2020 College Football

[sportsfan7]

4 minutes ago, rams80 said:

 

Indiana clears throat, gives modest death glare.

USC, and unranked Washington and Colorado attempt to do so as well.

[Kramerica Industries]

7 hours ago, See Red said:

Well, who the hell saw that coming?  Florida took Alabama down to the wire.  Just doomed by some poor timeout management.

 

One interesting thing to note is Florida/Alabama is the second game in the last two weeks or so where I saw the unconventional move of a team down 14 going for a 2 pt conversion to cut the lead to six instead of an XP to cut the lead to seven.  The math actually supports going for two there -- especially if you're the underdog and playing to avoid OT -- but football coaches are so risk averse you never see it.  The other team as the Eagles, fwiw.

 

I remember seeing Doug Pederson doing that in the past as well, so it's definitely not a new thing.

 

But while it might be a pro-analytic move, I don't think the analytics say anything about burning a timeout as part of the process. If Dan didn't have a play ready to go, take a delay and kick a slightly longer extra point. The trade-off wasn't worth it even with a successful conversion.

 

Oh, and fire Grantham.

[MJWalker45]

20 hours ago, GDAWG said:

I wonder if Deion Sanders as head coach at Jackson State will mean that the SWAC Champion will be able to qualify for the FCS Playoffs?  I would think that if JSU wins the SWAC while he's the head coach, he would want to be in the FCS playoffs.

Looking at their 2019 schedule, they didn't play a Classic at the end of the year so they would most likely take the playoffs over a later pay day, unless someone pays them and Alcorn who normally took the playoffs over a single pay day when McNair was the QB there. I think Deion's ego will be to prove he is worth considering for a FBS school and he'll want to be in the playoffs to prove he can compete at the higher level. I still don't like he'll continue to work on Barstool projects. 

9 hours ago, See Red said:

Well, who the hell saw that coming?  Florida took Alabama down to the wire.  Just doomed by some poor timeout management.

 

One interesting thing to note is Florida/Alabama is the second game in the last two weeks or so where I saw the unconventional move of a team down 14 going for a 2 pt conversion to cut the lead to six instead of an XP to cut the lead to seven.  The math actually supports going for two there -- especially if you're the underdog and playing to avoid OT -- but football coaches are so risk averse you never see it.  The other team as the Eagles, fwiw.

This game reminded everyone that Alabama aren't unbeatable even though a lot of folks have said just pen them in to the Championship game. Florida must be upset at last week's result even more than last night's. 

7 hours ago, rams80 said:

 

Indiana clears throat, gives modest death glare.

I'm looking forward to seeing where Indiana ends up in their bowl game. 

 

[Kramerica Industries]

2 hours ago, MJWalker45 said:

Florida must be upset at last week's result even more than last night's. 

 

Last week's result made it impossible for me to care too much one way or another last night, because they weren't making the playoff even if they won that game. So that's unequivocal "yes" to that statement and it's a strong indictment on the coaching staff and even the players on how much they were obviously overlooking the task(s) at hand before the SEC Championship, something that was rather easy to tell ever since the Vanderbilt game and was happening each week until they faced a team with just enough talent and had just enough bad luck and comically self-inflicted errors to finally burn them.

 

Hopefully they learned a lesson.

[MJWalker45]

43 minutes ago, Kramerica Industries said:

 

Last week's result made it impossible for me to care too much one way or another last night, because they weren't making the playoff even if they won that game. So that's unequivocal "yes" to that statement and it's a strong indictment on the coaching staff and even the players on how much they were obviously overlooking the task(s) at hand before the SEC Championship, something that was rather easy to tell ever since the Vanderbilt game and was happening each week until they faced a team with just enough talent and had just enough bad luck and comically self-inflicted errors to finally burn them.

 

Hopefully they learned a lesson.

Sitting out your best WR/TE (Pitts) wasn't a good call either unless he was too injured to play. 

[Seadragon76]

The playoff is set...

 

1. Alabama

2. Clemson

3. Ohio State

4. Notre Dame

 

5. Texas A&M

6, Oklahoma

 

Notre Dame vs. Alabama will be the relocated Rose Bowl while Ohio State vs. Clemson will be the Sugar Bowl.

[DEAD!]

Terrible that Notre Dame is in the playoff.  Yes , they could very well be the fourth best team, but they didn't win the conference. 

[See Red]

Notre Dame getting in is a complete joke.

 

[MJWalker45]

7 minutes ago, See Red said:

Notre Dame getting in is a complete joke.

 

I'm guessing the fact they lost in the championship helped them. Previous committee's have been against using a championship loss against teams. Oklahoma in front of Cincinnati is dubious, but that's on Cincy for not blowing out Tulsa. 

[infrared41]

10 minutes ago, See Red said:

Notre Dame getting in is a complete joke.

 

 

So is Ohio State getting in after a six game season.

[DG_ThenNowForever]

I've learned I get the most value from watching late night PAC 12 games (during regular times, that is) and that's it. The rest of NCAA Football is total farce. Great if you like teams that were good 60 years ago, but otherwise pointless to even care.

[FiddySicks]

What was even the point of risking everyone’s health and playing a season if that’s the final four you’re going to tweak into existence yet again?
 

College football is such a dumb :censored:ing joke. 

[DEAD!]

58 minutes ago, infrared41 said:

 

So is Ohio State getting in after a six game season.

At least they won their conference as dubious as it is. Having rankings at the beginning of the year are often a joke as it is.

[See Red]

I'm too mad about Notre Dame to even care about Ohio State, but yeah, they don't deserve it. Clemson at -6 looks like free money.  Iowa State was clearly just ranked where they were to prop up Oklahoma.

 

This system is far worse for college football than the BCS was. 

[infrared41]

35 minutes ago, FiddySicks said:

What was even the point of risking everyone’s health and playing a season if that’s the final four you’re going to tweak into existence yet again?

 

 

[infrared41]

11 minutes ago, See Red said:

I'm too mad about Notre Dame to even care about Ohio State, but yeah, they don't deserve it. Clemson at -6 looks like free money.  Iowa State was clearly just ranked where they were to prop up Oklahoma.

 

This system is far worse for college football than the BCS was. 

 

It's time to implement infrared's CFB playoff.

 

Six highest ranked conference champs and two at-large. (My plan is more detailed than that, but you get the gist.) My playoff would look like this...

 

Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, Cincinnati, Coastal Carolina, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, and Texas A&M.

[See Red]

 

Jan. 2	Orange Miami Gardens, Fla.	8 p.m. (ESPN)	(13) North Carolina vs. (5) Texas A&M
Jan. 2	Fiesta Glendale, Ariz.	4 p.m. (ESPN)	(25) Oregon vs. (10) Iowa State
Jan. 1	Peach Atlanta	12:30 p.m. (ESPN)	(9) Georgia vs. (8) Cincinnati
Dec. 30	Cotton Arlington, Tex.	8 p.m. (ESPN)	(6) Oklahoma vs. (7) Florida

 

I don't see how they can justify having Florida play in Texas and Texas A&M play in Florida... but I'm very happy with the Florida-Oklahoma matchup.

[Kramerica Industries]

Wonder if Oregon only has a ranking so that they don't have an NY6 game involving an unranked team.

[rams80]

 

Gonna go set myself on fire outside of the Rosemont Fogo de Chao.  

[floydnimrod]

I know the College Football Playoffs Selection Committee only exists so ESPN can have a high ratings program in December in addition to their NFL coverage, but at this point just make it a formula. Is that similar to the BCS? Yes. Will football fans have to learn how to do math? Yes. Put out all the metrics the committee says they want, make them quantitative and index them so they're all even, because everyone always argues what's more important. Everyone knows where they stand at all times.

 

The "eye test" only exists for former football players and old guys to talk up their favorite teams every week. It's literally the only way to rig the system is to use someone thing so unexplainable. I don't need a bunch of CTE brains telling me the six things they remembered about each team from the past 12 weeks.