NJTank Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Its the Bart Railway it is an underachiever and proud of it. Its the Bart Railway it is an underachiever and proud of it. Quote www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Guys this is a fascinating conversation. But WTF does it have to do with the Phoenix Coyotes?Phoenix has great PT IMO, but they were stupid enough to put the Coyotes as far away from reasonable PT as they possibly could. It's been said before, but squeezing them into the U.S. Airways Center with bad sightlines would've still been better than moving them to that spacious covered parking lot in Afghanistan. It would be comparable to moving the Golden State Warriors to Lodi or Stockton. Or Gilroy (If you want to get nit picky about location). Quote On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illwauk Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 The Simpsons did two golden age episodes on inherently flawed urban renewal schemes and we didn't heed either one.Marge vs. The Monorail and what was the other one?$pringfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted March 25, 2013 Author Share Posted March 25, 2013 Whether the logistics of America West were better is immaterial; the Coyotes weren't economically viable as a tenant of the Suns. Of course, they aren't economically viable with a master lease, either, because they just went from not collecting their parking revenue to not having parking revenue, but let's not perpetuate this canard that the team would've been just fine if they had stayed downtown and closer to their alleged power base in Scottsdale. They were losing millions of dollars a year downtown to the point of possible relocation (Portland) there, too. Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coast2CoastAM2006 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 speaking of PT, monorails and shysters...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEZjzsnPhnw Quote Spoilers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sport Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 The Simpsons did two golden age episodes on inherently flawed urban renewal schemes and we didn't heed either one.Marge vs. The Monorail and what was the other one?$pringfieldOf course. Duh.Every time I drive by the new, big, ugly, down-town casino in Cincinnati I think about that episode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanB06 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 And now for some actual news:Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger24mNHL will continue to meet prospective buyers, but it's clear time is running out and relocation must be considered.in regard to the Coyotes. Quebec City, you're on the clock! Quote Sodboy13 said: As you watch more basketball, you will learn to appreciate the difference between "defense" and "couldn't find the rim with a pair of bloodhounds and a Garmin." meet the new page, not the same as the old page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodboy13 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Anything coming from Darren Dreger regarding league operations may as well come from the league's press office. Bill Daly's probably scrubbing Dreger's breakfast off his hand right now.This is the last, desperate gasp. We really should have a party if they finally bite it. Quote On 1/25/2013 at 1:53 PM, 'Atom said: For all the bird de lis haters I think the bird de lis isnt supposed to be a pelican and a fleur de lis I think its just a fleur de lis with a pelicans head. Thats what it looks like to me. Also the flair around the tip of the beak is just flair that fleur de lis have sometimes source I am from NOLA. PotD: 10/19/07, 08/25/08, 07/22/10, 08/13/10, 04/15/11, 05/19/11, 01/02/12, and 01/05/12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted March 28, 2013 Author Share Posted March 28, 2013 Oh yeah, we're emptying the strategic .gif reserve if it finally happens (and if CS85 hasn't emptied it already) Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted March 28, 2013 Author Share Posted March 28, 2013 And just like that it's been leaked that some Canadian named George Gosbee is the newest potential savior. The Ice Edge guys are being talked about as minority investors. They always are. Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodboy13 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 George Gosbee is the newest potential savior.And I'll take Rose Marie to block, Peter.Seriously, what intelligent Canadian businessman wouldn't buy a hockey team to keep it in Arizona when it was on the verge of moving to Canada? Quote On 1/25/2013 at 1:53 PM, 'Atom said: For all the bird de lis haters I think the bird de lis isnt supposed to be a pelican and a fleur de lis I think its just a fleur de lis with a pelicans head. Thats what it looks like to me. Also the flair around the tip of the beak is just flair that fleur de lis have sometimes source I am from NOLA. PotD: 10/19/07, 08/25/08, 07/22/10, 08/13/10, 04/15/11, 05/19/11, 01/02/12, and 01/05/12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted March 28, 2013 Author Share Posted March 28, 2013 Now my guess is he swoops in at the last minute, they need all summer to hash a deal out, old people file lawsuits, and they play a fifth year under league ownership. Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troy_3223 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Aaron Ward @aaronward_nhl2hFurther to @DarrenDreger #PHX relocation.NHLPA source,expect decision to come before start of playoffs.Gone is Glendale $25M subsidy. #TSNJust saw this on the twitter-box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOldRoman Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 I knew that the new regime in Glendale took the gigantic subsidies to the new owner off the table, but I wasn't certain if the $25 mil a year welfare check to the league would continue. If that is off the table, I think the Coyotes are gone for sure. We know that Bettman has his foolish pride, but I can't see him (and the owners) throwing more money into the fire now that there is no light at the end of the tunnel in Glendale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HedleyLamarr Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 And just like that it's been leaked that some Canadian named George Gosbee is the newest potential savior. The Ice Edge guys are being talked about as minority investors. They always are.Phoenix's version of "The Balkan"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosrs1 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 I knew that the new regime in Glendale took the gigantic subsidies to the new owner off the table, but I wasn't certain if the $25 mil a year welfare check to the league would continue. If that is off the table, I think the Coyotes are gone for sure. We know that Bettman has his foolish pride, but I can't see him (and the owners) throwing more money into the fire now that there is no light at the end of the tunnel in Glendale.They're also exploring having someone else manage the arena other than a hockey team. Seems to me they're setting up the writing to be on the wall.http://www.azcentral.com/community/glendale/articles/20130326glendale-oks-hiring-firm-handle-arena-talks.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zpqmaowl Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 John Shannon@JSportsnetTo all those asking, the goal of Gosbee and his Investors is to keep the Coyotes in Glendale. #norelocation Quote the worst helmets design to me is the Jacksonville jaguars hamlets from 1995 to 2012 because you can't see the logo vary wall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted March 28, 2013 Author Share Posted March 28, 2013 And just like that it's been leaked that some Canadian named George Gosbee is the newest potential savior. The Ice Edge guys are being talked about as minority investors. They always are.Phoenix's version of "The Balkan"?No, this guy's money appears to be legitimate. I just don't understand why the Ice Edge guys are still being allowed to hang around. They've glommed onto Hulsizer, Jamison, and now this guy, and every bid they're involved with fails. Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee. Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Worst. Investors. Ever. Quote Welcome to DrunjFlix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 George Gosbee is the newest potential savior.And I'll take Rose Marie to block, Peter.Seriously, what intelligent Canadian businessman wouldn't buy a hockey team to keep it in Arizona when it was on the verge of moving to Canada?I love a good conspiracy theory, so bear with me. If Gosbee buys the team right now to keep it in Glendale, he's the only one in line. He buys the team for maybe $100M or so? Say he absorbs $150M in losses over the next 5-6 years; that brings you to $250M invested, and then he can do the whole song and dance about how he tried to make it work and blah blah blah and move the team then (maybe by then Gary Bettman will have accidentally exposed himself to the Sun and vaporized). Now imagine if the NHL put the Coyotes up for auction and said, "Quebec, Saskatoon, Seattle, Vegas... wherever you want to move 'em, go crazy." I think you'd get at least $250M-$300M for the team in that situation and there'd obviously be multiple bidders... you're not guaranteed to come out of it with a team. Gosbee is only in his mid-40's, so he has plenty of time to see this plan through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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