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Ainge is great at getting picks, but so damn stingy with them too. Kyrie is the only time I can recall where he traded a high value pick. 

But he had a lot of great chances to trade them for players and refused. 

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Brogdon is a good player but a potentially bad cultural fit in Boston (the city, not the franchise) for reasons that will trip the mods' shotgun booby trap.

 

The Gobert trade is f***ing AWFUL. He's basically Dikembe Mutombo, and at no point in his career was Mutombo ever worth five first rounders and useful on-court players, probably not even half of such a package, and that was back when the game was tilted in favor of guys like him. Gobert gets played off the court on a regular basis because he can't shoot. And that's before getting into the fact that the Wolves already have Towns. They're now paying two different big men an obscene amount of money in an era where you don't necessarily even need one on the court at all times. I will cap off this hacky WalterFootball blog post by awarding this trade a MILLEN.

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10 hours ago, Digby said:


Lmao I forgot about this angle. Hope y’all get more Jayson Tatum than JaJuan Johnson, Aaron Nesmith, Carsten Edwards, Tremont Waters……


In all honesty, you bring up a really great point; they’ve got to make those picks count, whether by picking the right players or using them as trade assets for good returns. So we definitely won’t know the impact of these picks - good or bad - until they’re used, of course. But this deal at least puts the Jazz in a much, much better position asset-wise than they were yesterday morning, and that’s got me feeling optimistic over the possibilities.

 

One quick thought I’ve been stewing over since yesterday: Jarred Vanderbilt is a better piece of this deal than I think he’s getting credit for. He’s not helping the Jazz with shooting by any means, but a long, versatile, switchable defender that can guard all five positions (and a very good one at that) is something the Jazz have desperately needed. Depending on what other moves the Jazz make to finish out the roster (there’s rumors of more deals incoming and potentially getting in on Ayton), Vanderbilt may end up being a really solid pickup in the greater scheme of things.

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3 hours ago, EskimoAldus said:

Are they really going to kill NBA basketball in Salt Lake City?🤦


Nah, I’m honestly not panicking at all. As much as I’ve enjoyed this Jazz core of players, big changes needed to happen. They weren’t going any farther than they already had, and I really feel like they just weren’t built right as a team after all. It’s better for them to reset and get value back where they can, rather than to keep making futile runs with this core.

 

It could possibly be a bumpy couple of years, but I’m honestly fine with it if they build into a team that’s better positioned to win in the future. I’ll also fully admit that it’s kind of nice as a fan to not have high expectations for them right now, it’s far less stressful to be a Jazz fan today than it was the past couple of seasons for sure.

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Boston has made all the right moves in adding serious pieces to form a championship squad.

 

The Gobert trade for Minny is brutal. The amount they gave away for him picks included, and the fact that it's Rudy Gobert, he's not worth nearly that much.

 

What comes to the amusement park comparison, I don't see it that way, since, as a fan, you're emotionally invested in one franchise and want to see it have the best opportunities to succeed going forward too. You could go to any amusement park and enjoy it as much or even more than your local one, and not have any attachment to it in principle.

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56 minutes ago, EskimoAldus said:

More KD rumors spreading. Back to the Warriors? It's known in some Bay Area circles that Lacob loves KD and wants him to finish his career there. 

No way without some serious reconciliation between him and green

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1 hour ago, dont care said:

No way without some serious reconciliation between him and green


That’s easy… just bring back KD and send Green packing.  Green is mostly done anyway.

 

 I don’t think there’s any way it happens but I would love to see it.  Just to watch the heads explode, if nothing else. 

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6 hours ago, dont care said:

No way without some serious reconciliation between him and green


Actually, I kind of think him and Draymond may be just fine. Dray has spent a good amount of time recently kissing KD’s ass, and that seems to basically be the only thing KD really wants. I definitely won’t feel the same about him coming as I did the first time, but, :censored: it. Why not? 🤷‍♂️ Go for six. 

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On 7/3/2022 at 7:07 AM, truepg said:

You could go to any amusement park and enjoy it as much or even more than your local one, and not have any attachment to it in principle.

 

You're sort of making the point, though.

 

I presume you're not a Wolves fan, so you haven't had to endure nearly two decades of (mostly) futility.  So, using this analogy, the Wolves ,to you, are just any amusement park. You have no local attachment to it, so you can look at this trade, like most sports fans with no skin in it, as an armchair GM and assess winners and losers. That's fair, and it's part of the game. I just find it unproductive. 

 

As a Wolves fan, I just see a team taking a big swing. I don't give a damn what they gave up. They're just ensuring me that i'm likely to enjoy this next season more than I enjoyed the last one. Those future picks are just faceless commodities. And if it turns out to be a mistake, big deal. I'm used to them losing. At least we're enjoying the moment. 

 

Another point on this: Not all trades among all markets can be judged equally. Some teams, like the Wolves, aren't going to land any big-name free agents. It's just not going to happen, whether it be the quality of the squad or the location of the team. So they have to give away more to get players of a certain caliber. It's an unfortunate quirk of NBA economics you don't hear as much about in other sports. Location matters, and L.A. and South Beach sound a helluva lot more appealing to a 20-something athlete in the winter than the Twin Cities. 

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4 hours ago, gosioux76 said:

 

You're sort of making the point, though.

 

I presume you're not a Wolves fan, so you haven't had to endure nearly two decades of (mostly) futility.  So, using this analogy, the Wolves ,to you, are just any amusement park. You have no local attachment to it, so you can look at this trade, like most sports fans with no skin in it, as an armchair GM and assess winners and losers. That's fair, and it's part of the game. I just find it unproductive. 

 

As a Wolves fan, I just see a team taking a big swing. I don't give a damn what they gave up. They're just ensuring me that i'm likely to enjoy this next season more than I enjoyed the last one. Those future picks are just faceless commodities. And if it turns out to be a mistake, big deal. I'm used to them losing. At least we're having enjoying the moment. 

 

Another point on this: Not all trades among all markets can be judged equally. Some teams, like the Wolves, aren't going to land any big-name free agents. It's just not going to happen, whether it be the quality of the squad or the location of the team. So they have to give away more to get players of a certain caliber. It's an unfortunate quirk of NBA economics you don't hear as much about in other sports. Location matters, and L.A. and South Beach sound a helluva lot more appealing to a 20-something athlete in the winter than the Twin Cities. 


I'm assessing the Wolves' situation from the point of view of a fan of another similarly "non-desired destination" franchise – the Cavs – that I've been supporting for already 20 years soon. And if that swing won't work, I'm not content with having to settle for keeping on losing and be handicapped for the foreseeable future. I want to see my team have the opportunities to bounce back and put themselves in the best position as soon as possible from there on. Let alone that the draft is an intriguing part of all the fun in its own right that is no less exciting to be engaged in.

 

Another thing is, was Gobert's desire to play for the Wolves a deciding factor in case of this particular trade? Otherwise I don't see how the destination would affect the given up value for him.

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20 minutes ago, Dynasty said:

How are Beal and Lillard still with their current teams? I thought they would've been traded long ago.

 

Dame just signed a $60M/year extension no other team could offer him. That's why.

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