2013 NCAA FOOTBALL THREAD

[infrared41]

So here's guessing that Auburn will leapfrog tOSU in the BCS should they win the Iron Bowl.

Auburn will probably take #2, FSU would be #1. Bama to #4.

That's my guess.

Maybe in the computers, but a one loss team isn't going to leapfrog an undefeated team from an AQ conference in the polls. I'm not saying Ohio State is better than Auburn or that a win over 'Bama isn't enough to move Auburn past the Buckeyes, but we all know that voters put a premium on being undefeated. Need proof? Northern Illinois is ranked higher than LSU - does any sane person on these boards believe N. Illinois is better than LSU?

That said, B1G team or not, Ohio State has won 24 straight. They must be pretty good at something. Maybe it's time people give them a little credit?

They're really good at beating other Big Ten teams. And Cal.

You can only play who's on your schedule. I don't care who you play, winning 24 straight ain't easy. But the B1G's rep is what it is. Nothing I can do about that. At least we can put something besides our uniform history in a sig.

[dfwabel]

Brady Hoke won't be looking for a job in January because of the failed 2 point conversion call. And to be honest, his job is safe this year, but his seat is starting to get warm. He has been getting very good recruiting classes, but his players show no improvement or progress through the season or from year to year. I reiterate, it is NOT because of the failed 2 point conversion call. And by no means will he be jobless come January. But his seat is starting to get warm.

Hoke's OL is inexperienced and would've been even worse had Lewan gone to the NFL. The year prior to his arrival, RichRod only signed 1 lineman and in his first year, Hoke only signed 3.

Lack of their development and the fact that going into today, Hoke and RichRod possess the same record in the last two seasons have people wondering.

[Sport]

I really like the 2 point conversion call.

I think that's Michigan's best bet to win that game and they were gaining over three yards every play in the game. I would've done the same thing. I wouldn't have run the play they ran, but I thought the call to go for it favored the math over trying to play in overtime.

[dbadefense1990]

So here's guessing that Auburn will leapfrog tOSU in the BCS should they win the Iron Bowl.

Auburn will probably take #2, FSU would be #1. Bama to #4.

That's my guess.

Maybe in the computers, but a one loss team isn't going to leapfrog an undefeated team from an AQ conference in the polls. I'm not saying Ohio State is better than Auburn or that a win over 'Bama isn't enough to move Auburn past the Buckeyes, but we all know that voters put a premium on being undefeated. Need proof? Northern Illinois is ranked higher than LSU - does any sane person on these boards believe N. Illinois is better than LSU?

That said, B1G team or not, Ohio State has won 24 straight. They must be pretty good at something. Maybe it's time people give them a little credit?

They won't. Thanks to all those infractions and sanctions, tOSU will be judged more harshly in terms of the polls. They'll eventually have the same problem USC has and Penn State will have; they'll lose a couple of spots for close wins and take a free-fall in any loss, even if the game was close.

Hell, I could also make the argument that the poll setters would rather have a two-loss SEC team in the title game than an undefeated Buckeyes team.

[Sport]

Not to rush to any snap judgments that we're weeks away from, but if a one loss Auburn jumps an undefeated Ohio State I'm never watching College Football again.

It's taken me two years to get back after the LSU-Alabama atrocity of 2011.

[Midway]

Heartwrenching to lose yet again when the game was there to take. But going for 2 was definitely the right call in a game this big.

Say what you will about OSU's unbeaten campaign but they keep squeaking out these types of big wins while their contending counterparts actually blow out their respective big game opponents.

[infrared41]

That said, B1G team or not, Ohio State has won 24 straight. They must be pretty good at something. Maybe it's time people give them a little credit?

They won't. Thanks to all those infractions and sanctions, tOSU will be judged more harshly in terms of the polls. They'll eventually have the same problem USC has and Penn State will have; they'll lose a couple of spots for close wins and take a free-fall in any loss, even if the game was close.

Hell, I could also make the argument that the poll setters would rather have a two-loss SEC team in the title game than an undefeated Buckeyes team.

First off, they're ranked #3. If that's being judged harshly, I'll take it. Using your logic, I guess they should be ranked higher than they are? I'd argue that Ohio State has been overrated all season. At no point this season (including today) have I thought they were as good as they're ranking. So there goes that part of your ridiculous "argument."

When I say it's time for them to get a little credit, it's stupid like your idiotic "poll setters would rather have a two loss SEC team" statement that I'm referring to. I'm not saying Ohio State is on the same level as Alabama or Florida State, but I do think it's time to stop acting like the Buckeyes would have trouble winning the MAC or beating anyone outside the Big Ten. Is Ohio State the 3rd best team in College Football? Probably not, but let's stop acting like they're some D-II team that keeps getting lucky.

[GFB]

Brady Hoke won't be looking for a job in January because of the failed 2 point conversion call. And to be honest, his job is safe this year, but his seat is starting to get warm. He has been getting very good recruiting classes, but his players show no improvement or progress through the season or from year to year. I reiterate, it is NOT because of the failed 2 point conversion call. And by no means will he be jobless come January. But his seat is starting to get warm.

I don't care what anyone says. 24-0 is nothing to scoff at... Especially when you are playing in a major conference. Period.

Eh, Hoke isn't going to be on the hot seat any time soon. Michigan has only 2 seniors of worth (Lewan and Gallon) and was the youngest team in the B10. They should shake up the offensive coaches this offseason, but you can't talk about "not developing players" when you're giving lineman (which take the longest to develop) 1-2 years, as oppose to 3, 4, or 5 years.

[Midway]

Hypothetically, should Auburn jump OSU off a win, it only seems fitting that the BCS system do everything in its power to give us the final F U before it finally dies off.

[infrared41]

Say what you will about OSU's unbeaten campaign but they keep squeaking out these types of big wins while their contending counterparts actually blow out their respective big game opponents.

I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean. I think it's taking a shot at Ohio State, but it might be a compliment. Either way, I'm betting the streak doesn't reach 25. I've been saying all week that the Buckeyes will lose one of their last two games. I figured that loss would come today. Instead, we get to take on a Michigan State team that has the "no one respects us" card to play. My guess is the Spartans are going to try to make a statement next Saturday.

[Kramerica Industries]

I agree with the sentiments here, basically, with regards to Ohio State's positioning and what should happen in the event Auburn pulls the upset today.

There is no justification for a one-loss team to get supremacy over an undefeated team when both teams come from AQ conferences. It's that simple. It just means that Florida State would drill Ohio State's doors off in the NCG, and that's an outcome that I am not too fond of (but get used to it; Florida State has already punched their ticket because they are NOT losing to Duke in the ACC-CG; no chance), but if Auburn wins today, then that's what we would have to look forward to, barring a Michigan State victory in the B1G Championship next week.

Some joker friend of mine had to remind me why I should be rooting for Alabama in this game, by the way, and I hate him for that. As much as my natural inkling is to root for Auburn, there is a significantly better chance that Alabama could beat Florida State than Auburn (or Ohio State, or Mizzou, or Okie State...), so I guess I have to go back to the dark side with regards to the Iron Bowl. Boo. Reality sucks.

[infrared41]

I agree with the sentiments here, basically, with regards to Ohio State's positioning and what should happen in the event Auburn pulls the upset today.

There is no justification for a one-loss team to get supremacy over an undefeated team when both teams come from AQ conferences. It's that simple. It just means that Florida State would drill Ohio State's doors off in the NCG, and that's an outcome that I am not too fond of (but get used to it; Florida State has already punched their ticket because they are NOT losing to Duke in the ACC-CG; no chance), but if Auburn wins today, then that's what we would have to look forward to, barring a Michigan State victory in the B1G Championship next week.

Some joker friend of mine had to remind me why I should be rooting for Alabama in this game, by the way, and I hate him for that. As much as my natural inkling is to root for Auburn, there is a significantly better chance that Alabama could beat Florida State than Auburn (or Ohio State, or Mizzou, or Okie State...), so I guess I have to go back to the dark side with regards to the Iron Bowl. Boo. Reality sucks.

I don't think you have anything to worry about. Alabama will win this game. The longer it stays close, the more it favors the Tide. However, given my druthers, I'll take my chances against Florida State. I want no part of Alabama. Hell, I don't want any part of either one of them. I'll be perfectly happy to slink off to the Rose Bowl - hopefully to play Zach's ASU Sun Devils.

[hailstateunis]

So here's guessing that Auburn will leapfrog tOSU in the BCS should they win the Iron Bowl.

Auburn will probably take #2, FSU would be #1. Bama to #4.

That's my guess.

Maybe in the computers, but a one loss team isn't going to leapfrog an undefeated team from an AQ conference in the polls. I'm not saying Ohio State is better than Auburn or that a win over 'Bama isn't enough to move Auburn past the Buckeyes, but we all know that voters put a premium on being undefeated. Need proof? Northern Illinois is ranked higher than LSU - does any sane person on these boards believe N. Illinois is better than LSU?

That said, B1G team or not, Ohio State has won 24 straight. They must be pretty good at something. Maybe it's time people give them a little credit?

They're really good at beating other Big Ten teams. And Cal.

You can only play who's on your schedule. I don't care who you play, winning 24 straight ain't easy. But the B1G's rep is what it is. Nothing I can do about that. At least we can put something besides our uniform history in a sig.

This isn't a uniform site or anything....

Southern Miss did win today, they beat UAB 62-27. Nice to see them finally win a game.

[Kramerica Industries]

These overturned touchdowns and accompanying explanations are thoroughly inane.

[dfwabel]

Vegasinsider has yet to post the sportsbook's lines for the B1G championship game. That said, I think that Sparty is sneaky good. The early loss to ND forced them until late October to get ranked in the AP and their schedule is not the greatest, but they still defend well. If the spartan was not on their helmet, I think they would be talked about more since offensively, they are as vanilla as your stereotypical, physical SEC team.

[ninersdd]

Tonight, let's send the PAC-12 championship game to the Bay Area! Bear Down!

[FiddySicks]

Tonight, let's send the PAC-12 championship game to the Bay Area! Bear Down!

Please, son. FORK THOSE PUSSIES!!!

[rams80]

So Purdue is not good at this football thing.

God, as annoying as Ohio St. may be, their not half as bad as Michigan. The refs always coming out to saving them, the annoying fatass Brady Hoke. I'll root for the Buckeyes, of course I'll probably have a different opinion after Tech goes to Columbus next year.

Also, UNC needs to turn it up. Their ugly uniforms need to start blinding these Duke guys, a UNC W and a win for Tech gives us the chance to lose to Florida St. Of course if Duke wins, Tech will have no reason to play and probably lose, so really UNC HAS TO WIN.

So Tech cannot get up for a game against their instate Conference rival. Good to know.

[fouhy12]

I give Hoke at least 2 more years before he is on the hot seat. R-Rod had awful recruiting, and I think Hoke really fits the team. The problem is that they don't have a consistent QB or a good O-line.

[Funky Bunky]

:censored: that. 99 yard pass?