"Official" 2007 College Football Thread

[infrared41]

Is anyone else horribly tired of hearing the term "BCS School"? i think that factor alone shows why college football's selection process is such an amazingly bad joke.

BCS simply means Big Cash School. It makes more sense when you look at it like that.

That's a stupid way of looking at it and actually it's untrue.

Well I thought it was pretty obvious that I was only referring to the football side of it, not to mention it was intended as humor, but thanks for calling me stupid anyway.

I didn't call you stupid. I said that statement was stupid.

Ohio State isn't even on the list you used yet they have one of the largest athletic budgets in the NCAA. The football team supplies the majority of that money. That's what I was talking about. So when I say Big Cash Schools I am talking about the BCS and football not the size of Harvard's endowment. I just assumed that in a sports forum there wouldn't be a need to distinguish between the two. Hope that clears it up.

[John in KY]

Is anyone else horribly tired of hearing the term "BCS School"? i think that factor alone shows why college football's selection process is such an amazingly bad joke.

BCS simply means Big Cash School. It makes more sense when you look at it like that.

That's a stupid way of looking at it and actually it's untrue. Here's a list of the top 20 college endowments:

1. Harvard University (Cambridge, Mass.) $25,473,721,000

2. Yale University (New Haven, Conn.) 15,224,900,000

3. Stanford University (Stanford, Calif.) 12,205,000,000

4. Univ. of Texas System Administration (Austin, Tex.) 11,610,997,000

5. Princeton University (Princeton, N.J.) 11,206,500,088

6. Massachusetts Institute of Technology (Cambridge, Mass.) 6,712,436,000

7. University of California 5,221,916,000

8. Columbia University (New York, N.Y.) 5,190,564,000

9. Texas A&M University (College Station, Tex.)2 4,963,879,000

10. Univ. of Michigan (Ann Arbor, Mich.) 4,931,338,000

11. Emory University (Atlanta, Ga.) 4,376,272,000

12. Univ. of Pennsylvania (Philadelphia, Pa.) 4,369,782,000

13. Washington University (St. Louis, Mo.) 4,268,415,000

14. Northwestern University (Evanston, Ill.) 4,215,275,000

15. Univ. of Chicago (Chicago, Ill.) 4,137,494,000

16. Duke University (Durham, N.C.) 3,826,153,000

17. Cornell University (Ithaca, N.Y.) 3,777,092,000

18. Univ. of Notre Dame (Notre Dame, Ind.) 3,650,224,000

19. Rice University (Houston, Tex.) 3,611,127,000

20. Univ. of Virginia (Charlottesville, Va.)

Over half of those are non-"BCS" schools.

Interesting list - I wonder how many of these institutions actually commingle their athletic funds with their general endowment funds. Outside of the Ivy League schools, I suspect that many of these schools are running their athletic funds outside of these endowment stats. I'm not sure about the Ivy League schools because they have been around for so long and outside of the occasional upset in the NCAA basketball tournament they don't have a huge presence in the world of college athletics any more.

[footballfiji]

Here, hope this satisfies your curiosity:

Schools Ranked by Football Investments:

1. University of Colorado $2,794,308

2. Rutgers $1,110,074

3. University of Alabama-Tuscaloosa $572,765

4. University of Michigan $490,881

5. College of William & Mary $469,105

6. University of Minnesota $410,992

7. University of Texas $407,176

8. University of California-Los Angeles $379,566

9. Virginia Tech University $303,152

10. University of Washington $258,884

11. University of California-Berkeley $248,597

12. University of Iowa $236,884

13. University of South Florida $167,300

14. University of Illinois $149,547

15. University of Arizona $141,822

Of those teams, only 1 is going to a BCS bowl game.

Football Ticket Sales:

1. Ohio State University $29,186,872

2. University of Michigan $26,953,091

3. Texas A&M University $21,949,047

4. University of Tennessee $21,122,228

5. University of Texas $20,161,278

6. Louisiana State University $18,965,088

7. University of Nebraska $17,217,163

8. University of Arkansas $16,924,894

9. University of Alabama-Tuscaloosa $16,139,704

10. Auburn University $14,939,072

Schools Ranked by Student Fees (Here's what students are paying to keep football at the school)

1. Florida International University $3,671,876

2. University of Akron $2,896,228

3. Miami University (Ohio) $2,715,791

4. James Madison University $1,718,030

5. Ohio University $1,663,971

6. Norfolk State University $1,492,937

7. University of Texas $1,370,253

8. Texas Tech University $1,334,622

9. Eastern Michigan University $1,278,288

10. University of Texas-El Paso $1,211,802

Schools Ranked by Football Contributions (amount of money that football brings in by itself)

1. University of Georgia $26,035,318

2. University of Florida $21,787,814

3. University of Texas $15,680,307

4. University of Alabama-Tuscaloosa $14,821,486

5. Auburn University $14,293,519

6. University of Michigan $11,213,608

7. University of Wisconsin $10,985,338

8. Oregon State University $10,542,768

9. Ohio State University $10,311,906

10. Louisiana State University $8,692,612

Schools Ranked by Institutional Support (amount of money the school directly contributes to football)

1. University of Wyoming $2,595,236

2. Rutgers $2,342,895

3. Central Michigan University $2,228,511

4. University of Rhode Island $1,929,730

5. University of Maine $1,698,555

6. Jacksonville State University $1,585,279

7. University of New Hampshire $1,257,687

8. The Citadel $1,237,310

9. University of Wisconsin $1,228,585

10. Eastern Kentucky University $1,159,641

Only 1 BCS school there.

Schools Ranked by Football subtotal:

1. University of Texas $53,204,171

2. Ohio State University $51,810,607

3. University of Georgia $50,895,838

4. University of Michigan $46,396,107

5. University of Florida $43,417,641

6. University of Alabama-Tuscaloosa $42,979,669

7. Auburn University $40,563,927

8. Louisiana State University $40,107,764

9. Texas A&M University $38,359,977

10. University of Wisconsin $34,133,314

So, in conclusion. Just being a big money school doesn't guarantee a BCS bowl game.

Other schools are paying more to keep football. Just because Ohio State is blessed with a huge athletic budget, doesn't mean they are better than other schools.

Also, for anyone that's interested, check out indystaronline and look at the financial rankings of the schools.

[DG_ThenNowForever]

Just curious: When did we start typing it "Hawai'i" and not "Hawaii"?

[infrared41]

Here, hope this satisfies your curiosity:

So, in conclusion. Just being a big money school doesn't guarantee a BCS bowl game.

Other schools are paying more to keep football. Just because Ohio State is blessed with a huge athletic budget, doesn't mean they are better than other schools.

Also, for anyone that's interested, check out indystaronline and look at the financial rankings of the schools.

Yeah but you left out the other part of the equation. Who brings the TV ratings to the table and who "travels" well. No one is saying that there are any "guarantees." There are however "preferences."

And Ohio State isn't better than other schools because of the athletic budget. Ohio State is better because...well we just are. Don't believe it? Just ask us. Relax, I'm just kidding.

[JQK]

Just curious: When did we start typing it "Hawai'i" and not "Hawaii"?

It's always been typed and expressed that way. Where have you been?

[DG_ThenNowForever]

Just curious: When did we start typing it "Hawai'i" and not "Hawaii"?

It's always been typed and expressed that way. Where have you been?

I'm only accepting responses from people who are able to correctly spell "corporate."

[BB61]

Just curious: When did we start typing it "Hawai'i" and not "Hawaii"?

It's always been typed and expressed that way. Where have you been?

Eating puppies.

The apostrophe is there to indicate the extra syllable that's at the end.

Hawaii = Huh-WHY

Hawai'i = Huh-WHY-ee.

[DG_ThenNowForever]

Just curious: When did we start typing it "Hawai'i" and not "Hawaii"?

It's always been typed and expressed that way. Where have you been?

Eating puppies.

The apostrophe is there to indicate the extra syllable that's at the end.

Hawaii = Huh-WHY

Hawai'i = Huh-WHY-ee.

Oh, I know why it's there. And I'm happy to be wrong, but I just feel like that within the past few years, there's been more of an effort (in sports broadcast at least), to spell it the proper way. When I was going through elementary school it was "Hawaii," no extra apostrophe. Now it's the proper spelling. Much like we've begun to move away from "Ivory Coast" and instead to the proper "Cote D'Ivoire" (although that's a special case in an of itself).

I vividly remember watching Hawai'i play Alabama several years ago on ESPN late night. The Rainbow Warriors won that game, but I don't specifically remember seeing "Hawai'i" instead of "Hawaii." I pick up on these things, and it seems that's it's relatively recent that we're correctly typing out the state.

[winghaz]

If you go by Associated Press style, which I do, it's Hawaii, not Hawai'i. The English language generally doesn't allow for punctuation on spelling regarding punctuation.

[John in KY]

Here, hope this satisfies your curiosity:

Also, for anyone that's interested, check out indystaronline and look at the financial rankings of the schools.

Interesting info; I was looking around for the Sports Illustrated article on NCAA athletic budgets but couldn't turn up an unblocked copy on-line.

[Eye]

Just curious: When did we start typing it "Hawai'i" and not "Hawaii"?

It's always been typed and expressed that way. Where have you been?

Eating puppies.

The apostrophe is there to indicate the extra syllable that's at the end.

Hawaii = Huh-WHY

Hawai'i = Huh-WHY-ee.

He doesn't really eat puppies does he? Gitlin, you monster!!!!!!!!!!111!1 How could you???????///???/

[footballfiji]

Just curious: When did we start typing it "Hawai'i" and not "Hawaii"?

It's always been typed and expressed that way. Where have you been?

Eating puppies.

The apostrophe is there to indicate the extra syllable that's at the end.

Hawaii = Huh-WHY

Hawai'i = Huh-WHY-ee.

He doesn't really eat puppies does he? Gitlin, you monster!!!!!!!!!!111!1 How could you???????///???/

He does, but only dachshunds.

[Seadragon76]

Heisman Finalists are just announced. They are...

-Hawaii QB Colt Brennan

-Missouri QB Chase Daniel

-Arkansas RB Darren McFadden

-Florida QB Tim Tebow

[kewp80]

Heisman Finalists are just announced. They are...

-Hawaii QB Colt Brennan

-Missouri QB Chase Daniel

-Arkansas RB Darren McFadden

-Florida QB Tim Tebow

There should be five...

who's the other?

[See Red]

Tebow should run away with this thing.

[rams80]

Heisman Finalists are just announced. They are...

-Hawaii QB Colt Brennan

-Missouri QB Chase Daniel

-Arkansas RB Darren McFadden

-Florida QB Tim Tebow

There should be five...

who's the other?

Not necessarily. IIRC, the year Bush won they only had 3 show up.

[infrared41]

Heisman Finalists are just announced. They are...

-Hawaii QB Colt Brennan

-Missouri QB Chase Daniel

-Arkansas RB Darren McFadden

-Florida QB Tim Tebow

There should be five...

who's the other?

From what I understand there is no limit or minimum on finalists. It's simply who gets enough votes to be invited. There could be 10 finalists one year and three the next.

Tebow should win this thing in a walk.

[Drew22]

Did anyone just see that Mangino just win coach of the year?

LMAO!

[DarkJourney]

University of South Alabama will be adding football to it's athletic program starting in 2009 with a full transiition to

Football Bowl Subdivision (I-A) in 2013. This will bring the Sun Belt Conference up to 10 football schools (Western Kentucky just moved up from I-AA).