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Yeah..one sided stripes don't cut it. Not only that, the awkwardness of the 4 stripes, so haphazard - they are entirely too bold, and the negative space creates for adidas' 3 stripes. probably why they did it. shameless plug on their part.

Jordan brand designed the jerseys. How many times does it need to be said? Adidas is only the manufacturer
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It's cool for small market teams that just need attention, or Las Vegas where it's set up specifically to handle events like this (even though that was a disaster), but for most of NBA it doesn't make sense.

Perhaps, but it's starting to look a little bad for Chicago that New York and Los Angeles can have it at the top end of the market spectrum, and New Orleans and Orlando can have it at the bottom, but Chicago can't. Also consider that the city has lost a great deal of its once-vaunted convention economy to, you guessed it, New Orleans and Orlando, and there's a little more insult to injury. That neither an All-Star Weekend nor actual all-stars come here cements that as far as the NBA goes, we're just an overgrown Milwaukee, and I think that's the way Jerry Reinsdorf wants it.

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It's cool for small market teams that just need attention, or Las Vegas where it's set up specifically to handle events like this (even though that was a disaster), but for most of NBA it doesn't make sense.

Perhaps, but it's starting to look a little bad for Chicago that New York and Los Angeles can have it at the top end of the market spectrum, and New Orleans and Orlando can have it at the bottom, but Chicago can't. Also consider that the city has lost a great deal of its once-vaunted convention economy to, you guessed it, New Orleans and Orlando, and there's a little more insult to injury. That neither an All-Star Weekend nor actual all-stars come here cements that as far as the NBA goes, we're just an overgrown Milwaukee, and I think that's the way Jerry Reinsdorf wants it.

Some teams don't want to host it- the heat for instance look at it as a burden with no upside.

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The Pacers don't want it - the league apparently wanted to put one in Indy years ago (BLF is still one of the premier facilities in the world), but the Pacers owners said it's not worth the effort.

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It's cool for small market teams that just need attention, or Las Vegas where it's set up specifically to handle events like this (even though that was a disaster), but for most of NBA it doesn't make sense.

Perhaps, but it's starting to look a little bad for Chicago that New York and Los Angeles can have it at the top end of the market spectrum, and New Orleans and Orlando can have it at the bottom, but Chicago can't. Also consider that the city has lost a great deal of its once-vaunted convention economy to, you guessed it, New Orleans and Orlando, and there's a little more insult to injury. That neither an All-Star Weekend nor actual all-stars come here cements that as far as the NBA goes, we're just an overgrown Milwaukee, and I think that's the way Jerry Reinsdorf wants it.

Some teams don't want to host it- the heat for instance look at it as a burden with no upside.

As more and more studies become public and make their way through the press it's becoming pretty evident that hosting large scale sporting events (FIFA WC,NFL SB, NBA ASG, Olympics) end up being net economic drains on the local host economies as the event organizers require more and more public/taxpayer giveaways. Some cities are actually deciding to opt out of these bad deals as they just don't make sense anymore in these economic times. The one exception is Atlanta, since they don't object at all to diverting public funds to subsidizing big time sports maybe they could just set themselves up as a permanent host city.

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I'm not sure I'd put the NBA ASG on the same level as the World Cup, the Super Bowl, or the Olympics. Pretty sure the latter three have enormous economic gains compared to the side show that is the NBA ASG.

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It's cool for small market teams that just need attention, or Las Vegas where it's set up specifically to handle events like this (even though that was a disaster), but for most of NBA it doesn't make sense.

Perhaps, but it's starting to look a little bad for Chicago that New York and Los Angeles can have it at the top end of the market spectrum, and New Orleans and Orlando can have it at the bottom, but Chicago can't. Also consider that the city has lost a great deal of its once-vaunted convention economy to, you guessed it, New Orleans and Orlando, and there's a little more insult to injury. That neither an All-Star Weekend nor actual all-stars come here cements that as far as the NBA goes, we're just an overgrown Milwaukee, and I think that's the way Jerry Reinsdorf wants it.

Some teams don't want to host it- the heat for instance look at it as a burden with no upside.

As more and more studies become public and make their way through the press it's becoming pretty evident that hosting large scale sporting events (FIFA WC,NFL SB, NBA ASG, Olympics) end up being net economic drains on the local host economies as the event organizers require more and more public/taxpayer giveaways. Some cities are actually deciding to opt out of these bad deals as they just don't make sense anymore in these economic times. The one exception is Atlanta, since they don't object at all to diverting public funds to subsidizing big time sports maybe they could just set themselves up as a permanent host city.

What you talking about Willis? Turner field was paid for by NBC and the Olympic Sponsors. The Olympics were put on without any public funds from the state or feds. Ga Dome was paid for by $200 Million in bonds which were paid for by a hotel tax so the locals didn't pay for it, and I wouldn't exactly call that a "public fund". The same hotel tax is being extended to pay for $200M of the new stadium. The rest of the stadium is being paid for by the NFL (~$150M) and Mr. Blank is paying the rest out of pocket. Phillips Arena was paid for by Ted Turner and SunTrust park is an outlier due to the crooks in Colorado who own the Braves and a Cobb County government which is about to get replaced due to an angry voter base.

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I'm not going to dig up the accounting details of either stadium deal but georgia taxpayers and visitors are definitely on the hook for both Cobballpark and GeorgaDome2 to varying degrees. If you're willing to find actual critiques of these financing deals you'll see that your broad brush strokes overlook many of the buried costs of the stadia that are ultimately at the expense of taxpayers. There are significant financial impacts when it comes to bond financing and infrastructure improvements which ends up being on the back of taxpayers and not the team ownership.

If you feel like reading actual critiques as opposed to rah rah articles here's a starting point for both projects. I'm not saying that there's no benefit to new stadia for fans but in the end the ownership usually comes up big and the general populous ends up losing from a financial/economic standpoint. Lastly the ATL metro is ditching stadia that are barely 20 years old which makes no sense any way you slice it.

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