infrared41 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 hour ago, NicDB said: There is the matter of two hockey teams that played a grand total of six seasons in Richfield. I'm not sure I've ever read anything in-depth on either one that didn't cite the Coliseum's location as a major reason for their failure. Cleveland has had more hockey teams than I can remember. AHL, WHA, NHL, IHL, and back to AHL. None of them have been particularly successful. It's not the Coliseum's fault that hockey has never worked here. That aside, I think the WHA's Crusaders, a team in a league that wasn't the NHL, averaged about 6,500 a game in their short tenure at the Coliseum because they were pretty good. At that time, in this area, 6,500 a game for hockey is like getting 35,000 a game for baseball. The Barons 2.0 New NHL Version wouldn't have worked if they had played downtown for free. Whatever the Indoor Soccer League team was supposed to be did well despite the games being played in Richfield. Indoor soccer fans set an attendance record there. I don't think you can use hockey's failure as some sort of proof that the Coliseum was a failure. But what do I know, I was only here for the entire existence of the Richfield Coliseum. Granted, living here and following those teams doesn't give me the same expertise as a Brewers fan who read some articles, but I do think I have some perspective on the matter. 1 Quote All roads lead to Dollar General. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDAWG Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 A bit of news on the Angels AL West foes over in Oakland: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Comet Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Anaheim City Council is getting sued over the very secret sale of underpriced land to the Angels. Who would've thunk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 On 12/22/2019 at 6:02 PM, QCS said: Anaheim Angels > California Angels > Los Angeles Angels > Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. The team doesn't play in Los Angeles. Anaheim is its own distinct city, even if it's within the LA metro. Oakland is part of the San Francisco metro, but it's still its own city. The Angels play in Anaheim, and should represent that fact. How do you feel about Santa Clara 49ers and East Rutherford Giants and Jets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayMac Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 36 minutes ago, sayahh said: How do you feel about Santa Clara 49ers and East Rutherford Giants and Jets? And a D.C. football team that plays in Landover, Maryland? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dfwabel Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 https://www.tampabay.com/news/st-petersburg/2020/01/30/hardball-rays-threaten-to-block-redevelopment-of-tropicana-field/ Quote The Tampa Bay Rays are now playing hardball with the most lucrative piece of property in the city. Rays officials have told City Council members that the team will hold up any attempts to develop the 86-acre Tropicana Field site while its locked into playing at the dome through the 2027 season. That’s what team president Brian Auld conveyed to council members during a spate of rapid-fire meetings held Tuesday and Wednesday, according to two council members. snip Quote The revelation of the Rays’ hardball stance comes the day before what could be a contentious meeting between the City Council members and the Krisemans administration on Thursday about the fate of the Rays and the land underneath the Trop. Council members Amy Foster and Darden Rice both said Auld, in his meetings with them this week, referenced a quote from former St. Petersburg city attorney John Wolfe that appeared in a July 15, 2019 Tampa Bay Times article about the redevelopment of Tropicana Field. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walk-Off Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 https://ballparkdigest.com/2020/02/07/rob-manfred-backs-rays-pursuit-of-split-season-plan/ Commissioner Manfred, have you no shame? I am sorry, but I cannot think of much else to say about the person presumably in charge of the whole of MLB granting an official, public blessing to Sternberg's complexity-inducing, greed-laden, hubris-laden, almost certainly fan-alienating plan for the future of the Rays. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olmec Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 I can only speak for myself but I was close to pulling the trigger on becoming a STM as I found myself genuinely rooting for the Rays the past two seasons and attending more and more games. However after what I've heard the past 24 hours, my support has been officially exhausted. I'll continue spending my money on the Bolts and soon the Vipers instead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Comet Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Walk-Off said: https://ballparkdigest.com/2020/02/07/rob-manfred-backs-rays-pursuit-of-split-season-plan/ Commissioner Manfred, have you no shame? I am sorry, but I cannot think of much else to say about the person presumably in charge of the whole of MLB granting an official, public blessing to Sternberg's complexity-inducting, greed-laden, hubris-laden, almost certainly fan-alienating plan for the future of the Rays. It's not just Manfred: "saying he and MLB team owners view it as a viable plan." What I want to know, is this: Was there anyone in that room who has half a brain? EDIT: Nah, they aren't being stupid. I think they think this is actually going to fly in their markets. Sorry, no one is going to go watch the Omaha-Kansas City Royals. Edited February 8, 2020 by Red Comet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFGiants58 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 It’s because of that lease, trying to find a way around it. Quote MLB: Project 32 (Complete), MLB: The Defunct Saga (Complete) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDAWG Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 The Montreal ExRays of Tampa and (probably soon) the Jacksonville Jaguars of London.......weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Owners want to find ways to support other owners. This isn’t a great surprise, even if it remains a profoundly stupid plan. 1 Quote The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Of course he's going to say that. He has to. Either Tampa will et scarred and pony up for a full-time park, Montreal will get excited and just build something that would allow them to have the team full time, or it actually happens and becomes a case study. I doubt that any of them actually think the split-season thing will work, but the more they support it, the more likely the local gorernments will seize the opportunity to build a new dome stadium. 5 Quote "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDAWG Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 5 hours ago, Walk-Off said: https://ballparkdigest.com/2020/02/07/rob-manfred-backs-rays-pursuit-of-split-season-plan/ Commissioner Manfred, have you no shame? I am sorry, but I cannot think of much else to say about the person presumably in charge of the whole of MLB granting an official, public blessing to Sternberg's complexity-inducting, greed-laden, hubris-laden, almost certainly fan-alienating plan for the future of the Rays. I'm sure the players association will have something to say about that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnWis97 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 It’s still amazing to me that that an expansion team was able to move into that dump with a 30-year lease starting in 1998. That is only three years before contraction talk started and after completion of current ballparks in Cleveland, Baltimore, and Colorado, not to mention the now-defunct park in Arlington.and several high-revenue parks (Houston, Milwaukee, SF, Detroit) were under construction. 3 Quote Disclaimer: If this comment is about an NBA uniform from 2017-2018 or later, do not constitute a lack of acknowledgement of the corporate logo to mean anything other than "the corporate logo is terrible and makes the uniform significantly worse." BADGERS TWINS VIKINGS TIMBERWOLVES WILD POTD (Shared) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 (edited) Tampa mayor Jane Castor and Hillsborough County commissioner meets with Rays/Sternberg for 2.5 hours on Monday. Edited February 10, 2020 by dfwabel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachperroAZ Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 On 10/21/2019 at 8:38 AM, Sport said: Right. When you have a billion dollars you can easily get someone else to give you another billion dollars. That's not the problem. The problem is they want to reap the rewards without paying for it, which is another way they became billionaires in the first place. Also stadiums don't need to cost a billion dollars. Baseball stadium design should be moving more where MLS is now. If you're in a climate like Oakland's you don't need a retractable roof like the Rangers or like you would in Vegas and you don't need 65,000 seats. I'd love to see a major league team take a minor league style design and really trick it out with about 32,000 super intimate seats. This is the direction I want the DBacks to go in here in Arizona. They only sellout Chase Field when there is a World Series or when the Yankees or Red Sox visit. There are good crowds for Cubs, Dodgers and Giants games too but nothing to the extent of a sellout. I think this concept of 32,000 would do well here if they happen to build out on the Salt River Reservation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 On 10/23/2019 at 1:28 AM, Red Comet said: on a garish barely-used contraption That thing was beautiful. Quote PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnPheitseog Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 PNC Park is only 38k and it's perfect. LV should be looking at the same size, as well as the majority of new parks. 1 Quote Formerly known as DiePerske Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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