Stadium/Arena Saga Omnibus

[monkeypower]

11 hours ago, the admiral said:

I'm just here to laugh at "Sportstown." In Anaheim, even the phony-baloney "stadium-adjacent mixed-use development" sounds like a section of a theme park.

 

Just a reminder that the Honda Center expansion/mixed-use development is going to be called ocV!BE... so yeah.

[DEAD!]

It's the ESPN Zone!

[Kevin W.]

2 hours ago, monkeypower said:

ocV!BE

Did no one show them the relevant episodes of South Park?

[FiddySicks]

On 10/29/2022 at 11:09 PM, who do you think said:

> The A's need an alternative because they can't continue to play in the facility they are in.

 

This phrase/sentiment will be old enough to drink pretty soon, if it isn't already.

That phrase/sentiment is nearly as old as I am, and I’m in my mid 30s. 

[WestCoastBias]

Damn, that's a real shame.

 

Hopefully it's Portland not Vegas if the A's do indeed relocate.

[McCall]

8 hours ago, WestCoastBias said:

Damn, that's a real shame.

 

Hopefully it's Portland not Vegas if the A's do indeed relocate.

Not happening. Vegas is way ahead of Portland on the list of desirable locations for relocation or expansion.

[WestCoastBias]

5 hours ago, McCall said:

Not happening. Vegas is way ahead of Portland on the list of desirable locations for relocation or expansion.

 

Yeah, but you never know

[McCall]

1 hour ago, WestCoastBias said:

 

Yeah, but you never know

They've actually been to Las Vegas, met with representatives there and came away happy with the prospect of moving there if things don't work out in Oakland. It's been pretty clear for awhile now that Vegas is their preferred option after Oakland, for both the A's AND MLB.

 

They, nor anyone else, has met with Portland. Portland has actually tumbled down the list of preferred sites for relocation or expansion. Las Vegas, Nashville and Montreal are the top tier choices. Charlotte, Portland and San Antonio/Austin are more than likely in the second tier.

[WestCoastBias]

1 hour ago, McCall said:

They've actually been to Las Vegas, met with representatives there and came away happy with the prospect of moving there if things don't work out in Oakland. It's been pretty clear for awhile now that Vegas is their preferred option after Oakland, for both the A's AND MLB.

 

They, nor anyone else, has met with Portland. Portland has actually tumbled down the list of preferred sites for relocation or expansion. Las Vegas, Nashville and Montreal are the top tier choices. Charlotte, Portland and San Antonio/Austin are more than likely in the second tier.

 

Yeah, but you never know

[Ridleylash]

24 minutes ago, WestCoastBias said:

Yeah, but you never know

Why would they relocate the A's to a market that's 2 hours from Seattle, doesn't have ownership wanting a team there, doesn't have an MLB-ready stadium and wouldn't even be the best option to go to in the Pacific Northwest (that spot goes to Vancouver), when they can go to Vegas and have a team that's in a booming sports market and is relatively close to the Dodgers, Angels, Padres and Diamondbacks?

[FiddySicks]

I think the A’s should build a stadium at the bottom of Lake Mead. They’ll be no less under water than they are now, and they’re really getting in on some prime real estate just a few years early! 

[Burmy]

Still holding out hope for PDX to get a team...I'm sure they're gonna rebuild their buzz once the A's and Rays handle their business and MLB actually announces that expansion is open.

(Maybe I'm just biased because I'm going there in ten days, and it's one of the places I'm considering moving to)

[Dilbert]

Is it too late to consider Charlie O. Finleys idea of a cow pasture in Peculiar, Missouri?

[JayMac]

13 hours ago, Dilbert said:

Is it too late to consider Charlie O. Finleys idea of a cow pasture in Peculiar, Missouri?

Peculiar Athletics has a great ring to it. I like it.

[BBTV]

14 hours ago, Burmy said:

Still holding out hope for PDX to get a team...I'm sure they're gonna rebuild their buzz once the A's and Rays handle their business and MLB actually announces that expansion is open.

(Maybe I'm just biased because I'm going there in ten days, and it's one of the places I'm considering moving to)

 

There has to be an ownership group that wants it, and the appetite to either privately fund a stadium (lol) or for the public to finance it (also lol).  I don't follow PNW sports, but I haven't heard of anyone pursuing anything in Portland like they are in Nashville where there's already either an ownership group or at least a lobbying group with some plan in place (feasible or not) to bring a team there.

[McCall]

1 hour ago, BBTV said:

 

There has to be an ownership group that wants it, and the appetite to either privately fund a stadium (lol) or for the public to finance it (also lol).  I don't follow PNW sports, but I haven't heard of anyone pursuing anything in Portland like they are in Nashville where there's already either an ownership group or at least a lobbying group with some plan in place (feasible or not) to bring a team there.

There have been groups in Portland, but they seem to have died down over the past few years. They're at least not as prominent as Las Vegas/Nashville/Montreal. That's why I put them down with Charlotte and San Antonio-Austin. You have some groups making noise, but nothing substantial that's drawing so hard attention. I could see MLB entertaining those places as potential expansion cities, if nothing else, to use as perceived alternatives to one of the primary choices.

[gosioux76]

On 11/2/2022 at 1:06 PM, McCall said:

There have been groups in Portland, but they seem to have died down over the past few years. They're at least not as prominent as Las Vegas/Nashville/Montreal. That's why I put them down with Charlotte and San Antonio-Austin. You have some groups making noise, but nothing substantial that's drawing so hard attention. I could see MLB entertaining those places as potential expansion cities, if nothing else, to use as perceived alternatives to one of the primary choices.

 

The group that's been lobbying for MLB in Portland the last five years has been little more than a loose-knit group of former local executives who've only identified vanity investors, like Russell Wilson, that don't have the sort of scratch to make it a viable enterprise. They've claimed to have big-money backers, but have never disclosed them. 

 

At this point, all that effort has to show for it is a few wildly speculative stadium renderings and some revenue from hat sales. 

[ltjets21]

On 10/29/2022 at 7:16 PM, Dilbert said:

If they are on their way out of Oakland, when and how would they do it? Will they do what the Raiders did and play a couple lame duck seasons at the Coliseum while a ballpark in Las Vegas is constructed? Will they try to split games between Oakland and Las Vegas (similar to what Montreal did in Puerto Rico) until a new ballpark is built? Will they abandon the Coliseum and try to rent from the Giants until a ballpark is built in Vegas? Will they rent from the Giants and split games in San Francisco and Las Vegas? Will they move to Las Vegas and play at their minor league park until a new ballpark is built? Several options but what is the best?

This should suffice in the meantime. 

[Sec19Row53]

16 hours ago, ltjets21 said:

This should suffice in the meantime. 

Too small and not expandable on that site without taking over existing streets.

[Dilbert]

1 hour ago, Sec19Row53 said:

Too small and not expandable on that site without taking over existing streets.

It could work for a handfull of games, like Montreal did in Puerto Rico. I guess if the Coyotes can do it in a 5,000 seat arena then the A's can do it at a 10,000 seat ballpark.