LMU Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 I do see what he's talking about. All look kinda similar. I don't think they look similar at all. Compare the letters A and S (they're used by all four of the teams). They're completely distinct. Similar format though. Just change the colors and font, and it's the exact same thing. New trend's having smaller city name in one color over larger team name in another color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshawaggie Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 OK what dumbass said the unis would be out today? It says they won't be ready until the spring. such harshness, sheesh settle down. @josh_j12 CFA- Fargo Bobcats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braden Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 I'm not surprised.When has a team unveiled their new logo AND uniforms before the next season before the current season hasn't even finished yet.I don't think it's the Cards organizational fault... they were officially unveiling their new identity. Maybe someone misunderstood that identity really just means a logo and not the uniforms.Plus you leave way too much time for Madden 2006 to screw the unis up. I hope to god they don't keep the Broncos numbers on the Bengals'uniforms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacker12 Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 A different look at the helmet and wordmark, and a hat worn by Josh McCown. That logo looks great on a white helmet, but it just doesn't go with a grey facemask. I guess they let him keep the grey mask because they 1) haven't decided on the final helmet design or 2) just simply didn't want to leak it out before the full set became released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacker12 Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 If they throw in gray to the color scheme, I'll be fine with the gray facemask. Otherwise, they need to change it.Anyway, here's an image with the new wordmark partially visible.I tried getting a screen capture of the image from the video, but the image isn't showing up. If Bidwell is saying that they uni's are going to be a cross between the Pats and Bucs, the number could be white with a black pinline and a silver outline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwilbury Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 The fonts are certainly different, but they all have those sharp little jutting serifs (They're the new hotness!)The Cards is similiar to the Seahawks, which is similar to the Texans. The Falcons is similar to the Texans. The Falcons rather look like they cribbed the font from BATMAN FOREVER with some minor changes.So even though they're not the same, they are certainly not distinct enough that the NFL should have allowed them all. The Falcons script is garbage IMO. The funny part is, they had a cool looking script from '97 to '02 but it didn't quite match up with the old school look. Then, they went to the new jerseys which would have worked OK with that newer-old script. But they tossed it in favor of this current boring and ill-fitting wordmark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwilbury Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 Also, I approve of the Cardinals' grey facemask. I don't like the Colts addition of grey facemasks because it was too gimmicky. I don't care for it on the Giants because I can't condone their (re)addition of grey to the scheme in the first place.But, with the Cards, its been there for so long that it just wouldn't seem right without it (at least on a white helmet). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMMF Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 "I've been in Reno for six weeks. Did I miss anything?" -KrustySo what's this about someone getting a new logo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAD! Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 "I've been in Reno for six weeks. Did I miss anything?" -KrustySo what's this about someone getting a new logo? Yeah a thread with over 520 replies and nearly 24 000 hits in four days isn't really all that important I saw, I came, I left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideRight Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 I am not a fan of the grey facemask. I think a white mask would make for a very clean look. Someone mentioned U of Texas and I think that is a good example. The logo on a white helmet with white facemask would be excellent. The grey just doesn't need to be there anymore. Just because in the "olde dayes" they had to use grey doesn't mean they should anymore when it is not a team color. Bugs me on Indy (looks like crap compared to the blue or white they had before) and on the Giants.And I would hate to see the Cardinals add silver as a color. They need to use the 3 colors they already have: Cardinal red, Black and YELLOW. Yellow, not gold, is being seriously underused in the NFL (Chargers, Packers, Chiefs, Steelers) If used as a piping or trim color with the black, it could really work, and it is already in the logo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artvandelay Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 That video was all fluff. They make the Cardinals look like they are the Green Bay Packers or something, like they've had some kind of storied, successful franchise. What a bunch o' crap. I don't have the stats in front of me but I'd be willing to bet that they have one of the losingest francises in NFL history and will probably continue that tradition for years and years to come. Plus the fact that they've played in about 8 different cities. They even showed the scoreboard when they won a wild card birth. Whoopiddy friggin' doo. By the way, I checked my sources and the Cardinals have THE worst winning percentage in NFL history. "...and you want to be my latex salesman." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paynomind Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 Here is a cards helmet that actually looks good...ahhh.. the power of photoshop... it can fix any atrocity. NCFA Sunset Beach Tech - Octopi  ΓΔΒ!  Going to college gets you closer to the real world, kind of like climbing a tree gets you closer to the moon. "...a nice illustration of what you get when skill, talent, and precedent are deducted from 'creativity.' " - James Howard Kunstler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAD! Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 That video was all fluff. They make the Cardinals look like they are the Green Bay Packers or something, like they've had some kind of storied, successful franchise. What a bunch o' crap. I don't have the stats in front of me but I'd be willing to bet that they have one of the losingest francises in NFL history and will probably continue that tradition for years and years to come. Plus the fact that they've played in about 8 different cities. They even showed the scoreboard when they won a wild card birth. Whoopiddy friggin' doo. By the way, I checked my sources and the Cardinals have THE worst winning percentage in NFL history. ... and for a franchise that has been around for over a century, that's really something I saw, I came, I left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 In regard to the gold uniform for the Cardinals, I don't think the Cardinals can wear anything but...cardinal. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paynomind Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 suprised I havent heard about the red mask from King... NCFA Sunset Beach Tech - Octopi  ΓΔΒ!  Going to college gets you closer to the real world, kind of like climbing a tree gets you closer to the moon. "...a nice illustration of what you get when skill, talent, and precedent are deducted from 'creativity.' " - James Howard Kunstler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yh Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 The more I think about the promise of a "revolutionary" change to the uniforms the more I have to wonder about whether they're considering a gold home jersey for their September and October home dates. After all, they did move to a slightly darker shade for the beak color and took deliberate care to point this fact out. Now, this wouldn't be an "alternate" jersey so to speak, but an official "dark" jersey which would be worn during the first half of the season with the red one being worn in November and December. I realize that the NFL has restrictions on alternate jerseys but perhaps theirs a loophole if they can designate more than two jerseys to be "primaries" based upon weather conditions. Yeah, it's a farfetched notion but one I thought I'd share nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyRock Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 That would be really cool - didn't some baseball teams in the best have different jerseys for the seasons? Like... a summer and fall outfit or something? I could be talking about minor leagues, or be totally off base. Regardless, I think that'd be a nice idea. I could see... say the Giants wearing the Red until the end of October and switching over to blue when November hits. New York Jets |3-3| First, AFC EastNew York Mets |74-88| Fourth, NL EastNew York Islanders|34-37-11| Fifth, Atlantic DivisionNew Orleans Hornets |21-45| Third, Southwest Division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logos are cool Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 Anyone know anything of the Giants changing uniforms for next season. I would like to know more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruColor Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 NFL.com updated their banner:It's so small, that it's hard for most people to tell that it's changed. --------------------------------------------^And in case anyone's interested, I put the story up on my site this morning:Arizona Cardinals Unveil New LogoAnd as far as Art's angry rant against the video and the Cardinals themselves - well, sure. The Cardinals have sucked. And have sucked a LOT. And, there's not a whole lot we Cardinal fans can hang our hat on. This is not debatable. However, the team is trying to win over fans and turn the image around, so of course they're going to make an attempt to make the club look more appealing. It's called marketing, and I'm just glad that they're trying for once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjack76 Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 PANTONE, couldn't help but notice that you have the new avatar...and I think the placement of the mark is off. If you look at the helmet picture above, it appears that the cardinals is more upright than horizontal.Could just be me and my 20/450 eyesight.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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