CrimsonBull9584 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 12 hours ago, TrueYankee26 said: They should get some HBCUs. The HBCUs will finally be on the map without hiring a former NFL player as a head coach, they get the funding they need and the CUSA stays alive. Not to mention the amount of elite African American talent they would attract now that they are playing on an FBS level. And not to mention... THE BANDS. I was with you until you mentioned "THE BANDS". As someone who spent two years working on an HBCU football team, I can honestly say that the most difficult part of the whole experience was dealing with the band on game day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueYankee26 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Geoff said: That would be great. Problem is how many HBCU athletic departments can afford 85 scholarships, facilities renovations, increased travel budgets, etc. NC A&T and Jackson State most likely could swing it but who else? Maybe FAMU could but Bragg hasn't been renovated in 40 years and needs a lot of love. FAMU would likely need to have Bethune-Cookman come up to so they could keep the rivalry alive. 11 hours ago, Seadragon76 said: The only time an HBCU went to the FBS level was in the early 2000's by Florida A&M, who then retreated back to the MEAC. No way in hell does any of them try that. Yeah sadly a lot of them will not jump up to FBS, but I think someone like Jackson State can make the jump Quote trueyankee26.wordpress.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 1 hour ago, TrueYankee26 said: I am positive it is pronounced like Carlton Pretty much. They linger a little longer on the L so it's not 100% like saying Carlton. Quote Athletic Director: KTU Blue Grassers Football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seadragon76 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 2 hours ago, TrueYankee26 said: Yeah sadly a lot of them will not jump up to FBS, but I think someone like Jackson State can make the jump When I say nobody, I mean nobody.. that includes Jackson State. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Comet Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Alright, here’s why HBCUs will NEVER make the jump to FBS and frankly why they shouldn’t. Outside of Howard at over $700,000,000, none of the HBCUs have the endowments (aka financial support) to compete with FBS schools. That’s why they’re at the FCS level. I think having people like Deion Sanders coaching HBCUs is a step in the right direction to potentially being able to compete at an FBS level, but that is decades away if it’s even a possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDAWG Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Wouldn't Bowers Stadium at Sam Houston State have to expand to at least 15,000 to make the FBS move? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Probably more to ensure the rolling average of 15k Quote Athletic Director: KTU Blue Grassers Football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 On 10/23/2021 at 2:17 AM, Red Wolf said: They tried to get in for all sports with the Sun Belt but there wasn't any interest from the conference. Non-football membership may not be a thing for C-USA if things are as cataclysmic as they seem, so NMSU might not have the ability to argue for full membership vs. football only. Here's the thing, WAC may be FCS now, but there is no guarantee it wouldn't eventually be able to make the jump to FBS if the Texas adds are allowed to grow that way. Current WAC is fine for Olympic sports, so they aren't just gonna bail. On 10/23/2021 at 2:17 AM, Red Wolf said: But do they have the money to add even more scholarships and build up facilities? I know very little about this school. I don't even know how to pronounce Tarleton. Largest TAMU campus not in College Station, plans to make massive physical investments in athletics. Not a terrible add considering. 1 Quote On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonBull9584 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Well, something tells me Liberty won't be joining a conference anytime soon. https://twitter.com/RobergMartin37/status/1452657913634463745 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Needschat Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 On 9/15/2021 at 12:31 PM, GDAWG said: I live in the Dallas/Fort Worth area, and TCU is nothing close to what Liberty is as a religious school. It's not as deeply religious as Liberty is. Liberty, Baylor, and BYU are more religious than TCU. Quote Oh what could have been.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavybass Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Tomorrow is likely going to be the confirmation of Southern Miss joining the Sun Belt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsfan7 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Needschat said: Liberty, Baylor, and BYU are more religious than TCU. Pretty much every religious school is more religious than TCU 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyJimmy Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 1 hour ago, CrimsonBull9584 said: Well, something tells me Liberty won't be joining a conference anytime soon. https://twitter.com/RobergMartin37/status/1452657913634463745 death penalty. how Liberty even got to FBS was a fraud in the first place, but they seem hellbent on proving the NCAA made a massive mistake. they 100% deserve to get SMU'd. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seadragon76 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 And people wonder why Liberty can't find an FBS home, it's because of things like that. No conference in their right mind wants that kind of negative attention thrown at them.. just be glad that the football team and the basketball team are winning, because I'm sure that if they weren't winners, a ton more would (or could) be exposed for all to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Liberty just has a bigger spotlight. I wish all these trashass schools would get the death penalty, not just in athletics. It's not just Liberty/Baylor/BYU, it's just that most of these schools have the sense to operate more under the radar. But that's a topic for another thread. I wonder if it truly was "Liberty turned their nose up at the new CUSA" or "CUSA noped the hell out of there because ... ew" 3 Quote Athletic Director: KTU Blue Grassers Football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 7 hours ago, JerseyJimmy said: death penalty. how Liberty even got to FBS was a fraud in the first place, but they seem hellbent on proving the NCAA made a massive mistake. they 100% deserve to get SMU'd. This is institutional, not athletics related per se. Which is the real reason why they won't get offered a home at the FBS level because nobody wants to associate with this in non-athletic settings. 1 Quote On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavybass Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Looking likely to be end of the week/early next week for Sun Belt to annouce their expansion... the Sun Belt is going to be one hell of an Eastern Division and a very centralised West Division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimalCookie Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Southern Miss makes it official: Marshall, Old Dominion, and James Madison should be announced later this week. Marshall is appointing a new university president on Thursday so they want to wait to make their final decision until he/she gives it the go ahead - I'm not sure what the holdup is for the Virginia schools but everything I've seen says they'll be officially in by next week at the latest as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 ODU's announcement might be quicker. I think they have to get the rubber stamp from the state government but any school reclassifying has to jump through more hoops than they would in another state. Quote Athletic Director: KTU Blue Grassers Football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsfan7 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Yeah I would expect the hold up for JMU to be the reclassification part Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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