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Florida should be in the Atlantic. The formatting was messed up. Thanks for pointing that out, don't want to give the NHL any ideas!

"I did absolutely nothing and it was everything I thought it could be." -Peter Gibbons

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NHL 2013

Pacific Midwest Northeast Atlantic

CAL WIN TOR NYR

EDM MIN MON NYI

VAN CHI OTT NJ

SJ DET BUF PHI

LA STL BOS WAS

ANA DAL PIT CAR

PHX NAS CLB TB

COL FLA

Top 4 in each division make playoffs.

I don't think it's fair when the divisions have unequal number of teams.

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Play everyone outside of your division 2x. Division foes are 5 or 6 times depending on division size.

That's a difference of 3 games, depending on your division. If you're in an 8-team division, you'd play 77 games, while in a 7-team division, you'd play 80.

How I got there:

8-team: 2 x 21 = 42. 5 x 7 = 35. 42 + 35 = 77.

7-team: 2 x 22 = 44. 6 x 6 = 36. 44 + 36 = 80.

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7-team divisions

6*6 36

23*2 46

82

8-team divisions

division 38

4 teams 5x, 3 teams 6x

22*2 44

82

Yes it's not the most balanced, but it does help teams like Detroit and Columbus who would only have to play 8 games more than one time zone away. The rest of their road games would start at 7 or 8 et. This would keep them from whining as much about staying in the West, which I think they both would have to do if Phoenix moves to Quebec. And if Phoneix moves East, they only have to play 7 games in the Pacific time zone.

Of course, what I think would be easier would be to stay with 6 divisions and move to an NBA model of scheduling:

-2 games against other conference=30

-4 games against divisional teams=16

-remainder of games against intraconference teams=36 (some would be 3x, some 4x, on a rotating basis)

This would give CBJ and DET 13 games in the pacific time zone, give or take, depending on what intraconference teams they are playing 4x that year.

The drawback to the NBA model is playing your divisional rivals less times.

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http://aol.sportingnews.com/nhl/story/2011-07-07/minnesota-wild-owner-hints-at-possible-division-alteration

Speaking on radio station KFAN in Minneapolis, Leipold linked his team to a Central Division group that smacks of the old Norris Division, back when the groupings had historic names rather than geographical reference.

?Our division would include the Winnipeg Jets, (the Wild), the Blues, the Nashville Predators, the Dallas Stars, the [Chicago] Blackhawks and maybe the Columbus Blue Jackets," Leipold said, according to CSNChicago.com. "Maybe not, depending on if they go east or west. I?m all in favor of that. I think it?s a grand slam, home run, hat trick for our team.?

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I'll throw in my 2¢ now...

MLB 20XX

American League

ATLANTIC

NY Yankees

NY Mets

Philadelphia Phillies

Boston Red Sox

Toronto Blue Jays

Brooklyn Atlantics

CENTRAL

Pittsburgh Pirates

Detroit Tigers

Cleveland Indians

Cincinatti Reds

Minnesota Twins

Louisville Grays

MIDWEST

St. Louis Cardinals

Chicago Cubs

Chicago White Sox

Milwaukee Brewers

Kansas City Royals

Indianapolis Arrows

National League

SOUTHEAST

Miami Marlins

Tampa Bay Rays

Atlanta Braves

Baltimore Orioles

Washington Nationals

Birmingham Yellowhammers

WEST

Texas Rangers

Houston Astros

Colorado Rockies

Arizona Diamondbacks

CD Guadalajara

Club América (Mexico City)

PACIFIC

Los Angeles Dodgers

Los Angeles Angels

Oakland Athletics

San Francisco Giants

San Diego Padres

Seattle Mariners

This idea came from a news story I read a while ago concerning the reallignment issue. I can't prove this to be true, but in part of the story it said that Selig said that next time MLB expands, it would likely be in Latin America.

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I'll throw in my 2¢ now...

MLB 20XX

American League

ATLANTIC

NY Yankees

NY Mets

Philadelphia Phillies

Boston Red Sox

Toronto Blue Jays

Brooklyn Atlantics

CENTRAL

Pittsburgh Pirates

Detroit Tigers

Cleveland Indians

Minnesota Twins

Louisville Grays

MIDWEST

St. Louis Cardinals

Chicago Cubs

Chicago White Sox

Milwaukee Brewers

Kansas City Royals

Indianapolis Arrows

National League

SOUTHEAST

Miami Marlins

Tampa Bay Rays

Atlanta Braves

Baltimore Orioles

Washington Nationals

Birmingham Yellowhammers

WEST

Texas Rangers

Houston Astros

Colorado Rockies

Arizona Diamondbacks

CD Guadalajara

Club América (Mexico City)

PACIFIC

Los Angeles Dodgers

Los Angeles Angels

Oakland Athletics

San Francisco Giants

San Diego Padres

Seattle Mariners

This idea came from a news story I read a while ago concerning the reallignment issue. I can't prove this to be true, but in part of the story it said that Selig said that next time MLB expands, it would likely be in Latin America.

That doesn't explain why you have so many teams switching leagues. It's not even set up east-west so that many swaps is really unnecessary.

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I'll throw in my 2¢ now...

MLB 20XX

American League

ATLANTIC

NY Yankees

NY Mets

Philadelphia Phillies

Boston Red Sox

Toronto Blue Jays

Brooklyn Atlantics

CENTRAL

Pittsburgh Pirates

Detroit Tigers

Cleveland Indians

Minnesota Twins

Louisville Grays

MIDWEST

St. Louis Cardinals

Chicago Cubs

Chicago White Sox

Milwaukee Brewers

Kansas City Royals

Indianapolis Arrows

National League

SOUTHEAST

Miami Marlins

Tampa Bay Rays

Atlanta Braves

Baltimore Orioles

Washington Nationals

Birmingham Yellowhammers

WEST

Texas Rangers

Houston Astros

Colorado Rockies

Arizona Diamondbacks

CD Guadalajara

Club América (Mexico City)

PACIFIC

Los Angeles Dodgers

Los Angeles Angels

Oakland Athletics

San Francisco Giants

San Diego Padres

Seattle Mariners

This idea came from a news story I read a while ago concerning the reallignment issue. I can't prove this to be true, but in part of the story it said that Selig said that next time MLB expands, it would likely be in Latin America.

That doesn't explain why you have so many teams switching leagues. It's not even set up east-west so that many swaps is really unnecessary.

It's based on geography, hence the renamed divisions. Sorry for confusing you. Maybe this pill is too "radical" for some to swallow?

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I'll throw in my 2¢ now...

MLB 20XX

American League

ATLANTIC

NY Yankees

NY Mets

Philadelphia Phillies

Boston Red Sox

Toronto Blue Jays

Brooklyn Atlantics

CENTRAL

Pittsburgh Pirates

Detroit Tigers

Cleveland Indians

Minnesota Twins

Louisville Grays

MIDWEST

St. Louis Cardinals

Chicago Cubs

Chicago White Sox

Milwaukee Brewers

Kansas City Royals

Indianapolis Arrows

National League

SOUTHEAST

Miami Marlins

Tampa Bay Rays

Atlanta Braves

Baltimore Orioles

Washington Nationals

Birmingham Yellowhammers

WEST

Texas Rangers

Houston Astros

Colorado Rockies

Arizona Diamondbacks

CD Guadalajara

Club América (Mexico City)

PACIFIC

Los Angeles Dodgers

Los Angeles Angels

Oakland Athletics

San Francisco Giants

San Diego Padres

Seattle Mariners

This idea came from a news story I read a while ago concerning the reallignment issue. I can't prove this to be true, but in part of the story it said that Selig said that next time MLB expands, it would likely be in Latin America.

That doesn't explain why you have so many teams switching leagues. It's not even set up east-west so that many swaps is really unnecessary.

It's based on geography, hence the renamed divisions. Sorry for confusing you. Maybe this pill is too "radical" for some to swallow?

The "NL" stretches from coast to coast. Plus you have 17 teams in one league and 18 inthe other. Doesn't even fall under the reasons of the current 16/14 split. Seems like you just randomly made up teams and alignments.

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I'll throw in my 2¢ now...

MLB 20XX

American League

ATLANTIC

NY Yankees

NY Mets

Philadelphia Phillies

Boston Red Sox

Toronto Blue Jays

Brooklyn Atlantics

CENTRAL

Pittsburgh Pirates

Detroit Tigers

Cleveland Indians

Cincinatti Reds

Minnesota Twins

Louisville Grays

MIDWEST

St. Louis Cardinals

Chicago Cubs

Chicago White Sox

Milwaukee Brewers

Kansas City Royals

Indianapolis Arrows

National League

SOUTHEAST

Miami Marlins

Tampa Bay Rays

Atlanta Braves

Baltimore Orioles

Washington Nationals

Birmingham Yellowhammers

WEST

Texas Rangers

Houston Astros

Colorado Rockies

Arizona Diamondbacks

CD Guadalajara

Club América (Mexico City)

PACIFIC

Los Angeles Dodgers

Los Angeles Angels

Oakland Athletics

San Francisco Giants

San Diego Padres

Seattle Mariners

This idea came from a news story I read a while ago concerning the reallignment issue. I can't prove this to be true, but in part of the story it said that Selig said that next time MLB expands, it would likely be in Latin America.

That doesn't explain why you have so many teams switching leagues. It's not even set up east-west so that many swaps is really unnecessary.

It's based on geography, hence the renamed divisions. Sorry for confusing you. Maybe this pill is too "radical" for some to swallow?

The "NL" stretches from coast to coast. Plus you have 17 teams in one league and 18 inthe other. Doesn't even fall under the reasons of the current 16/14 split. Seems like you just randomly made up teams and alignments.

Damn, you're right. I totally forgot the Reds. How did that happen? :P

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Time for my take on some realignment.

MLB

With the line between the leagues being blurred farther and farther every day, the time has come to take out the old and once timeless names for something that makes sense. Let me introduce to you Seadragon's MLB Realignment...

Eastern Conference

Northeast Division

Boston Red Sox

New York Mets

New York Yankees

Philadelphia Phillies

Toronto Blue Jays

Atlantic Division

Baltimore Orioles

Cincinnati Reds

Cleveland Indians

Pittsburgh Pirates

Washington Nationals

Southeast Division

Atlanta Braves

Houston Astros

Miami Marlins

Tampa Bay Rays

Texas Rangers

Western Conference

Midwest Division

Chicago Cubs

Chicago White Sox

Detroit Tigers

Milwaukee Brewers

St. Louis Cardinals

Mountain Division

Arizona Diamondbacks

Colorado Rockies

Minnesota Twins

Kansas City Royals

San Diego Padres

Pacific Division

Anaheim Angels

Los Angeles Dodgers

Oakland Athletics

San Francisco Giants

Seattle Mariners

Schedule Format:

-55 games against divisional foes (5 3-game series [3 at Team A, 2 at Team B], 1 2-game series [at Team B])

-60 games against the two remaining divisions (4 3-game series [2 at Team A, 2 at Team B])

-45 games against the other conference (1 3-game series)

 

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Time for my take on some realignment.

MLB

With the line between the leagues being blurred farther and farther every day, the time has come to take out the old and once timeless names for something that makes sense. Let me introduce to you Seadragon's MLB Realignment...

Eastern Conference

Northeast Division

Boston Red Sox

New York Mets

New York Yankees

Philadelphia Phillies

Toronto Blue Jays

Atlantic Division

Baltimore Orioles

Cincinnati Reds

Cleveland Indians

Pittsburgh Pirates

Washington Nationals

Southeast Division

Atlanta Braves

Houston Astros

Miami Marlins

Tampa Bay Rays

Texas Rangers

Western Conference

Midwest Division

Chicago Cubs

Chicago White Sox

Detroit Tigers

Milwaukee Brewers

St. Louis Cardinals

Mountain Division

Arizona Diamondbacks

Colorado Rockies

Minnesota Twins

Kansas City Royals

San Diego Padres

Pacific Division

Anaheim Angels

Los Angeles Dodgers

Oakland Athletics

San Francisco Giants

Seattle Mariners

Schedule Format:

-55 games against divisional foes (5 3-game series [3 at Team A, 2 at Team B], 1 2-game series [at Team B])

-60 games against the two remaining divisions (4 3-game series [2 at Team A, 2 at Team B])

-45 games against the other conference (1 3-game series)

I'm sorry, but no. Most of the powerhouse teams in the MLB lie on the East Coast right now (Spankees, Red Sox, Rays, Phillies) so the Eastern Conference would dominate to the point where it wouldn't even be worth watching the western half of the league anymore.

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What's not to say that the Yankees actually have a bad year, or the Red Sox or the Rays?

I understand the problem, but I'm not going to blow this idea up because of someone being worried about the power in the East.

 

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What's not to say that the Yankees actually have a bad year, or the Red Sox or the Rays?

I understand the problem, but I'm not going to blow this idea up because of someone being worried about the power in the East.

I'd just say blow up for the pure reason that it's just not a good idea. There's just too many odd seperations and alignments (KC, COL, SD, AZ, MIN as a division?)

And the scheduling leaves something to be desired.

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The problem is trying to get a good divisional format while trying to attain some sort of geographic sense. Minnesota was the oddball in the first attempt largely because of their location. They are farther away from the other Central based teams. I may have to tweak it so that it would look better.

As for the schedule: I think 160 games is a nice even number. Why 162 games? 160 is good enough, but I may tweak it to try and make it work better.

 

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