rams80 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Anti-slavery was a wartime tactic in the same way "bringing democracy to the Iraqis" is a facade. Demonstrably false, unless you have any evidence that Iraq made that claim at the beginning of the war.The United States didn't want to make the Civil War about slavery. But the CSA sure as hell did.Please elaborate.Article 1, Section 9, Paragraph 4 of the Confederate Constitution. Right here.No bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law denying or impairing the right of property in negro slaves shall be passed/Apologies On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-kj Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Please stop making the Winnipeg Jets logo thread into a historical debate on the rights and wrongs of war.While McCall is not a mod, he is correct. I'm a mod, so I'm asking that be taken elsewhere. Buy some t-shirts and stuff at KJ Shop! KJ Branded | Behance portfolio POTD 2013-08-22 On 7/14/2012 at 2:20 AM, tajmccall said: When it comes to style, ya'll really should listen to Kev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Please stop making the Winnipeg Jets logo thread into a historical debate on the rights and wrongs of war.While McCall is not a mod, he is correct. I'm a mod, so I'm asking that be taken elsewhere.Wasn't trying to be. Was just asking nicely. Hence the "please". https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleuet Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Its so canadian to use a US designed McDonnell Douglas F-18 on the crest...Why didnt they put a Avro Arrow instead?Thanks Reebok for another desaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vman Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Its so canadian to use a US designed McDonnell Douglas F-18 on the crest...Why didnt they put a Avro Arrow instead?Thanks Reebok for another desaster.It's not an F-18. It has elements of four different fighter jets, used by the US, Canada and Russia, but illustrates none of them precisely. It's just an artists rendering. The Arrow would have been too bland a shape to make it effective. I'm not in love with this, especially the pointy tail end, but it's by no means a disaster, just not as good as it could have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee. Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 As a Canadian, I'm sick to :censored:ing death of people complaining about the Arrow not being depicted. Maybe it's a :censored:ty silhouette to use for a logo. Welcome to DrunjFlix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Its so canadian to use a US designed McDonnell Douglas F-18 on the crest...Why didnt they put a Avro Arrow instead?Thanks Reebok for another desaster.It's not an F-18. It has elements of four different fighter jets, used by the US, Canada and Russia, but illustrates none of them precisely. It's just an artists rendering. The Arrow would have been too bland a shape to make it effective. I'm not in love with this, especially the pointy tail end, but it's by no means a disaster, just not as good as it could have been.It's a stylized and simplified CF-18. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Its so canadian to use a US designed McDonnell Douglas F-18 on the crest...Why didnt they put a Avro Arrow instead?Thanks Reebok for another desaster.It's not an F-18. It has elements of four different fighter jets, used by the US, Canada and Russia, but illustrates none of them precisely. It's just an artists rendering. The Arrow would have been too bland a shape to make it effective. I'm not in love with this, especially the pointy tail end, but it's by no means a disaster, just not as good as it could have been.It's a jet. They're the Jets. Deal with it and move on. https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I'm surprised so many people can identify just which jet the jet is supposed to be. I figured it was a generic jet. Golly. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 It's a stylized and simplified CF-18.Which, as the "C" might suggest, is Canadian:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Douglas_CF-18_HornetDefinitely inspired by, but not so precise as to become quickly outdated. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I'm tired of the Avro Arrow in general. Yeah, it was a kickass jet, and yes it sucks that it was cancelled. I think we as a nation can move on, however. PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sport Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I just looked up the Avro Arrow and while it's a cool looking plane, it would've looked dumb in the logo. Basically it would've been a triangle on top of the leaf. The jet they chose is good enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I just looked up the Avro Arrow and while it's a cool looking plane, it would've looked dumb in the logo. Basically it would've been a triangle on top of the leaf. The jet they chose is good enough for me.I agree. For reference, here's a top view of it. It's not a good top-down silhouette. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Yeah, the CF-18 is a much better choice. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconoclast Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Insofar as the issue of slavery during the Civil War... well we could debate all day about it. Calling it the "basis of the war" completely negates the vast economical and political differences between the North and South, and the fact that less than 2% of the South owned slaves. Actually, one-third of Southern families owned slaves. The economic and political differences were mainly shaped by issue of slavery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliott Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Anyone else getting a pre-edge Canucks color scheme vibe from these Jets logos and rumors of what the jersey will look like? If it's a two-tone blue jersey with silver accents, it could look even more similar. Dribbble ... Behance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockey week Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 anybody else thinking they're going to take the ideas of the Blue Jackets third and execute it slightly better? I'll respect any opinion that you can defend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleuet Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 It's a stylized and simplified CF-18.Which, as the "C" might suggest, is Canadian:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Douglas_CF-18_HornetDefinitely inspired by, but not so precise as to become quickly outdated.The CF-18 is as much canadian as the Chevrolet Aveo is american ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee. Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I think I speak for all when I say "who gives a about the nationality of the plane?"It's stylized. It's not clip-art. It's closer to Madden create-a-team, but it's not clip art. Let's move forward. Welcome to DrunjFlix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JQK Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Canadians:"We got Winnipeg back! Yay!"Wait, the plane in the logo may NOT be 100% canadian!""BOOOOOOO! Send this junk team back to those american a**holes!" Stay Tuned Sports Podcast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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