FiddySicks Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 I’m not entirely sure who to believe here, but one thing I do now know is that this league is already a :censored:show, and I think I’ve lost any interest in it for good. 1 2 Quote On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavybass Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 The USFL cannot afford to have distractions.... that coach will be sent to the back of the barn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleVermilion81 Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Watching the game tonight. I didn’t watch any games this weekend. Did every game feature the announcer explaining what every play call is? Man it’s annoying. Takes away so much of the suspense of a play being a run, pass, play action, etc. Actually makes it really boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 Lol this thread. Quote 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Cesarano Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 Update: all teams look good except Pittsburgh. The helmet logo is indecipherable, and the orange yoke on the purple jersey is unsightly. Still, to have only one clunker in eight teams is good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sykotyk Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 First, football is popular. There's no debate on that. It's a matter of scale. Millions of people watch high school games every weekend in the fall. Yet, you aren't going to get a million people to watch just one high school game. People aren't that interested in watching teams that they're not fans of. Only at the highest levels does 'casual viewing' become a thing. The NFL can have fans tune in for any game because of the 16 every weekend, you're bound to get a good one. Same with the upper echelon of college. Spring football struggles for one overwhelming reason. It's not the same football that you watched. It would be like In-n-Out only selling burgers four months a year, and the rest of the year you just had to a wait. And burger stand after burger stand trying to start up to fill the void. But tastes like shoe leather and only available in 8 cities. You're not going to gain the same fans because it's not the same. What you need to do is adjust your economics to subsist on what you do get. And the last two spring leagues pre-covid that tried, both tried fans in stands as the core driver to grow their leagues. The XFL 2001, and AAF. They failed because travel is expensive. TV crews moving from city to city. Increased number of stadiums to man, staff, etc. USFL is trying to cut out the expenses to be financed entirely by TV. For those complaining about attendance... the tickets were $10 for Sunday, and good for all three games. They're not making money on tickets. At all. In fact, they'd probably do better to just have free admission and have a concessions deal to get a split of profits. Would look better for fans, at least. The big change over the past 20 years since XFL 1.0 is that TV ratings are garbage EXCEPT for live events. XFL 1.0 debuted with a 9.5 rating, which was great, but floundered with a 1.6 rating midway through the season. Today, a 1.6 rating would be popping champaign among executives because live broadcasts are so much better than anything that can be watched on delay. And sports is still the one key 'must watch live' events on TV. It's why there's live plays, reality shows, game shows, etc. Because people are hoping to see something unique as it happens. And sports today is made for TV. USFL is trying to capitalize on it. And with no travel, no stadium deals all over, staffing, etc. It's easy to keep costs down and contained and hope to subsist on TV. And THEN once it grows in support, branch out to the host cities. But apparently, too many are going to be hung up on people they don't even know sitting in a stadium of a game they are watching rather than watching the game. Then again, it's why the NFL papered the Super Bowl two years ago so people idiotically thought it was full because somehow it mattered. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Comet Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, Sykotyk said: But apparently, too many are going to be hung up on people they don't even know sitting in a stadium of a game they are watching rather than watching the game. Then again, it's why the NFL papered the Super Bowl two years ago so people idiotically thought it was full because somehow it mattered. Because our chimp brains think the more monkeys are in the stands, the more exciting it has to be. I wish I had a better reason than that. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sykotyk Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 24 minutes ago, Red Comet said: Because our chimp brains think the more monkeys are in the stands, the more exciting it has to be. I wish I had a better reason than that. No. No, you're sadly mostly right, I'm sure. Cause I can't think of another reason either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skycast Posted April 19, 2022 Author Share Posted April 19, 2022 16 hours ago, FiddySicks said: @Skycast are you like a burner account for the USFL or something? Why? Because I like to look to the positive side of things? Like it doesn't make sense that there's a little more to that story than just the dude wanting a piece of pizza. Give me a break. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDAWG Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 Pittsburgh is terrible. It may end up being long seasons for two pro football teams with Pittsburgh as part of their name. The only reason the Steelers might be competitive is due to Mike Tomlin, but we'll see how he does without Big Ben. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 Monday's game was EVEN WORSE. This pic was taken at kickoff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosioux76 Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 25 minutes ago, Cujo said: Monday's game was EVEN WORSE. This pic was taken at kickoff. Yeah, man, they should've just folded the league on the spot. Like, right in the middle of the kickoff. Just have the players toss their helmets into a moving truck right at the 50-yard-line. I'm sure Fox already has the press release drafted, "Well, we gave it a good try, but the good people of Birmingham have convinced us at Fox, after just one week, that our entire long-term TV-focused strategy is a failure. Maybe we'll try again in 30 more years! Good luck XFL!" 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 9 minutes ago, gosioux76 said: Yeah, man, they should've just folded the league on the spot. Like, right in the middle of the kickoff. Just have the players toss their helmets into a moving truck right at the 50-yard-line. At least that would've generated more buzz than anything that's happened on the field so far. Aside from having no fans show up to games and a dude who wanted pizza over a salad, USFL 2.0 has been DOA. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, gosioux76 said: Yeah, man, they should've just folded the league on the spot. Like, right in the middle of the kickoff. Just have the players toss their helmets into a moving truck right at the 50-yard-line. I'm sure Fox already has the press release drafted, "Well, we gave it a good try, but the good people of Birmingham have convinced us at Fox, after just one week, that our entire long-term TV-focused strategy is a failure. Maybe we'll try again in 30 more years! Good luck XFL!" I don't know what next season's going to look like, but XFL is out for blood: https://www.espn.com/xfl/story/_/id/33765857/xfl-pitches-league-player-agents-attempt-counteract-usfl-source-says Quote The XFL continued its efforts to counterprogram the USFL's return to the field by convening a virtual meeting of agents Monday night to pitch them on the league's plans for 2023 and beyond, a source told ESPN. The XFL's top football executives -- Marc Ross, Doug Whaley and Russ Giglio -- told agents that the XFL would offer higher salaries and better benefits than the USFL. Ross, Whaley and Giglio also suggested that the XFL's season schedule, which will begin in February and end in May, would be more "advantageous" for players who want to get subsequent consideration from NFL teams, according to an internal outline of the meeting obtained by ESPN. USFL players are receiving $4,500 per week in addition to bonuses if their team wins. They also receive subsidized housing during the regular season; The USFL pays $75 toward a daily $150 hotel room rate at the league's one-site location in Birmingham, Alabama. Ross and Whaley told agents that XFL salaries will be higher and will include full housing and meal costs during the season. I thought that media and fan treatment of XFL 1.0 was pretty horrid -- ESPN in particular was rooting for it to fail -- and I think leagues deserve to live or die on their own merit. USFL is beginning from the meageriest of meager beginnings. Hopefully they can turn it around, but right now, the optics are just awful. 3 Quote 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosioux76 Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, DG_ThenNowForever said: I don't know what next season's going to look like, but XFL is out for blood: https://www.espn.com/xfl/story/_/id/33765857/xfl-pitches-league-player-agents-attempt-counteract-usfl-source-says This is another fascinating component to these spring football leagues. It's at least a new wrinkle in the story. The WFL, USFL 1.0, the AAF and both prior XFLs were only competing against themselves. Having two actively trying to compete against each other could be beneficial to both leagues -- each driven to one-up the other, increasing their quality and value along the way. Maybe it eventually forces a merger of the two. Or maybe it bankrupts them both. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, gosioux76 said: This is another fascinating component to these spring football leagues. It's at least a new wrinkle in the story. The WFL, USFL 1.0, the AAF and both prior XFLs were only competing against themselves. Having two actively trying to compete against each other could be beneficial to both leagues -- each driven to one-up the other, increasing their quality and value along the way. Maybe it eventually forces a merger of the two. Or maybe it bankrupts them both. I really don't understand XFL immediately going for the USFL's throat like that. USFL at least has teams and uniforms and "markets." XFL has a stolen logo, Rock's smile, and some guys who say they're going to coach. 2 Quote 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, DG_ThenNowForever said: XFL has a stolen logo, Rock's smile, and some guys who say they're going to coach. XFL 3.0 has a partnership with the NFL. But nbd, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, Cujo said: XFL 3.0 has a partnership with the NFL. But nbd, right? Do they? I didn't know that. Nice knowing you, USFL. 1 Quote 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skycast Posted April 19, 2022 Author Share Posted April 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, Cujo said: XFL 3.0 has a partnership with the NFL. But nbd, right? Kinda, sorta, but not really...it's with the NFL Alumni Association or something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 10 minutes ago, Skycast said: Kinda, sorta, but not really...it's with the NFL Alumni Association or something like that. Huge W anytime you can partner up with the beast that if the NFL. It also beats anything USFL has going for them. Quote NEW YORK – April 11, 2022 – The XFL today announced it has entered an exclusive partnership with the NFL Alumni Academy, an elite in-season training program for “NFL Ready” players led by former NFL coaches and players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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