's going to be right next to it, in the outfield parking lot.The new Shea looks just like the new Yankee Stadium, just with different colors and a different facade. Compare:and Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSU151 Posted April 3, 2006 Share Posted April 3, 2006 The new Shea looks just like the new Yankee Stadium No, they really don't look anything alike. The scoreboards are different, the outfield seating is different, the lighting mounts are different, the ad placements are different, etc., etc., etc. Other than all that, though, they're exactly the same Smart is believing half of what you hear. Genius is knowing which half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted April 3, 2006 Share Posted April 3, 2006 When does it get to a point when these "non-clone" ballparks all just essentially become the same park? Granted it may not have the indistinct shapes and dimensions of the fields of the 70s, but all these "retro modern" parks looks the same to me. Show me a park like Griffith's Stadium that had a 400 foot foul pole and a tree hanging over the fense in right field, and I'll show you something that isn't so utterly contrived. This stadium (much like many new parks of today) tries to hard. Ebbets Field's facade was great, but mainly because it WAS the corner of a city block. That's WHY it was shaped like that, and why it felt so cozy. It was a part of the landscape. I was never there myself, but I've heard the stories. This new park is giving a nod to it, but there's no purpose behind it, other than a simple nod. It's detached from its surrounding areas, and just looks like a generic park. Amen. This looks like Safeco and Coors and all the other new parks. I've been to Shea a hundred times and the area is nothing but an enormous park. This stadium is boring. Makes me love PNC Park even more.Even CBP looks totally different than the other parks you mentioned. I don't really care for the look, but it's different. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Clemente Posted April 3, 2006 Share Posted April 3, 2006 In the vein that Petco Park and (I think) Camden Yards does, they should find a skyscraper in NYC (I mean one of the giant ass skyscrapers, not you're piddly 20 story ones.) and the build the park around it, using it as an outfield wall. (And hell, you could use a floor of said skyscraper for team offices and indoor training facilities.) Then they'd have a cool outfield. (And they'd probably have to make the windows bulletproof to prevent the ball from crashing through, but I'd leave the cracks in them that may result...give it a homely charm.--Roger "Time?" Clemente. Follow me on Twitter if you care: @Animal_Clans.My opinion may or may not be the same as yours. The choice is up to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted April 3, 2006 Share Posted April 3, 2006 In the vein that Petco Park and (I think) Camden Yards does, they should find a skyscraper in NYC (I mean one of the giant ass skyscrapers, not you're piddly 20 story ones.) and the build the park around it, using it as an outfield wall. (And hell, you could use a floor of said skyscraper for team offices and indoor training facilities.) Then they'd have a cool outfield. (And they'd probably have to make the windows bulletproof to prevent the ball from crashing through, but I'd leave the cracks in them that may result...give it a homely charm.--Roger "Time?" Clemente. As truely rediculous as that sounds, good lord would that be an awesome ballpark. On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacker12 Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Actually, Shea II looks a lot like the pre-Steinbrenner Yankee Stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernd Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 The new Shea looks just like the new Yankee Stadium No, they really don't look anything alike. The scoreboards are different, the outfield seating is different, the lighting mounts are different, the ad placements are different, etc., etc., etc. Other than all that, though, they're exactly the same Lame. I'm talking about the architectural design and footprint and you're talking about ad placement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 The new Shea looks just like the new Yankee Stadium No, they really don't look anything alike. The scoreboards are different, the outfield seating is different, the lighting mounts are different, the ad placements are different, etc., etc., etc. Other than all that, though, they're exactly the same Lame. I'm talking about the architectural design and footprint and you're talking about ad placement. It's not about the ad placement. The two parks are completely different. The only thing they share is arches somewhere in the facade and an entrance behind home plate. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no97 Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 The new Shea looks just like the new Yankee Stadium No, they really don't look anything alike. The scoreboards are different, the outfield seating is different, the lighting mounts are different, the ad placements are different, etc., etc., etc. Other than all that, though, they're exactly the same Lame. I'm talking about the architectural design and footprint and you're talking about ad placement. It's not about the ad placement. The two parks are completely different. The only thing they share is arches somewhere in the facade and an entrance behind home plate. Sorry Bernd, but Gothamite and WSU151 are right - the entrance behind home plate's the only thing that's simelar. And I stress simelar, because they aren't the same... Shea II has no "grand entrance", while Yankee II has one...Other than that, just from the pics you posted, Yankee has four decks in right field, while Shea has one large bleacher; Yankee appears to have a large glass enclosed suite in center field, while Shea has none; Yankee is clad in limestone, while Shea is clad in red brick; Yankee got a covered upper deck, while Shea doesn't...And that's just from looking at two artist renderings...Moose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kom22 Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 The new Shea looks just like the new Yankee Stadium No, they really don't look anything alike. The scoreboards are different, the outfield seating is different, the lighting mounts are different, the ad placements are different, etc., etc., etc. Other than all that, though, they're exactly the same Lame. I'm talking about the architectural design and footprint and you're talking about ad placement. It's not about the ad placement. The two parks are completely different. The only thing they share is arches somewhere in the facade and an entrance behind home plate. Sorry Bernd, but Gothamite and WSU151 are right - the entrance behind home plate's the only thing that's simelar. And I stress simelar, because they aren't the same... Shea II has no "grand entrance", while Yankee II has one...Other than that, just from the pics you posted, Yankee has four decks in right field, while Shea has one large bleacher; Yankee appears to have a large glass enclosed suite in center field, while Shea has none; Yankee is clad in limestone, while Shea is clad in red brick; Yankee got a covered upper deck, while Shea doesn't...And that's just from looking at two artist renderings...Moose Actually, the glass in the outfield is probably an enclosed monument park. I can't see the yankees not putting the graveyard in left center field.And both parks are spectular. They took the feel of both parks and made them better. Both parks still reflect the originals while updating. Both get thumbs up. Now if only they moved Shea out of Flushing and into Brooklyn.kom22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSU151 Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 The new Shea looks just like the new Yankee Stadium No, they really don't look anything alike. The scoreboards are different, the outfield seating is different, the lighting mounts are different, the ad placements are different, etc., etc., etc. Other than all that, though, they're exactly the same Lame. I'm talking about the architectural design and footprint and you're talking about ad placement. Okay, fella. I guess the rest of my list is just there for s & g. You want to talk architecture? Notice how the Yankees have their arched windows in groups of three while the Mets don't. Notice how the footprint of the new Yankee stadium appears to be far more angular than the new Mets' park.Notice how the Yankees' arches change into regular panes of glass as you head to the outfield, from the outside, but the Mets' stadium shows little, to no, change in its' arches.Like Moose said, the buildings will be made of entirely different material, which is a part of architecture, believe it or not.Notice how the Mets plan uses far more exposed wrought iron steel than the new stadium in the Bronx, and have designed steel arches above the upper deck, something that isn't included in the new Yankee Stadium.These differences, plus the ones Moose, Gothamite, and I listed before, make the stadiums completely different from each other. Smart is believing half of what you hear. Genius is knowing which half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkrdevil Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 The new Shea looks just like the new Yankee Stadium No, they really don't look anything alike. The scoreboards are different, the outfield seating is different, the lighting mounts are different, the ad placements are different, etc., etc., etc. Other than all that, though, they're exactly the same Lame. I'm talking about the architectural design and footprint and you're talking about ad placement. It's not about the ad placement. The two parks are completely different. The only thing they share is arches somewhere in the facade and an entrance behind home plate. Sorry Bernd, but Gothamite and WSU151 are right - the entrance behind home plate's the only thing that's simelar. And I stress simelar, because they aren't the same... Shea II has no "grand entrance", while Yankee II has one...Other than that, just from the pics you posted, Yankee has four decks in right field, while Shea has one large bleacher; Yankee appears to have a large glass enclosed suite in center field, while Shea has none; Yankee is clad in limestone, while Shea is clad in red brick; Yankee got a covered upper deck, while Shea doesn't...And that's just from looking at two artist renderings...Moose Actually, the glass in the outfield is probably an enclosed monument park. I can't see the yankees not putting the graveyard in left center field.And both parks are spectular. They took the feel of both parks and made them better. Both parks still reflect the originals while updating. Both get thumbs up. Now if only they moved Shea out of Flushing and into Brooklyn.kom22 Monument Park would be below the Dark Glass Hitters back drop. The Glass enclosed in Centerfield would be a resturant I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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