hawk36 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Don't you think a locals name instantly endears the team to its city? Something that's theirs, that they can "own".A local name is fine. You can have a name that's to local though. "Rougarou" and "Krewe" are to local.A good local name is one that's instantly recognizable by a national or international audience yet one that also ties into the team's locale. "Rougarou" and "Krewe" may tie into New Orleans but most people not from the area won't know what the hell these names mean."Pelicans," on the other hand, is the perfect local name. It ties into the area and it's also something fans all over will recognize.I just think "Krew" and Rougarou" require too much explanation to the rest of the league's fanbase. Sounders is a locally derived name that doesn't require as much explanation.What's funny is I have people not from Seattle asking me all the time what Sounders means. Most think it's because of Seattle's music scene and not the Puget Sound. Probably doesn't help that the logo is the Space Needle and has nothing to do with water. Design Hovie Studios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Yeah, I think "Sounders" requires every bit the explanation "Krewe" or "Rougarou" does. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy B Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 I kind of just figured out what Sounders meant after a little bit. It's not the most obvious, but it's definitely easier for people nationally to recognize than than "Krewe" or "Rougarou". Soccer is also a lot different in terms of branding where you don't need a strong mascot to have a strong brand. There are teams in the US with "Sporting" and "Real" and international teams can sell stuff like crazy here and none have American names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk36 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 I kind of just figured out what Sounders meant after a little bit. It's not the most obvious, but it's definitely easier for people nationally to recognize than than "Krewe" or "Rougarou". Soccer is also a lot different in terms of branding where you don't need a strong mascot to have a strong brand. There are teams in the US with "Sporting" and "Real" and international teams can sell stuff like crazy here and none have American names.Other teams that do just fine with odd names that often have to be explained:1. Green Bay Packers2. Los Angeles Lakers3. Los Angeles Dodgers4. New York Mets5. Minnesota Twins6. Philadelphia Phillies7. San Francisco 49ers8. Philadelphia 76ers9. Pittsburgh Steelers10. Buffalo Bills11. New York Knicks12. Indiana PacersAnd that doesn't even include college (Georgetown Hoyas)... Design Hovie Studios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 After the first press release and the first nationally televised game, everybody will know full well what a Krewe or a Rougarou is. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Island_Style Posted December 27, 2012 Author Share Posted December 27, 2012 Yeah, this is 2012. I have a hard time believing that info wont get around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubsFanBudMan Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 I think search engines would have been able to handle the extra traffic to their underutilized Rougarou page results. Plus, ESPN would be happy to have Billy Crystal come on each telecast and explain it for a quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Yeah, I think "Sounders" requires every bit the explanation "Krewe" or "Rougarou" does.Yes, the difference being, though, that the MLS has about the same international appeal as League One. The NBA has slightly higher aspirations with regards to appeal and attention.And another thing. Just what appeal does a garbled French werewolf have? On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 The number one American brand internationally? The "Yankees". Somehow I think any of the New Orleans choices could do just fine, regardless of however local they make the identity. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eye Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 The number one American brand internationally? The "Yankees". Somehow I think any of the New Orleans choices could do just fine, regardless of however local they make the identity.Rougarou and Krewe suck; that's why they're awful choices. Also, you can't compare the Yankees to this franchise that almost nobody outside or even some inside (after looking at attendance numbers) of New Orleans cares about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 All I'm saying is that you don't need some generic mass-market name to have broad appeal. With New Orleans, I think they'd be smart to build the brand around the city. Brooklyn has done a fantastic job doing just that, hampered by a terrible nickname. I'm not sure what goal exactly people think can't be met with any of those proposed names, especially when you're building around a brand as internationally-renowned as that of the Crescent City. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 The Yankees' appeal comes more from them winning all the time.Loup garou and Krewe is just simply trying too hard. Forcing obscure regionalism in the hopes that it will appeal to....I dunno...people who exult in eccentricity or something. Hipsterism will die out eventually though, so, *shrug*.(Also you already have wolves in the league.) On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk36 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Yeah, I think "Sounders" requires every bit the explanation "Krewe" or "Rougarou" does.Yes, the difference being, though, that the MLS has about the same international appeal as League One. The NBA has slightly higher aspirations with regards to appeal and attention.Be careful, the MLS has had higher average attendance than the NBA and the NHL for the past 2 years. Yes, they are still second tier, but on a very strong path to success. This past year, for the first time, I saw a Sounder jersey being worn in England by a local who was an actual Sounders fan. All this to say I wouldn't dismiss what the MLS does. Design Hovie Studios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEANS Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 all this bickering is pointless... https://www.andrewsterlachini.com/ or http://dribbble.com/MEANS1974  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresno St. Alum Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 all this bickering is pointless...Star Wars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosrs1 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 I kind of just figured out what Sounders meant after a little bit. It's not the most obvious, but it's definitely easier for people nationally to recognize than than "Krewe" or "Rougarou". Soccer is also a lot different in terms of branding where you don't need a strong mascot to have a strong brand. There are teams in the US with "Sporting" and "Real" and international teams can sell stuff like crazy here and none have American names.Other teams that do just fine with odd names that often have to be explained:1. Green Bay Packers2. Los Angeles Lakers3. Los Angeles Dodgers4. New York Mets5. Minnesota Twins6. Philadelphia Phillies7. San Francisco 49ers8. Philadelphia 76ers9. Pittsburgh Steelers10. Buffalo Bills11. New York Knicks12. Indiana PacersAnd that doesn't even include college (Georgetown Hoyas)...The bolded ones are neither odd nor need any explanation to anyone who is older than 5 years old or who doesn't have their head up their ass when it comes to even basic social and historical information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 You think everyone automatically knows that "Packers" refers to the meatpacking industry? The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosrs1 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 You think everyone automatically knows that "Packers" refers to the meatpacking industry?If they don't they need to retake a basic primary school social studies and geography class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 I think you're really reaching there. To this day Wisconsin is known for many agricultural products, but eatin' cows ain't one of them. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TornadoGTS Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Maybe not the Packers, but bosrs1 has a point on the rest of them, I mean if you gotta explain the Philadelphia 76ers or San Francisco 49ers to someone, then they need to go back to 4th grade social studies. Facebook: CustomSportsCovers Twitter: CSCovers Quote No because when the Irish came to Ireland and first came in contact with the leprechaun people, they didn't take their land away and force them to move west. Instead, the two groups learned to assimilate peacefully. However, certain tribes of the leprechaun refused to taint the pure blood and moved north into the forests of Ireland, only to be seen rarely, usually at the same time of a rainbows appearance and occasionally at the factories of Lucky Charms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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