The_Admiral Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 But they were one of the best brands: great color scheme, a name that feels locally appropriate, and a logo that passes the doodle test with flying colors. They were in so many ways the football Whalers: a second-rate team in a cradle of its sport, with great aesthetics, a quirky theme song, years of .500 records, an absolute dump of a venue, and both were doomed in 1996. One thing I would have done to spruce up the Houston Oilers going forward was to tweak the numbers. The Oilers had those cool Futura numbers early on that they got away from, and had that deeply drop-shadowed wordmark that felt big and bold and therefore Texan, but also far more modern than the very Western-styled Cowboys wordmark (or the Edmonton Oilers, for that matter). So then obviously, sans-serif numbers of one form or another, whether that's something vaguely Helvetican to match the wordmark or something in the Futura family like they had in the '60s. I'd keep everything else and mix and match the road uniforms week by week to best complement the home team: if they have white pants, wear the blue pants with white socks, if they don't, wear the white pants with blue socks, and then maybe once a year go head-to-toe white just for fun. The Titans were cool in the 1999-2001 End Of History but got stale fast, and the Texans tweaked themselves out of an outstanding set with pants that matched socks, monochrome blue sets, and "Battle Red" anything. I think the Oilers were much more built to last than either. 10 Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFGiants58 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 I get where you’re coming from, but I vehemently disagree. The Titans’ first set looked great in the powder/white and white/powder combos, while the Texans look good in every setting (yeah, red socks on the road would be better). The flaming thumbtack and the flag bull will always look better to me. The Oilers will never not be an awful identity, AFAIA. Yes, they passed the doodle test with clip art logo. That doesn’t mean it was good. Those floating stripes will always be hideous. The light blue was nice and all, but it needed a dark accent color. The Texans shouldn’t be forced to become the Oilers and I’m glad the Titans switched to navy helmets (the one part of the redesign I liked) to prevent them from trotting our their old designs. Let the Oilers die. 1 Quote MLB: Project 32 (Complete), MLB: The Defunct Saga (Complete) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Awful Texans uniform right here. This one is very good. They can look great, but there's also a low floor, and they scrape their knees on it regularly. 6 Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFGiants58 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 True, but they haven't worn the all-red in years. I completely forgot they did that! The Texans (well, Toros could also be the name) have a much greater identity potential than the Oilers. Their logo also passes the doodle test, but without looking like clip art. Had the Titans not switched up their uniforms, I'd give them the same defense (minus the doodle test). At the end of the day, Oilers nostalgia is going to fade in Houston (and I'm sure it has already in Tennessee). Some of us uniform nerds will try to keep that Luv' Ya Blue flame alive, but not me. 1 Quote MLB: Project 32 (Complete), MLB: The Defunct Saga (Complete) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Well, we all have our NFL team where we dig in our heels and say they look like crap. Mine has always been the Buccaneers. 3 Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnclearInitial Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 5 hours ago, SFGiants58 said: I get where you’re coming from, but I vehemently disagree. The Titans’ first set looked great in the powder/white and white/powder combos, while the Texans look good in every setting (yeah, red socks on the road would be better). The flaming thumbtack and the flag bull will always look better to me. The Oilers will never not be an awful identity, AFAIA. Yes, they passed the doodle test with clip art logo. That doesn’t mean it was good. Those floating stripes will always be hideous. The light blue was nice and all, but it needed a dark accent color. The Texans shouldn’t be forced to become the Oilers and I’m glad the Titans switched to navy helmets (the one part of the redesign I liked) to prevent them from trotting our their old designs. Let the Oilers die. It took almost twenty years for the Titans to start wearing powder/white, and they ditched it within a couple of years to go back to primarily navy and then switched to the current atrocities. I have trouble calling that combo “the first set” when it wasn’t worn at all until the mid 2010s. Just the switching back and forth between navy and powder shows to me that their brand isn’t all that strong and the Titans are the first to not quite know what they want to be, assuming the answer isn’t wearing swords on shoulders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFGiants58 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 9 hours ago, anythinglogos said: It took almost twenty years for the Titans to start wearing powder/white, and they ditched it within a couple of years to go back to primarily navy and then switched to the current atrocities. I have trouble calling that combo “the first set” when it wasn’t worn at all until the mid 2010s It's still the "first template" and the same white jersey, so I'd say it counts. 9 hours ago, anythinglogos said: Just the switching back and forth between navy and powder shows to me that their brand isn’t all that strong and the Titans are the first to not quite know what they want to be, assuming the answer isn’t wearing swords on shoulders. On the contrary, it demonstrates that they had a versatile color scheme and could use multiple good combinations (powder/white, white/powder, navy/white, white/white, and maybe navy/powder). They knew what they wanted to be, then lost the plot when they thought a redesign would reinvigorate the club. Either way, I like it more than the garbage that was the Oilers. Texans and Titans forever, Oilers never. 1 Quote MLB: Project 32 (Complete), MLB: The Defunct Saga (Complete) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOatsMustFlow Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 The Yankees uniforms are overrated. Really not that great. There, I said it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Akronite- Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 14 hours ago, TheOatsMustFlow said: The Yankees uniforms are overrated. Really not that great. There, I said it. They should never change them. They are absolute classics. But also pinstripes are ugly as hell in most cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo_prankster Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 On 9/16/2019 at 2:42 PM, SFGiants58 said: I don’t mind that the Oilers moved, as it killed one of the NFL’s worst brands and created two brands that were fantastic (old Titans in some combos and nearly all of the Texans’ designs). Let the Oilers stay dead. This is why I also wish the Cleveland Indians became the Seattle Indians in the ‘60s, where they would have likely had to dump the moniker in the ‘90s. With an expansion team in Cleveland unable to use the name, MLB’s worst identity would be gone! Hopefully the Chargers' branding can be retired too. Ditto for the Redskins. Do you think climate change would render the Oilers name politically incorrect nowadays? Quote The Fictional Story of Austus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sky1324 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 4 hours ago, neo_prankster said: Do you think climate change would render the Oilers name politically incorrect nowadays? No. 4 Quote the user formerly known as cdclt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lights Out Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 The Texans have always looked incredibly dull, like a generic team from a movie. Even the much-beloved road uniforms with red socks still look forgettable. 1 Quote POTD: 2/4/12 3/4/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFGiants58 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 The Texans are one of my favorite NFL designs and I think they'd have the best "modern" NFL look if they wore a white helmet, had the red jersey as their home primary, and only wore white pants on the road. Even as they stand, I like them. Aside from the road socks, they've pretty much stuck to their guns. I like that more than the trend-chasing of other clubs. 2 Quote MLB: Project 32 (Complete), MLB: The Defunct Saga (Complete) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont care Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Lights Out said: The Texans have always looked incredibly dull, like a generic team from a movie. Even the much-beloved road uniforms with red socks still look forgettable. I completely disagree, they have custom numbers, and a uniform template that is classy and similar to USC’s. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimalCookie Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 That white helmet from that one picture looks awful, and the red jersey is the worst of the three. Bring back red socks for the away and the Texans don’t need to change ever again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Akronite- Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 3 hours ago, Lights Out said: The Texans have always looked incredibly dull, like a generic team from a movie. Even the much-beloved road uniforms with red socks still look forgettable. The name is generic, being like the 5th "Texans" in the states pro football history. The colors are generic as it gets in the states, red and navy. The uniforms don't have any unique elements other than a number font. And I'm not a fan of a mostly navy logo on a navy helmet (the white was the way to go for me). That being said, no need to change. It's modern, simple, and inoffensive. Just isn't going anywhere high in my uniform rankings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatic Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 On 9/20/2019 at 12:26 PM, -Akronite- said: The name is generic, being like the 5th "Texans" in the states pro football history. The colors are generic as it gets in the states, red and navy. The uniforms don't have any unique elements other than a number font. And I'm not a fan of a mostly navy logo on a navy helmet (the white was the way to go for me). That being said, no need to change. It's modern, simple, and inoffensive. Just isn't going anywhere high in my uniform rankings. They have a great logo though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 On 9/19/2019 at 1:30 PM, neo_prankster said: Hopefully the Chargers' branding can be retired too. It won't be. Let it go. 1 Quote PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCarp1231 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 The Dolphins orange CR uniform may not “exist” anymore, but the only salvageable part of it should’ve been the orange pants. With the slight modification of dropping the dark blue in the stripe as with what Miami did with the rest of the uniforms, it gives them a good alternate pants option: 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Akronite- Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 On 9/21/2019 at 11:40 PM, Chromatic said: They have a great logo though. Would never argue against that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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