Cosmic Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 I don't think there's such a thing as "before your window" winning. Almost by definition in the salary cap era, you need players to outplay their contracts to win the Cup. Normally (I have no stats to back this up) it comes from young players playing out one of their restricted free agent or entry level deals. I think your "window" is at least as much about lines 2-4 as it is when your best players are having their best years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramerica Industries Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I need someone to explain to me why the prevailing wisdom among NHL head coaches is to shoot first in the shootout.It makes no sense to me. It never has, and it never will. This is just like if a college football head coach instructed his team to take the ball to start an OT instead of going on defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeypower Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I need someone to explain to me why the prevailing wisdom among NHL head coaches is to shoot first in the shootout.It makes no sense to me. It never has, and it never will. This is just like if a college football head coach instructed his team to take the ball to start an OT instead of going on defense.I don't get it either but my dad thinks he knows why.His reasoning is that if you shoot first, you might lose before you get to take all three shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CS85 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 So that Hawks game sure was a thing. The Blues are a pox upon the hockey world. Quote "You are nothing more than a small cancer on this message board. You are not entertaining, you are a complete joke." twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramerica Industries Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I need someone to explain to me why the prevailing wisdom among NHL head coaches is to shoot first in the shootout.It makes no sense to me. It never has, and it never will. This is just like if a college football head coach instructed his team to take the ball to start an OT instead of going on defense.I don't get it either but my dad thinks he knows why.His reasoning is that if you shoot first, you might lose before you get to take all three shots.If the sequence were to go N-G-N-G, then you don't take your third shot as the "first choice" team, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodboy13 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 The shootout is a pox. The Hawks just ate ass at leisure over large stretches of the last two periods and gave up two-goal leads twice. Icky.Ducks won their 10th straight tonight. Maybe they can get their first sellout of the season when the Blackhawks come to town, too! On 1/25/2013 at 1:53 PM, 'Atom said: For all the bird de lis haters I think the bird de lis isnt supposed to be a pelican and a fleur de lis I think its just a fleur de lis with a pelicans head. Thats what it looks like to me. Also the flair around the tip of the beak is just flair that fleur de lis have sometimes source I am from NOLA. PotD: 10/19/07, 08/25/08, 07/22/10, 08/13/10, 04/15/11, 05/19/11, 01/02/12, and 01/05/12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still MIGHTY Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 The shootout is a pox. The Hawks just ate ass at leisure over large stretches of the last two periods and gave up two-goal leads twice. Icky.Ducks won their 10th straight tonight. Maybe they can get their first sellout of the season when the Blackhawks come to town, too!Um, the Ducks had a standing room only sell out tonight. It was actually the biggest crowd of the season (reported numbers-wise)... (And amazingly against the Coyotes. Like I've said previously, the Coyotes are a hard draw anyways but it always seemed especially so in Anaheim.)---10 in a row, 11-0-2 in the last 13, 4-0 vs Phoenix this year, tied at the top with 61 points but a game in hand on the Blackhawks.Game shouldn't have even gone to the overtime, hell it should have been a shutout. Hiller was cruising until a weird stanchion bounce caught him behind the net and nobody but a Coyote in front. Yotes pushed after that to tie it. Huge night from the "checking line" tonight (Koivu, Cogliano, Winnik). Those guys have some awesome chemistry and even offensively, even more so that our supposed 2nd line (Teemu-Perrault-Beleskey/Silfverberg/Palmieri/etc). Whenever Getzlaf/Perry falter, it's that checking line that usually is there to pick up the slack.Even bigger game in San Jose tomorrow night. Big dogs need to come out and fight tomorrow. | ANAÂ | LAA | LARÂ | LAL | ASU | CSULB |Â USMNTÂ | USWNT |Â LAFCÂ | OCSC |Â MAN UTDÂ | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HedleyLamarr Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I need someone to explain to me why the prevailing wisdom among NHL head coaches is to shoot first in the shootout.It makes no sense to me. It never has, and it never will. This is just like if a college football head coach instructed his team to take the ball to start an OT instead of going on defense.I don't get it either but my dad thinks he knows why.His reasoning is that if you shoot first, you might lose before you get to take all three shots.If the sequence were to go N-G-N-G, then you don't take your third shot as the "first choice" team, either.The thought process is that it puts the pressure on the visiting team should the home team's first shootout attempt be a goal.Anything can be broken down into "Well, if this scenario happens", but the home team putting their best/hottest shooter first puts instant pressure on the road team's goalie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigEd76 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 holy crap the Flyers won a shootout! They scored twice on Bryz to win at Rexall for the first time since March 2001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGM13 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 After the first period, I thought the Oilers could win, but of course not. What was I thinking? GO OILERS-GO BLUE JAYS-GO ESKIMOS-GO COLTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramerica Industries Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I need someone to explain to me why the prevailing wisdom among NHL head coaches is to shoot first in the shootout.It makes no sense to me. It never has, and it never will. This is just like if a college football head coach instructed his team to take the ball to start an OT instead of going on defense.I don't get it either but my dad thinks he knows why.His reasoning is that if you shoot first, you might lose before you get to take all three shots.If the sequence were to go N-G-N-G, then you don't take your third shot as the "first choice" team, either.The thought process is that it puts the pressure on the visiting team should the home team's first shootout attempt be a goal.Anything can be broken down into "Well, if this scenario happens", but the home team putting their best/hottest shooter first puts instant pressure on the road team's goalie.I'm personally more on the train of thought that says "always have the last shot"; I hate scenario's where it's tied going to the "bottom of the 3rd" and knowing that the game can be lost without having another shot at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakwood Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 So that Hawks game sure was a thing. The Blues are a pox upon the hockey world.Says the guy who supports the team with the logo that has chicken pox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninersdd Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I'm "happy happy happy" after the Sharks shoot down the Ducks. Time to sweep the home at home in Anaheim Tuesday. BEAR DOWN ARIZONA!2013/14 Tanks Picks Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still MIGHTY Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Grumble grumble grumble... Sharks... Grumble grumble grumble... stupid... Grumble grumble grumble...Yeah it was a tough one. Obviously, you can't win every single game and the streak was going to end, but I would have liked a better showing than that. (Also why I would have preferred Hiller today and Andersen yesterday. Not that it was entirely the goalie's fault, but not great.)Good thing is there's another game, same teams, on Tuesday. They'll get it back. | ANAÂ | LAA | LARÂ | LAL | ASU | CSULB |Â USMNTÂ | USWNT |Â LAFCÂ | OCSC |Â MAN UTDÂ | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sport Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 ugh, I hate Penguins fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I'm amazed by the Penguins. Not by Crosby, not by Malkin, but by the fact that they rack up as many 5s and 10s as meathead brigades like the Flyers and Sabres, yet none of it is ever their fault. They're Sideshow Bob in the field of rakes, evidently. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maz Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 ugh, I hate Penguins fans. Yes, we know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodboy13 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 ugh, I hate Penguins fans. Yes, we know.No, seriously though, you're awful. On 1/25/2013 at 1:53 PM, 'Atom said: For all the bird de lis haters I think the bird de lis isnt supposed to be a pelican and a fleur de lis I think its just a fleur de lis with a pelicans head. Thats what it looks like to me. Also the flair around the tip of the beak is just flair that fleur de lis have sometimes source I am from NOLA. PotD: 10/19/07, 08/25/08, 07/22/10, 08/13/10, 04/15/11, 05/19/11, 01/02/12, and 01/05/12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maz Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 They say the definition of insanity is doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different result, so I'm just gonna keep the old "bad apples spoiling the bunch" stuff to myself this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zpqmaowl Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 John Forslund is extremely overrated. the worst helmets design to me is the Jacksonville jaguars hamlets from 1995 to 2012 because you can't see the logo vary wall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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