NFL Merry-Go-Round: Relocation Roundelay

[MJWalker45]

1 hour ago, McCall said:

I meant, would San Antonio be bitter that they were not getting the team and therefore not let them use the Alamodome on a temporary basis?

Definitely. If they aren't keeping the team they'd want to be paid like they were instead of footing the bill.

[GDAWG]

2 hours ago, schlim said:

If I remember correctly, UT put up harsh resistance to a USL?potential MLS team from using its soccer stadium (a field with bleachers), I'd imagine there's 0% chance UT would let their football stadium be used for an NFL team, no matter how short/long the stay. Also, good luck finding land to build a football stadium in Austin. May as well put it in Waco or San Antonio, its the closest its getting to being inside the city limits.

But congrats Austin, on becoming the next Major League Bridesmaid!

 

Austin is already in the Major Leagues.....if you consider MLS as a major league.

[schlim]

57 minutes ago, GDAWG said:

 

if you consider MLS as a major league.

I guess MLS is a grey area in my mind.

[Ferdinand Cesarano]

59 minutes ago, GDAWG said:

Austin is already in the Major Leagues.....if you consider MLS as a major league.

 

As we all should do.  The top ten highest-valued MLS teams rank alongside the bottom ten NHL teams.  The overlap is here, and it will only continue.   There is no more "big four"; it's the "big five" now.

[FiddySicks]

15 hours ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said:

 

As we all should do.  The top ten highest-valued MLS teams rank alongside the bottom ten NHL teams.  The overlap is here, and it will only continue.   There is no more "big four"; it's the "big five" now.

That probably says a lot more about the NHL than it does MLS. We’re probably closer to having a “big three”. 

[DG_ThenNowForever]

43 minutes ago, FiddySicks said:

That probably says a lot more about the NHL than it does MLS. We’re probably closer to having a “big three”. 

 

On the other hand, NHL is on ESPN now so I think it levels up a bit.

[Ridleylash]

On 8/3/2021 at 11:28 AM, FiddySicks said:

That probably says a lot more about the NHL than it does MLS. We’re probably closer to having a “big three”. 

I'd argue baseball is much more likely to fall off than hockey is, honestly, given the way the sport's audience is shrinking. If they have a lockout, I could see MLB getting crippled.

[Red Comet]

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[Brian in Boston]

Charles Robinson wonders whether Roger Goodell should be trying to convince Jeff Bezos to scratch his NFL itch by launching a London-based expansion franchise, rather than simply buying the next available existing team to hit the market.

There's reason for NFL to fear Jeff Bezos. But it's not big enough to keep him out, especially if London is in play.

[tBBP]

Maybe they can convince Bezos to buy out the Jaguars from Khan N' Em instead...I mean, with the total clownshow that entire ordeal has become from top to bottom, why not??

[neo_prankster]

2 hours ago, Brian in Boston said:

Charles Robinson wonders whether Roger Goodell should be trying to convince Jeff Bezos to scratch his NFL itch by launching a London-based expansion franchise, rather than simply buying the next available existing team to hit the market.

There's reason for NFL to fear Jeff Bezos. But it's not big enough to keep him out, especially if London is in play.

 

31 minutes ago, tBBP said:

Maybe they can convince Bezos to buy out the Jaguars from Khan N' Em instead...I mean, with the total clownshow that entire ordeal has become from top to bottom, why not??

 

Wasn't Bezos in the running to buy the Carolina Panthers a couple years back?

 

I think he should just buy the Chargers and bring them back to San Diego. Just saying.

 

Do you really want people in Jacksonville to be mad at the NFL like Baltimore was back in the Eighties?

[SFGiants58]

Jacksonville was a mistake of an expansion. A bunch of NFL execs got wooed by the promise of the expansion committee, not seeing the issues with the place. Green Bay comparisons and the WFL/USFL support does not exactly translate to NFL prominence.

[neo_prankster]

Also, is an NFL move to London really going to be celebrated the same way the Giants and Dodgers' shift to the West Coast was back in 1958?

Once you bring a team to London, there's gonna be a whole lot of smaller markets that are gonna go the way of Syracuse, Rochester, Quebec City and Hartford. Do you really want that?

[neo_prankster]

3 minutes ago, SFGiants58 said:

Jacksonville was a mistake of an expansion. A bunch of NFL execs got wooed by the promise of the expansion committee, not seeing the issues with the place. Green Bay comparisons and the WFL/USFL support does not exactly translate to NFL prominence.

 

But even if you gave Baltimore or St. Louis an expansion team over Jacksonville in the 90's, would that have stopped Art Modell from moving the Browns?

[sky1324]

7 minutes ago, neo_prankster said:

 

But even if you gave Baltimore or St. Louis an expansion team over Jacksonville in the 90's, would that have stopped Art Modell from moving the Browns?

If Baltimore gets an expansion team, then that stops them from being moved to Baltimore. Those Browns were gone, no matter what.

 

And no, Bezos was not in the running to buy the Panthers.

[neo_prankster]

Wasn't Bezos rumored to be interested in the Broncos not too long ago?

[MJWalker45]

14 minutes ago, QCS said:

If Baltimore gets an expansion team, then that stops them from being moved to Baltimore. Those Browns were gone, no matter what.

 

And no, Bezos was not in the running to buy the Panthers.

The Browns bolted because of the deal Baltimore gave them. Could Jacksonville offer the same? Would any other city be willing to do that? The Oilers were actually in worse shape than the Browns but the NFL was at a point where they wanted to see what could work in new places. 

30 minutes ago, SFGiants58 said:

Jacksonville was a mistake of an expansion. A bunch of NFL execs got wooed by the promise of the expansion committee, not seeing the issues with the place. Green Bay comparisons and the WFL/USFL support does not exactly translate to NFL prominence.

I don't think it's been a mistake. They had initial success, but then they've been middling for quite  awhile. There are plenty of teams in the NFL that have done the same, they just have more longevity and history to back them up. The Jets are a great example of that, as well as the current Browns. 

[sky1324]

21 minutes ago, MJWalker45 said:

The Browns bolted because of the deal Baltimore gave them. Could Jacksonville offer the same? Would any other city be willing to do that? The Oilers were actually in worse shape than the Browns but the NFL was at a point where they wanted to see what could work in new places. 

Not necessarily, the Browns were having trouble with their stadium and Modell had considered relocation even before receiving Baltimore's offer. The offer certainly helped, but it wasn't the only reason the Browns moved.

[The_Admiral]

"Las Vegas Jaguars" would have had a nice ring to it. In a better world than ours, the Raiders stay in Oakland at the eleventh hour and the Jags slip over instead. I would prefer for teams never to move, of course, but Jacksonville, like the Rams moving to St. Louis, was a mistake to begin with. 

 

Turn the teal to steel and they'd line up with the Golden Knights:

[kolob]

1 hour ago, neo_prankster said:

Wasn't Bezos rumored to be interested in the Broncos not too long ago?