ColeJ Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 i'm pretty sure i like the new clippers stuff better than the new bucks stuff.and that's not really much of a compliment towards the clippers, at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Wine Pirate Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 i'm pretty sure i like the new clippers stuff better than the new bucks stuff.and that's not really much of a compliment towards the clippers, at all.I agree. I don't think the LA Clippers redesign is great, but it is nowhere near as bad as everyone acts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyk33 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 i'm pretty sure i like the new clippers stuff better than the new bucks stuff.and that's not really much of a compliment towards the clippers, at all.I am sort of in agreement with you.I don't think the Bucks are worse than the Clippers by any means but I don't get why people are drooling all over it on here.The Bucks rebrand is the epitome of "meh" to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midway Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Nowhere near as bad? You could have done what the Clippers did for ANY sports team, gave it the usual marketing spin, and it'd have the exact same lack of brand personality. Sometimes, bad design is just that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Wine Pirate Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 (edited) Nowhere near as bad? You could have done what the Clippers did for ANY sports team, gave it the usual marketing spin, and it'd have the exact same lack of brand personality. Sometimes, bad design is just that.That could be said for the Packers "G", Bears "C", Cubs, Indians "C", Yankees "NY", Dodgers "LA", and many others. All of those logos I just mentioned can be drawn by a child. None are special in any way. They are just generic scripts. Again, IMO the response has been an overreaction. There isn't much you can do with Clippers anyways. I don't see any lakes in the Lakers logo. That's a basic logo as well. Now is the new Clippers logo a great logo? Absolutely not! It's very plain and simple. But it is also nowhere near as bad as the cries have it to be. Edited June 22, 2015 by Ice_Cap make your point without insulting others or don't make it at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Nowhere near as bad? You could have done what the Clippers did for ANY sports team, gave it the usual marketing spin, and it'd have the exact same lack of brand personality. Sometimes, bad design is just that.That could be said for the Packers "G", Bears "C", Cubs, Indians "C", Yankees "NY", Dodgers "LA", and many others. All of those logos I just mentioned can be drawn by a child. None are special in any way. They are just generic scripts.They also have decades of tradition behind them. The LAC the Clippers are going with could work in some alternate reality where it's the decades-old logo of a Los Angeles Clippers team that is a storied franchise. That's not the case though, so the comparisons just fall flat.There isn't much you can do with Clippers anyways.Nautical flags. Sailing ships. Anchors. Rope. Sunsets. Waves. The ocean.Aside from all of that though? You're right. Not much.I don't see any lakes in the Lakers logo. That's a basic logo as well.Again, it's a comparison that doesn't work. The Lakers' logo has decades of tradition and success behind it. The Clippers' new logo was introduced by a team that's historically been known for being both a laughing stock and tone deaf when it comes to their own fanbase. There's no honest comparison to be made between the new Clippers logo and the Lakers logo.Which someone might say is the one blessing in this whole mess. That at the very least they got away from the LA Lakers knock-off logo. Thing is? I miss it already. It was lifeless, but it wasn't bad.Now is the new Clippers logo a great logo? Absolutely not!You obviously feel it's good enough to list as one of your favourite logos. Just saying. Quote PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Wine Pirate Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 So if a team is old, it's ok to use a generic logo? If so, then what's the official threshold time that makes a franchise "decades of tradition"? I mean, if there is an exact date, then I'm fine with this. But without an exact threshold time that makes a generic logo a "decades of tradition", then it isn't a valid excuse to have a generic logo such as the "G" Packers. So yes, unless there is an official time given by the logo-Gods, my comparison is valid and not flat.I have the brand new LA Clippers logo listed as one of my favorites because I deeply respect the bold move to do something like this. Especially since there are so many teams out there with generic "a child can make that" logos (as mentioned in a previous post).EDIT: I do apologize for using the word "childish" in the post you edited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 So if a team is old, it's ok to use a generic logo? If so, then what's the official threshold time that makes a franchise "decades of tradition"? I mean, if there is an exact date, then I'm fine with this. But without an exact threshold time that makes a generic logo a "decades of tradition", then it isn't a valid excuse to have a generic logo such as the "G" Packers. So yes, unless there is an official time given by the logo-Gods, my comparison is valid and not flat.No, your comparisons don't work. The Packers' G isn't generic because of that tradition. You may say otherwise, you may claim "tradition" doesn't mean anything and we should view all logos in a vacuum. That's your opinion, but it's one I disagree with.There is no set time frame or cut-off date, but it is true that some logos garner enough cache that their relatively simple designs become so much more in the hearts and minds of fans. You may not agree with it, but you can't deny that it is a factor.I have the brand new LA Clippers logo listed as one of my favorites because I deeply respect the bold move to do something like this. Especially since there are so many teams out there with generic "a child can make that" logos (as mentioned in a previous post).So your argument is that tradition has no place in discussing the merits of certain logos. Well if that's the case then the Clippers didn't make a bold move. They simply released a logo like all of those other teams. Your own argument, taken to its logical conclusion, simply means the Clippers did what a lot of other teams have done. That's not bold. That's playing it safe. Quote PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy B Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Nowhere near as bad? You could have done what the Clippers did for ANY sports team, gave it the usual marketing spin, and it'd have the exact same lack of brand personality. Sometimes, bad design is just that.That could be said for the Packers "G", Bears "C", Cubs, Indians "C", Yankees "NY", Dodgers "LA", and many others. All of those logos I just mentioned can be drawn by a child. None are special in any way. They are just generic scripts. Again, IMO the response has been an overreaction. There isn't much you can do with Clippers anyways. I don't see any lakes in the Lakers logo. That's a basic logo as well. Now is the new Clippers logo a great logo? Absolutely not! It's very plain and simple. But it is also nowhere near as bad as the cries have it to be.I'd argue that the Yankees and Dodgers (maybe Bears too, but the Reds logo is pretty much the same) have great logos regardless of the tradition behind them. You can have a great logo that can be drawn by a child.And the name Clippers gives you plenty to work with. You could, I don't know, put a clipper ship in the logo. Saying a couple curved lines represent the ocean isn't enough when designing a logo representative of the team name is so simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1insaneguy Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 So if a team is old, it's ok to use a generic logo? If so, then what's the official threshold time that makes a franchise "decades of tradition"? I mean, if there is an exact date, then I'm fine with this. But without an exact threshold time that makes a generic logo a "decades of tradition", then it isn't a valid excuse to have a generic logo such as the "G" Packers. So yes, unless there is an official time given by the logo-Gods, my comparison is valid and not flat.No, your comparisons don't work. The Packers' G isn't generic because of that tradition. You may say otherwise, you may claim "tradition" doesn't mean anything and we should view all logos in a vacuum. That's your opinion, but it's one I disagree with.There is no set time frame or cut-off date, but it is true that some logos garner enough cache that their relatively simple designs become so much more in the hearts and minds of fans. You may not agree with it, but you can't deny that it is a factor.I have the brand new LA Clippers logo listed as one of my favorites because I deeply respect the bold move to do something like this. Especially since there are so many teams out there with generic "a child can make that" logos (as mentioned in a previous post).So your argument is that tradition has no place in discussing the merits of certain logos. Well if that's the case then the Clippers didn't make a bold move. They simply released a logo like all of those other teams. Your own argument, taken to its logical conclusion, simply means the Clippers did what a lot of other teams have done. That's not bold. That's playing it safe.He might be saying that they're brave to do that despite the criticism of "a child can make that". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynasty Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 I still don't think the 76ers new uniforms are that much of an improvement over their previous ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1insaneguy Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 (edited) These are the Pistons best uniforms:Dolphins Dynasty, on 22 Jun 2015 - 13:51, said:I still don't think the 76ers new uniforms are that much of an improvement over their previous ones. Ah, a throwback to the days when losing by less than 20 points was a bad thing. Edited June 22, 2015 by 1insaneguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1insaneguy Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 I still don't think the 76ers new uniforms are that much of an improvement over their previous ones.Ah, a throwback to the days when losing by less than 20 points was a bad thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnWis97 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 On 6/22/2015 at 3:27 PM, 1insaneguy said: These are the Pistons best uniforms: What does the 35 on the shorts mean? Quote Disclaimer: If this comment is about an NBA uniform from 2017-2018 or later, do not constitute a lack of acknowledgement of the corporate logo to mean anything other than "the corporate logo is terrible and makes the uniform significantly worse." BADGERS TWINS VIKINGS TIMBERWOLVES WILD POTD (Shared) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pabig Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 35th Pistons season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 I like that the Sixers are trying to make PHILA their thingSixers is always they if they want to switch colors, but PHILA is cool and unique. I also don't get the people who want them to put Philadelphia. Just like Los Angeles and Oklahoma City, Philadelhpia is too long to put on a jersey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1insaneguy Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 I like that the Sixers are trying to make PHILA their thingSixers is always they if they want to switch colors, but PHILA is cool and unique. I also don't get the people who want them to put Philadelphia. Just like Los Angeles and Oklahoma City, Philadelhpia is too long to put on a jersey.You're right Oklahoma City is way too long. How about Seattle? That fits on a jersey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRicSlick Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 The inaugural uniforms and logos the Ravens used, might be the most overrated uniforms in NFL history.I can't find any redeeming things in the whole set. The pants have that ugly white stripe, the helmets are a mess, and the jerseys are just plain ugly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mafiaman Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 Just like Los Angeles and Oklahoma City, Philadelhpia is too long to put on a jersey.Having PHILA on the jerseys also eliminates the potential for spelling errors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13DolphinsFan91 Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 The Clippers new logo and jersey are very uglyI don't like the fact that the NBA is changing half of their teams look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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