Falcons New Unis 2020

[aawagner011]

Just a reminder that everyone’s favorite new Falcons uniform will make its debut this weekend against the Lions.

 

 

 

[Chromatic]

2 hours ago, oldschoolvikings said:

 

Talk about a low bar.

I never said they were good. I just don't understand why everyone's acting like they're the worst things ever when they're still an upgrade over the old uniforms.

[daniel75]

11 minutes ago, Chromatic said:

I never said they were good. I just don't understand why everyone's acting like they're the worst things ever when they're still an upgrade over the old uniforms.

But most don’t think it’s an upgrade. At best with the right combo they’re MAYBE a wash. 
 

Actually I take that back they’re worse.

[Chromatic]

1 hour ago, daniel75 said:

But most don’t think it’s an upgrade. At best with the right combo they’re MAYBE a wash. 
 

Actually I take that back they’re worse.

Why?  What makes them worse? Again they have their warts, like the number size, and the 'ATL', which I don't think is that bad. The font is bad but so was the old one. The uniform as a whole though is cleaner with a simplified, identifiable motif: the side stripe. The ones prior were a mess of nonsense panels and piping, second only to the Cardinals in Reebokness. 

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The Falcons really need to wear red socks with the gradient uniform combination, but we all know they never will!

[ManillaToad]

I would not mind the Falcons' unis at all if they would stop going mono colored every single game

[Indigo]

I'm surprised they didn't add a "swoop" to the helmets. It probably would look like Baltimore or Carolina, just with one.

[MCM0313]

4 hours ago, Chromatic said:

The Falcons new look, warts and all, is still better than their old uniforms. Come at me

I actually agree. The black wouldn’t be bad with a few adjustments. They need to throw the white socks into the fire though. 

[VikWings]

6 hours ago, Chromatic said:

The Falcons new look, warts and all, is still better than their old uniforms. Come at me

 

Shrink the numbers and 'ATL' a bit and resist the urge to wear mono head to toe all the time and it's not that bad (font still would need some work). Ignoring the alternate monstrosity of course.

 

Those are gonna get roasted on social media this week with so many jokes about the players looking like they're wearing high waisted pants. Tottenham suffered from the same problem in 2019, but it's going to be even worse on the Falcons since they'll be in long pants, with black socks and being worn by 300 lbs lineman.

 

 

[MCM0313]

49 minutes ago, VikWings said:

 

Shrink the numbers and 'ATL' a bit and resist the urge to wear mono head to toe all the time and it's not that bad (font still would need some work). Ignoring the alternate monstrosity of course.

 

Those are gonna get roasted on social media this week with so many jokes about the players looking like they're wearing high waisted pants. Tottenham suffered from the same problem in 2019, but it's going to be even worse on the Falcons since they'll be in long pants, with black socks and being worn by 300 lbs lineman.

 

 

As the person whose username starts with a trident rightly noted, the gradient wouldn’t be as bad with red socks. It might even grow on me with red socks. But ATL is doggedly determined to match their socks to their pants every time. 

[MJD7]

As expected, the all-white is considerably worse than the all-black, in my eyes at least. I generally like whiteout looks, but the black helmet just defeats the purpose in this case, and all-white doesn’t strike me as particularly “Atlanta.” Black pants would be considerably better in nearly every situation on the road, and white pants would be nice on occasion at home. 
 

As for the identity as a whole, a lot of the details I didn’t like early on (the satin helmet, the silver facemask, the slightly too big “ATL,” the number font) either aren’t as bad as I thought or don’t bother me as much in action. I actually enjoy the red side stripe in the games I’ve seen, as it’s a creative and simple design motif that really evokes speed. It also brings a significant amount of red into the set, which is especially evident watching them line up on TV. This is the best example I could find of what I’m talking about:

 

Overall, although this new set definitely isn’t perfect, I agree that it is at least an upgrade, and personally I wouldn’t quite put it among the worst uniforms in the league such as the Rams and Titans. It could be better, but I definitely don’t find it to be as terrible as I did when it was first unveiled. 

[FiddySicks]

5 hours ago, Chromatic said:

Why?  What makes them worse? Again they have their warts, like the number size, and the 'ATL', which I don't think is that bad. The font is bad but so was the old one. The uniform as a whole though is cleaner with a simplified, identifiable motif: the side stripe. The ones prior were a mess of nonsense panels and piping, second only to the Cardinals in Reebokness. 

The last set definitely had some problems, but there was a lot there that I liked. The glossy helmet with the black mask was clean and simple, the number font while not great was MILES better than the current one, and while it may not be the most popular opinion I actually rather liked the sleeve stripes. It also translated to the Nike set better than the other Reebok era unis IMO. They also looked better with red jerseys as the primaries. 

 

 

The problem with the last set is that they were frustratingly close to having a clean, classic look and it was overdone with all of the piping and such. They simplified things in the current set, which is good, but they got basically every single other element wrong. The last set left a lot to be desired, but instead of taking what worked, they found a way to actually look a lot worse now. 

[BBTV]

12 hours ago, FiddySicks said:

The last set definitely had some problems, but there was a lot there that I liked. The glossy helmet with the black mask was clean and simple, the number font while not great was MILES better than the current one, and while it may not be the most popular opinion I actually rather liked the sleeve stripes. It also translated to the Nike set better than the other Reebok era unis IMO. They also looked better with red jerseys as the primaries. 

 

 

The problem with the last set is that they were frustratingly close to having a clean, classic look and it was overdone with all of the piping and such. They simplified things in the current set, which is good, but they got basically every single other element wrong. The last set left a lot to be desired, but instead of taking what worked, they found a way to actually look a lot worse now. 

 

This is pretty much it.  The last set could have been salvaged if they didn't add every bell and whistle on day one, and phased them in gradually over the years.  For example, maybe go with more of a basic jersey but with a new font and maybe the side / pants piping.  Then after a while, add the sleeve detail (unless it proved popular enough as is.)

 

Or go nuts with the sleeve detail, but be more conservative everywhere else, and then change up the font and/or add the piping every few years, so it's a gradual build rather than a full cutover.

 

I realize that nobody has 12 years to wait for a vision to take place (considering the 4 or 5 year rule in between changes) but it's better than screwing the entire thing up and having to live with that for 4 years.

[oldschoolvikings]

I hated the last Falcon uniform, and would never have believed I'd be saying this, but this new one is worse, at least in the ways they've insisted on wearing it.

The old one was over designed and cluttered, but had a better helmet, better font, and a much better use of red. Clean up the sleeves, get some actual pants stripes, and the old look would've been salvageable.

But the new uniforms get worse to me every time I see them. The helmet is gimmicky, and prominently features colors that don't show up anywhere else. The numbers are atrocious. Now that Tampa is out of the running, the Falcons new font is neck and neck with the Titans for the worst in the NFL. But the worst thing by far is their combination decisions. As I'm sure I've made annoyingly clear, I always hate monochrome dark uniforms, but the solid color matching socks bring it all to a new dismal level, and the all white is just as terrible to me as the all black. Wearing white pants and black socks with the black jersey, and black socks with the all white would get them out of the bottom five, but only barely. Right now it's the Rams, Titans, Cardinals, Bengals, and them. 

[AstroCree]

The old sets didn't even have THAT much piping. Maybe around the sleeves and armpit but those could've been easily cleaned up. Fill the white and black with the matching red, you have a much stronger uniform than the current. 

When people say "it was cluttered with piping", you'd think it was just another Cardinals uniform but it wasn't. It was a very clean uniform. Cleaner than most people would expect from the Reebok era. It's honestly one of the better uniforms from that period.

[MJD7]

On 10/20/2020 at 12:15 PM, oldschoolvikings said:

The helmet is gimmicky, and prominently features colors that don't show up anywhere else. 

Just out of curiosity, do you have an issue with this for the Vikings helmet as well?

 

Personally, I find the Falcons to be in a similar situation, where neither of them bother me very much, even though I thought the Falcons use of silver would be much worse beforehand.

 

Since the prominent color is only used for the facemask and as an outline in the logo for both helmets, to me they both kind of operate in a similar manner as a base color that doesn't really detract from the rest of the identity.

[oldschoolvikings]

22 minutes ago, MJD7 said:

Just out of curiosity, do you have an issue with this for the Vikings helmet as well?

 

 

That's a legitimate question, as the uses in both cases are almost identical. I think the difference in my mind, is that if the Vikings added black to any other part of their uniform it would most definitely destroy it, while the Falcons adding gray pants (and making those pants the primary home and road look) would be a huge improvement. So maybe I'm less advocating they remove those extraneous colors, and instead add them elsewhere. 

[tBBP]

5 hours ago, insert name said:

The old sets didn't even have THAT much piping. Maybe around the sleeves and armpit but those could've been easily cleaned up. Fill the white and black with the matching red, you have a much stronger uniform than the current. 

When people say "it was cluttered with piping", you'd think it was just another Cardinals uniform but it wasn't. It was a very clean uniform. Cleaner than most people would expect from the Reebok era. It's honestly one of the better uniforms from that period.

 

Not for nothing (especially since they're gone now), but I had always wished the Falcons kept black as their primary jersey then--amd that they had worn this criminally underused combo more often:

 

 

To pair with this...

 

 

Those were my two favorite combos. 

[BBTV]

6 hours ago, insert name said:

The old sets didn't even have THAT much piping. Maybe around the sleeves and armpit but those could've been easily cleaned up. Fill the white and black with the matching red, you have a much stronger uniform than the current. 

When people say "it was cluttered with piping", you'd think it was just another Cardinals uniform but it wasn't. It was a very clean uniform. Cleaner than most people would expect from the Reebok era. It's honestly one of the better uniforms from that period.

 

If that's not damning with faint praise then I don't know what is.  That's more a commentary on how wild uniforms got later on rather than how piping-laden this was.  I didn't hate it nearly as much as many around these parts but even I'll concede that the went overboard with the trim.

[MJD7]

5 hours ago, oldschoolvikings said:

That's a legitimate question, as the uses in both cases are almost identical. I think the difference in my mind, is that if the Vikings added black to any other part of their uniform it would most definitely destroy it, while the Falcons adding gray pants (and making those pants the primary home and road look) would be a huge improvement. So maybe I'm less advocating they remove those extraneous colors, and instead add them elsewhere. 

That’s fair. Honestly, if I could drop the silver and black from the Falcons and Vikings, respectfully, I probably would. But neither of them really bother me much at all.
 

I see your point about adding gray pants for the Falcons, it would definitely be an improvement over the all-white, at least. My only concern is that it might become a little bit close combination-wise to the Raiders, but that’s obviously where the comparisons end. 
 

As far as whether red or black should be the primary, I feel like the division point is a little bit moot, since although the Saints and Panthers are primarily black, the Bucs have doubled down on being primarily red. If there’s one team that I think should change their primary designation, it would be the Panthers. Their blue is too unique and pretty to not be used more often.