joeyBocook Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 They're being widely criticized for having a sponsor for the supporters group.Not only that, a supporters group named for its sponsor.The sponsored section is for the college student section."The Pride" which is the u official and organic group will sit at the opposite goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Dp The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 That's not what I'm seeing, but hope you're right. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcgd Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I think you're both kinda right. From what I've seen, The Pride is independent but I don't think its "official" like The Legion is. The Legion is the one created by the Front Office and is the Student Section. I don't think a sponsor would pay to be the "other" supporter section. This is me going off tweets and other info like that.I'm just astonished at some of these new teams going in and completely ignoring the formula that has worked nearly every time in new markets. Look at Indy, Jacksonville, Louisville, St. Louis, Detroit, & Chattanooga. (maybe Sacramento, I'm not sure they're unbelievable success is as related to a SG as the others) Every one of them has an organically created supporters group that existed either before or right around the announcement of the team. You can't force things like this. You have to let them develop, then work with them. You make money off them through ticket sales and the experience they bring to the stadium attracting other fans, not by selling naming rights. BTW, even the successful clubs aren't immune to this stupid behavior. The fan created Coastal Cup in Florida now has a sponsor. I will admit, I know Indy has advertising in front of the supporters section, but its not the Brickyard Battalion brought to you by Chatam Tap.The model is established and proven successful. Why anyone thinks they can come in and buy their way in at the lower levels is surprising to me. Maybe it'll work this time, we're still early in development of teams in this country, but I'm not holding my breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyBocook Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I think you're both kinda right. From what I've seen, The Pride is independent but I don't think its "official" like The Legion is. The Legion is the one created by the Front Office and is the Student Section. I don't think a sponsor would pay to be the "other" supporter section. This is me going off tweets and other info like that.I'm just astonished at some of these new teams going in and completely ignoring the formula that has worked nearly every time in new markets. Look at Indy, Jacksonville, Louisville, St. Louis, Detroit, & Chattanooga. (maybe Sacramento, I'm not sure they're unbelievable success is as related to a SG as the others) Every one of them has an organically created supporters group that existed either before or right around the announcement of the team. You can't force things like this. You have to let them develop, then work with them. You make money off them through ticket sales and the experience they bring to the stadium attracting other fans, not by selling naming rights. BTW, even the successful clubs aren't immune to this stupid behavior. The fan created Coastal Cup in Florida now has a sponsor. I will admit, I know Indy has advertising in front of the supporters section, but its not the Brickyard Battalion brought to you by Chatam Tap.The model is established and proven successful. Why anyone thinks they can come in and buy their way in at the lower levels is surprising to me. Maybe it'll work this time, we're still early in development of teams in this country, but I'm not holding my breath. I agree, however, I think the main difference is that they are trying to get a foothold in a demographic that will be turned upside down every 4 years: college kids. So the organic fan culture "The Pride" will mostly be early adopters and people who live in the area and root for the team and "Legion" will be college kids from UC, Xavier, etc. I agree that you want it to be grassroots (I'm a member of Section 904 here in JAX) however, even we have our issues that are being worked out.Sidenote: it'll be super creepy when they begin to chant "We are legion". Creepiness of biblical proportions.Also, sponsoring the student section probably keeps costs down for season tickets so that more college kids will show up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyBocook Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 https://twitter.com/ThePrideCincy/status/651914659495301120For what it's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I think you're both kinda right. From what I've seen, The Pride is independent but I don't think its "official" like The Legion is. The Legion is the one created by the Front Office and is the Student Section. I don't think a sponsor would pay to be the "other" supporter section. This is me going off tweets and other info like that.I'm just astonished at some of these new teams going in and completely ignoring the formula that has worked nearly every time in new markets. Look at Indy, Jacksonville, Louisville, St. Louis, Detroit, & Chattanooga. (maybe Sacramento, I'm not sure they're unbelievable success is as related to a SG as the others) Every one of them has an organically created supporters group that existed either before or right around the announcement of the team. You can't force things like this. You have to let them develop, then work with them. You make money off them through ticket sales and the experience they bring to the stadium attracting other fans, not by selling naming rights. BTW, even the successful clubs aren't immune to this stupid behavior. The fan created Coastal Cup in Florida now has a sponsor. I will admit, I know Indy has advertising in front of the supporters section, but its not the Brickyard Battalion brought to you by Chatam Tap.The model is established and proven successful. Why anyone thinks they can come in and buy their way in at the lower levels is surprising to me. Maybe it'll work this time, we're still early in development of teams in this country, but I'm not holding my breath. I agree, however, I think the main difference is that they are trying to get a foothold in a demographic that will be turned upside down every 4 years: college kids. So the organic fan culture "The Pride" will mostly be early adopters and people who live in the area and root for the team and "Legion" will be college kids from UC, Xavier, etc. I agree that you want it to be grassroots (I'm a member of Section 904 here in JAX) however, even we have our issues that are being worked out.Sidenote: it'll be super creepy when they begin to chant "We are legion". Creepiness of biblical proportions.Also, sponsoring the student section probably keeps costs down for season tickets so that more college kids will show up.Nippert Stadium is one of the minority of college stadiums which sell beer and their renovation added a beer garden. These teams are just embracing the minor league baseball model of cheap tix with student ID as a cover charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patsox Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Does anyone else see the Orange Bowl mascot when looking at the FC Cincinnati logo at first glance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyBocook Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Does anyone else see the Orange Bowl mascot when looking at the FC Cincinnati logo at first glance?Not sure I see that, but I do see a sub-par logo. Maybe they are saving their better logo for an invite to MLS...that has to be the explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJWalker45 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Nope. Don't see it. I do see a lazy attempt at designing the uniforms.There are better options in the teambuilder design than these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-kj Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Ah, the not-quite-bomb-pops. Nike really screwed those up when they made them teamwear. Buy some t-shirts and stuff at KJ Shop! KJ Branded | Behance portfolio POTD 2013-08-22 On 7/14/2012 at 2:20 AM, tajmccall said: When it comes to style, ya'll really should listen to Kev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Needschat Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I still think Nike should do a Purple (mountains majesty) and Amber (waves of grain) US alternate Oh what could have been.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 How much of a "defining event" in US Soccer history is USA/Mexico tonight?And who is going to see it at the movies?http://www.fathomevents.com/event/usa-v-mexico Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 So, is the Klinsmann era done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordsketor Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 The Klinsmann Era was done when they lost that Gold Cup Semifinal to Jamaica.... Many thanks to Discrimihater for making the sig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashcarson15 Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 The Klinsmann era isn’t done because the USSF is a complete farce of an organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 I hope the Guzan era is done. 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashcarson15 Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 I hope the Guzan era is done.I’d love to hear your explanation for why Mexico’s first two goals are on Guzan, and not miserable defending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GFB Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 I know this loss looks bad, but hey, we're getting black jerseys soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJWalker45 Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Seeing as the US actually fought back twice they look way better than they did at the Gold Cup. The biggest lossvtoday was thr U-23's losing to Honduras. Another Olympics missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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