Teams that need new venues

[dbadefense1990]

Going to be weird if the Raiders move in with the Niners. Both teams repping different cities, playing in a different city. It'd be like having the Manhattan Giants and the Brooklyn Jets, both playing in New Jersey.

Such a shame. Two teams with such storied pasts in Oakland (A's and Raiders I mean).

Unfortunately time passed Oakland by in the 1970's and it's just now catching up with them.

Wasn't the city of Oakland famous in the 1960s and 1970s for being Berkeley's protest-happy cousin?

[bosrs1]

Going to be weird if the Raiders move in with the Niners. Both teams repping different cities, playing in a different city. It'd be like having the Manhattan Giants and the Brooklyn Jets, both playing in New Jersey.

Such a shame. Two teams with such storied pasts in Oakland (A's and Raiders I mean).

Unfortunately time passed Oakland by in the 1970's and it's just now catching up with them.

Wasn't the city of Oakland famous in the 1960s and 1970s for being Berkeley's protest-happy cousin?

True and it was also a city beginning a decline that continues today. Oakland is the only major city in California that has seen no appreciable population increase in the last 6 decades (and has actually seen its population fall). Meanwhile the rest of the Bay Area has one of the higher growth rates in the country.

[The_Admiral]

You're always ripping on Oakland. Why do you even bother liking the A's?

[Kramerica Industries]

Well, sometimes masochism is a ton of fun.

[The_Admiral]

Yeah, I'd get more into it, but I've been really tied up lately.

I mean, I just can't get over the cognitive dissonance here. The fact that Oakland is one rough patch is part of the whole A's experience. You can't root for the team and against the city unless you're just a big old crapbird. "Oh, I love the Cubs, but Chicago's sales tax is too high and kids get shot. They should move to Naperville." No one worth listening to says that.

[illwauk]

Yeah, I'd get more into it, but I've been really tied up lately.

I mean, I just can't get over the cognitive dissonance here. The fact that Oakland is one rough patch is part of the whole A's experience. You can't root for the team and against the city unless you're just a big old crapbird. "Oh, I love the Cubs, but Chicago's sales tax is too high and kids get shot. They should move to Naperville." No one worth listening to says that.

I want to agree just on GP... yet I'm a Packers fan, and damned if the day when I saw Green Bay in the rear-view of my U-Haul wasn't one of the happiest of my life.

[RyanMcD29]

Yeah, I'd get more into it, but I've been really tied up lately.

I mean, I just can't get over the cognitive dissonance here. The fact that Oakland is one rough patch is part of the whole A's experience. You can't root for the team and against the city unless you're just a big old crapbird. "Oh, I love the Cubs, but Chicago's sales tax is too high and kids get shot. They should move to Naperville." No one worth listening to says that.

Yeah

They should move to Joliet by the NASCAR track instead

[bosrs1]

You're always ripping on Oakland. Why do you even bother liking the A's?

Because I grew up in the Bay Area rooting for them as my local home team and they're still my AL team today. And there was a time Oakland didn't treat the A's like , the Coliseum was well kept, etc..., but that was over 20 years ago now. The city has spent the last two decades doing nothing but undercutting and hampering the A's mainly to the benefit of the Raiders. At this point I still love the franchise, but I could take or leave the city. Particularly as they continue to dick around claiming they're working on a ballpark when anyone who knows their history and financial situation knows they're full of .

[bosrs1]

Yeah, I'd get more into it, but I've been really tied up lately.

I mean, I just can't get over the cognitive dissonance here. The fact that Oakland is one rough patch is part of the whole A's experience. You can't root for the team and against the city unless you're just a big old crapbird. "Oh, I love the Cubs, but Chicago's sales tax is too high and kids get shot. They should move to Naperville." No one worth listening to says that.

And as for not liking the city but liking the team, not sure why you see a cognitive dissonance there. I've never lived in Oakland, never spend more than a few hours in Oakland at any one time at A's games, to use the airport, or to visit an attraction in the city. So I have no ties to Oakland beyond the A's. I've never rooted for them because they're from Oakland, I've rooted for them for over 25 years because they were a Bay Area team, my Bay Area team. Maybe that's where your not understanding, the Bay Area isn't Chicago. I grew up near San Jose, but I don't tell people I grew up in San Jose or that I grew up in San Francisco or Oakland... I grew up in the Bay Area. An area that encompasses 3 major cities and several dozen smaller ones. The A's are one team in the Bay Area that ultimately represents the Bay Area, not just Oakland despite what the clothes say. Same goes for the Raiders, Niners, Giants, Warriors, Sharks, and Earthquakes. It's the same reason I wholly support their moving to San Jose.

[FiddySicks]

Yeah, I'd get more into it, but I've been really tied up lately.

I mean, I just can't get over the cognitive dissonance here. The fact that Oakland is one rough patch is part of the whole A's experience. You can't root for the team and against the city unless you're just a big old crapbird. "Oh, I love the Cubs, but Chicago's sales tax is too high and kids get shot. They should move to Naperville." No one worth listening to says that.

And as for not liking the city but liking the team, not sure why you see a cognitive dissonance there. I've never lived in Oakland, never spend more than a few hours in Oakland at any one time at A's games, to use the airport, or to visit an attraction in the city. So I have no ties to Oakland beyond the A's. I've never rooted for them because they're from Oakland, I've rooted for them for over 25 years because they were a Bay Area team, my Bay Area team. Maybe that's where your not understanding, the Bay Area isn't Chicago. I grew up near San Jose, but I don't tell people I grew up in San Jose or that I grew up in San Francisco or Oakland... I grew up in the Bay Area. An area that encompasses 3 major cities and several dozen smaller ones. The A's are one team in the Bay Area that ultimately represents the Bay Area, not just Oakland despite what the clothes say. Same goes for the Raiders, Niners, Giants, Warriors, Sharks, and Earthquakes. It's the same reason I wholly support their moving to San Jose.

Yeah pretty much. The whole cognitive dissonance thing doesn't make much sense to me because, despite what some apparently think, the A's were in Oakland long before the city itself was a total war zone and the Coliseum was a complete dump. Sure you have a handful of people who like the A's because they're in ghettoville and whatnot, but there are also a lot more A's fans out there because they're a team that represents the entire east Bay Area, and that's where they're from.

[bosrs1]

You're always ripping on Oakland. Why do you even bother liking the A's?

Admiral, here's a prime example of why I still love the A's, but can't stand the city of Oakland...

http://newballpark.org/2013/11/29/oakland-alameda-county-to-discuss-vote/

This is their grand plan for the future. To provide the A's with land to build their new ballpark sometime after 2020 in their current north parking lot as part of the third phase of rebuilding the Coliseum complex. Never mind they'd demolish the existing ballpark in 2015/16 leaving the A's homeless for 5 seasons or so.

[monkeypower]

Not an entirely new venue, but Anaheim/the Ducks/Honda Center needs a new scoreboard or jumbotron or whatever you want to call it. It looks like it's from the early 90's (which it is)

Here's the Honda Center's:

Here are some other's to compare:

Calgary

Tampa Bay:

Miami

Washington

[The_Admiral]

It looks like it's from the early 90's (which it is)

If it's any consolation, the game being played on the ice is from 2013.

[monkeypower]

It looks like it's from the early 90's (which it is)

If it's any consolation, the game being played on the ice is from 2013.

Huh?

[Evil G]

Now looking at it, I'd love to see Tampa Bay's for the Ducks.

[bosrs1]

Now looking at it, I'd love to see Tampa Bay's for the Ducks.

Never been a fan of those I shaped boards. They seem less democratic somehow giving the folks on the sidelines better video board views than those at the end lines.

[rams80]

Now looking at it, I'd love to see Tampa Bay's for the Ducks.

Never been a fan of those I shaped boards. They seem less democratic somehow giving the folks on the sidelines better video board views than those at the end lines.

Ummm....no. Just the opposite in fact. It gives better views to more of the sideline fans (which constitutes the majority of fans in attendance) while bringing the video boards closer to those at the endlines.

[dbadefense1990]

Not an entirely new venue, but Anaheim/the Ducks/Honda Center needs a new scoreboard or jumbotron or whatever you want to call it. It looks like it's from the early 90's (which it is)

Here's the Honda Center's:

To give them some slack, they did add that disc-shaped ribbon board on the bottom.

[Cosmic]

Not an entirely new venue, but Anaheim/the Ducks/Honda Center needs a new scoreboard or jumbotron or whatever you want to call it. It looks like it's from the early 90's (which it is)

Here's the Honda Center's:

To give them some slack, they did add that disc-shaped ribbon board on the bottom.

Plus, they've obviously upgraded the screen at some point. It does look old, though.

[leopard88]

New Oakland stadium proposal:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1891390-oakland-as-given-new-waterfront-stadium-proposal-for-consideration?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/matier-ross/article/Oakland-ballpark-backers-tout-waterfront-site-5067603.php#photo-5602727