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I picked the 1981 Cincinnati Reds because they finished first overall that year and missed the playoffs!

How did they manage to miss the playoffs that year?

MLB played a split season in 1981, the division winners from each half of the season met in a best 2 of 3 division series before moving on to the LCS.

The Reds finished first in the NL West when you combined the two halves but failed to finish first in either the first or second half.

The same thing happened to the St Louis Cardinals in NL East.

This always had me curious...

What happened if you won both halves?

Also, after you won the first half, what was your incentive to try hard in the second half (unless the answer to question 1 is that you get a first-round bye)?

In the minors, where IIRC "half season" playoff setups are common, if you win both halves, it means there is a(nother) wild card team, based on position in the second half standings.
Depends on the league. In the local minor league, if a team wins both halves of a division, the team with the best overall record of all non-playoff qualifiers gets in.

Example: Southern Maryland won the first half of the Liberty Division. Somerset won the first half of the Freedom Division. They both lead the second half of their respective divisions. Should both go and win the second half, there will be two wild cards, which may or may not come from the same division.

Let's say Newark (Freedom) and Long Island (Liberty) get those wild card spots, as they are currently leading. By rule, regardless of record, Newark plays Somerset, Long Island plays Southern Maryland. Now, if, say, Long Island and Bridgeport (both Liberty) get the wild cards, then they will seed the playoffs, from 1 to 4 by regular season record.

Either way, they have a full playoff field right? No byes.

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I picked the 1981 Cincinnati Reds because they finished first overall that year and missed the playoffs!

How did they manage to miss the playoffs that year?

MLB played a split season in 1981, the division winners from each half of the season met in a best 2 of 3 division series before moving on to the LCS.

The Reds finished first in the NL West when you combined the two halves but failed to finish first in either the first or second half.

The same thing happened to the St Louis Cardinals in NL East.

This always had me curious...

What happened if you won both halves?

Also, after you won the first half, what was your incentive to try hard in the second half (unless the answer to question 1 is that you get a first-round bye)?

In the minors, where IIRC "half season" playoff setups are common, if you win both halves, it means there is a(nother) wild card team, based on position in the second half standings.
Depends on the league. In the local minor league, if a team wins both halves of a division, the team with the best overall record of all non-playoff qualifiers gets in.

Example: Southern Maryland won the first half of the Liberty Division. Somerset won the first half of the Freedom Division. They both lead the second half of their respective divisions. Should both go and win the second half, there will be two wild cards, which may or may not come from the same division.

Let's say Newark (Freedom) and Long Island (Liberty) get those wild card spots, as they are currently leading. By rule, regardless of record, Newark plays Somerset, Long Island plays Southern Maryland. Now, if, say, Long Island and Bridgeport (both Liberty) get the wild cards, then they will seed the playoffs, from 1 to 4 by regular season record.

Either way, they have a full playoff field right? No byes.

Yep, no byes, though I think some leagues do have byes (FSL, for one)

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I got one.

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The '09 Rams. I'm predicting a Miami Dolphins turnaround. I think Spags is the answer to get us (yes, I'm sorry, THEM) to at least a playoff spot. ^_^ Afterall, the Rams do play in arguably the worst division in the NFL.

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I got one.

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The '09 Rams. I'm predicting a Miami Dolphins turnaround. I think Spags is the answer to get us (yes, I'm sorry, THEM) to at least a playoff spot. ^_^ Afterall, the Rams do play in arguably the worst division in the NFL.

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LOL!! Hate to burst your bubble, pal, but the Lambs are arguably the WORST team in said division. If they get more then 5 wins, be happy, cause the postseason is like a rainbow for Lamb fans: Only an idiot would chase it.

 

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2001 Florida Gators - 9/11 caused the Tennessee game to be moved to the end of the season. Florida had injury problems by then, and it cost them a shot at an SEC and probable National Championship birth vs. the Miami Hurricanes

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What might have been....

Although this game was played in 2001, it was still technically part of the 2000 season. And considering that Miami absolutely manhandled the Gators in this game (The score really didn't indicate just how lopsided the second half was, even though it ended 37-20), and only got better the next season, I don't think there would have been any way they would've done any better than Nebraska.

And I think you're nuts to think that The Phins could've beat San Fran in that Super Bowl.

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I'm really starting to wonder if people start these threads to sit back an laugh at the flood of rampant homerism.

I'm not saying it's right, but I understand. :P

Would you care to join me in saying 1969 Orioles?

I think you need to add the '71 and '97 O's as well. And lets not forget the 1968 Baltimore Colts and the '73-'74 Maryland Terps Basketball team that went 23-5 ranked number 4 in the US and didn't even make the NCAA tourny!

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I picked the 1981 Cincinnati Reds because they finished first overall that year and missed the playoffs!

How did they manage to miss the playoffs that year?

MLB played a split season in 1981, the division winners from each half of the season met in a best 3 of 5 division series before moving on to the LCS.

The Reds finished first in the NL West when you combined the two halves but failed to finish first in either the first or second half.

The same thing happened to the St Louis Cardinals in NL East.

They also played the first ever divisional series that year. I don't get why they didn't just include the first half as part of a whole season record and take the best teams from the east and west divisions for the entire year. What they got were teams that weren't actually the best teams playing in the playoffs (Kansas City had a losing record!) and a screwy system that gave incentives for the first half winners to coast down the second half stretch. It's been 28 years since and this is probably just me sticking up for my favorite team 6 years before I was even born, but I think it's bull@hit.

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Let's also not forget the 1973 NC State Wolfpack - undefeated but didn't qualify for the NCAA tournament.

Because they were banned from postseason play by the NCAA. Doesn't count IMO.

 

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What exactly is the rational behind the split season? Is it just to make games meaningful in the second half for teams that lose a lot of games early?

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Let's also not forget the 1973 NC State Wolfpack - undefeated but didn't qualify for the NCAA tournament.

Because they were banned from postseason play by the NCAA. Doesn't count IMO.

Sorry to be rude to you Ryan, but you are wrong.......by a galaxy. Maryland didn't get an NCAA bid because in 1974, conferences could only receive one bid to the tournament. NC State beat Maryland 103-100 in the ACC final that year to represent the ACC and the Terps were left home(The Terps did not even take the advances of the NIT's offer of a berth, North Carolina accepted instead). The NCAA changed the rules governing access to the tournament the following year, thus setting the stage for what we currently enjoy.

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2001 Florida Gators - 9/11 caused the Tennessee game to be moved to the end of the season. Florida had injury problems by then, and it cost them a shot at an SEC and probable National Championship birth vs. the Miami Hurricanes

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What might have been....

Although this game was played in 2001, it was still technically part of the 2000 season. And considering that Miami absolutely manhandled the Gators in this game (The score really didn't indicate just how lopsided the second half was, even though it ended 37-20), and only got better the next season, I don't think there would have been any way they would've done any better than Nebraska.

And I think you're nuts to think that The Phins could've beat San Fran in that Super Bowl.

True, you are right that it should say 2000 Florida Gators. Even still, that team was pretty damn good. They were much better than the Nebraska team. Would they have beaten UM? It would have been 50/50.

As far as the 1994-95 Dolphins, if you look this was a darn good team. I'd have been happy to pit that against San Francisco that year:

QB: Dan Marino

WR: Irving Fryar

WR: OJ McDuffie

WR: Mark Ingram

TE: Keith Jackson

RB: Terry Kirby/Mark Higgs/Bernie Parmalee (the only real weakness)

FB: Keith Byars

DE: Marco Coleman

DE: Jeff Cross

DT: Tim Bowens

DT: Chuck Klingbeil

LB: Bryan Cox

LB: Chris Singleton

LB: Dwight Hollier

DB: Troy Vincent

DB: JB Brown

DB: Gene Atkins

DB: Michael Stewart

K: Pete Stoyanovich

...I think Steve Emtman was on this team too

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2001 Florida Gators - 9/11 caused the Tennessee game to be moved to the end of the season. Florida had injury problems by then, and it cost them a shot at an SEC and probable National Championship birth vs. the Miami Hurricanes

NOP2001010202.jpg

What might have been....

Although this game was played in 2001, it was still technically part of the 2000 season. And considering that Miami absolutely manhandled the Gators in this game (The score really didn't indicate just how lopsided the second half was, even though it ended 37-20), and only got better the next season, I don't think there would have been any way they would've done any better than Nebraska.

And I think you're nuts to think that The Phins could've beat San Fran in that Super Bowl.

True, you are right that it should say 2000 Florida Gators. Even still, that team was pretty damn good. They were much better than the Nebraska team. Would they have beaten UM? It would have been 50/50.

As far as the 1994-95 Dolphins, if you look this was a darn good team. I'd have been happy to pit that against San Francisco that year:

QB: Dan Marino

WR: Irving Fryar

WR: OJ McDuffie

WR: Mark Ingram

TE: Keith Jackson

RB: Terry Kirby/Mark Higgs/Bernie Parmalee (the only real weakness)

FB: Keith Byars

DE: Marco Coleman

DE: Jeff Cross

DT: Tim Bowens

DT: Chuck Klingbeil

LB: Bryan Cox

LB: Chris Singleton

LB: Dwight Hollier

DB: Troy Vincent

DB: JB Brown

DB: Gene Atkins

DB: Michael Stewart

K: Pete Stoyanovich

...I think Steve Emtman was on this team too

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No way they would have beaten San Fran. Not that year.

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1. 2010 Syracuse Basketball: If they didn't lose Arinze Onuaku, they probably win it all. They still could have beat Butler and Kansas State, and Onuaku would have came back for the Final Four, which they would have won with him, no doubt.

2. 1998 Kansas State Football: They were the best team in the nation that year. There was no reason for them to lose to Texas A&M.

3. 1996 Denver Broncos: They were the best team in the league that year before getting knocked off by Jacksonville.

4. 1991 Trail Blazers: They let that one get away against LA, especially games 1 and 6. If they wouldn't have blown game 1 while still winning game 2, that series would have been much different.

5. 2000 Trail Blazers: Game 7. Collapse. Enough said.

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1. 2010 Syracuse Basketball: If they didn't lose Arinze Onuaku, they probably win it all. They still could have beat Butler and Kansas State, and Onuaku would have came back for the Final Four, which they would have won with him, no doubt.

2. 1998 Kansas State Football: They were the best team in the nation that year. There was no reason for them to lose to Texas A&M.

3. 1996 Denver Broncos: They were the best team in the league that year before getting knocked off by Jacksonville.

4. 1991 Trail Blazers: They let that one get away against LA, especially games 1 and 6. If they wouldn't have blown game 1 while still winning game 2, that series would have been much different.

5. 2000 Trail Blazers: Game 7. Collapse. Enough said.

I dont think the Broncos belong on this list because that same team won the next two Super Bowls. When I think of this list I think of teams that did not rebound the next year to win or won during any period surrounding said year.

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Wellp, since this thread done been brought back from the dead--and I ain't looking back through it to see if it already got mentioned--Imma go ahead and submit the Fab Five from the U of Michigan.

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