Teams that need new venues

[NJTank]

It could have been woirse they could have played in Regina

[Cola]

Is Tropicana field the smallest stadium in Major League Baseball? I can't believe the Rays would stick to playing in that fake Japanese Baseball dome!

This might sound crazy, but don't knock it until you try it.

Trust me, I know baseball doesn't feel right inside of a dome. On artificial turf. When I moved here, so many people talked trash about it.

I finally had an opportunity to go to a game (and eventually bought season tickets) and enjoy it much more than most I suppose. I also realize most of those trash talkers don't even go to the games.

Do I want them in Tampa closer to my house? Absolutely. For multiple reasons.

However, the dome works for the Rays due to the sudden hard rain you get every day...and I have to admit, watching a MLB game and drinking a beer in the air conditioning has its perks. Another thing is due to the restraints of being in a dome, you are MUCH closer to the playing surface. Growing up going to Braves games, my dad would buy the cheap seats and you would feel SOOOO high up and far away from the action. Felt that way in Houston, too. There isn't a bad seat in the Trop.

[walby2]

Trust me, I know baseball doesn't feel right inside of a dome. On artificial turf. When I moved here, so many people talked trash about it.

I finally had an opportunity to go to a game (and eventually bought season tickets) and enjoy it much more than most I suppose. I also realize most of those trash talkers don't even go to the games.

People really get caught up in group-think with sports venues. For some reason random things go from being perfectly acceptable to horrible abominations overnight, like fixed roofs and artificial turf.

The Trop is pleasant and 100% functional. It is the height of absurdity to demolish it and replace it with a building that costs hundreds of millions of dollars because fixed roofs are no longer in style. Well, it wouldn't be bad if the team's ownership spent its own money on building a replacement, but we know what the odds of that are.

[The_Admiral]

For some reason random things go from being perfectly acceptable to horrible abominations overnight, like fixed roofs and artificial turf.

This is a thing that didn't happen. People have hated plastic grass for years.

[NEW.ERA]

It could have been woirse they could have played in Regina

Regina's a fine place.

It's kinda too bad, I was looking forward to the Flames playing in Sasky for the first few weeks. If nothing, but to make them worse.

[walby2]

For some reason random things go from being perfectly acceptable to horrible abominations overnight, like fixed roofs and artificial turf.

This is a thing that didn't happen. People have hated plastic grass for years.

People didn't complain about artificial turf the way they do now until the 1990s building boom when teams started looking for reasons to justify getting out of the cookie cutter stadiums. It went from being "wouldn't it be nice if we had grass again someday" in 1992 to "OMG this is the worst thing ever tear this place down now" a decade later.

The current generation of artificial turf looks and feels like the real thing in ways that the old stuff didn't. It's such a trivial difference these days.

[kiwi_canadian]

For some reason random things go from being perfectly acceptable to horrible abominations overnight, like fixed roofs and artificial turf.

This is a thing that didn't happen. People have hated plastic grass for years.

People didn't complain about artificial turf the way they do now until the 1990s building boom when teams started looking for reasons to justify getting out of the cookie cutter stadiums. It went from being "wouldn't it be nice if we had grass again someday" in 1992 to "OMG this is the worst thing ever tear this place down now" a decade later.

The current generation of artificial turf looks and feels like the real thing in ways that the old stuff didn't. It's such a trivial difference these days.

The carpet burn you get when you try to slide tackle is the exact same though. Played soccer on the new style for a season and hated it. It's not as soft and it's hotter than Hades when it's warm and sunny out. Yes it has its perks like low maintenance, but for a player, personally I do not like the stuff.

[Evil G]

Bosse

[Funky Bunky]

new yotk yanks

[Evil G]

I'm bumping this again. Might as well say the Jags should relocate.

[Evil G]

Bump because of Atlanta's idiocy.

[tigerslionspistonshabs]

close thread.

[Evil G]

It's now seeming like the A's need one now. I still like the Cisco Field option, but I don't live in Cali.

[FiddySicks]

Fremont has never made much sense to me for the A's. It's far enough from the current Oakland location to be inconvenient for fans based out of the Oakland area (despite the BART link), and you sure as hell aren't attracting any extra fans from San Jose way up there (mainly due to the lack of BART lines into San Jose). I mean it's only the difference of about 20 miles from the current location, but it's one of those towns that sits directly between the Oakland area and the San Jose area, it's not a desirable location to be at all, and it could only end up just dividing that fan base even further. The A's really would only run into the same problems they're currently facing down the road if they can't get a park right smack in San Jose. And if they can't get that park in downtown San Jose, they should probably start looking for locations outside of the Bay Area. As much as I love the A's, and as much as it would hurt to see them leave, it's really San Jose or bust for them at this point. They've been trying to get a new building for almost as long as I can remember, and the situation in their current location in Oakland has gotten so violent and dangerous that they've simply got to do something.

I'd add where I think they should move, but even I'm getting tired of that same old line

[Cosmic]

Trust me, I know baseball doesn't feel right inside of a dome. On artificial turf. When I moved here, so many people talked trash about it.

I finally had an opportunity to go to a game (and eventually bought season tickets) and enjoy it much more than most I suppose. I also realize most of those trash talkers don't even go to the games.

People really get caught up in group-think with sports venues. For some reason random things go from being perfectly acceptable to horrible abominations overnight, like fixed roofs and artificial turf.

The Trop is pleasant and 100% functional. It is the height of absurdity to demolish it and replace it with a building that costs hundreds of millions of dollars because fixed roofs are no longer in style. Well, it wouldn't be bad if the team's ownership spent its own money on building a replacement, but we know what the odds of that are.

ESPECIALLY in an area that gets a daily 3:00 rain shower in the summer.

[Gothamite]

Then the Tampa Bay fans have lost their last feeble excuse. Time to move them from their failed market into one that might actually give a damn about them.

[bosrs1]

It's now seeming like the A's need one now. I still like the Cisco Field option, but I don't live in Cali.

The A's have needed one for the last 18 years. And Cisco Field is still in the pipeline but still on hold thanks to the Giants. The A's would have opened the place several years ago if not for the Giants.

[bosrs1]

Fremont has never made much sense to me for the A's. It's far enough from the current Oakland location to be inconvenient for fans based out of the Oakland area (despite the BART link), and you sure as hell aren't attracting any extra fans from San Jose way up there (mainly due to the lack of BART lines into San Jose). I mean it's only the difference of about 20 miles from the current location, but it's one of those towns that sits directly between the Oakland area and the San Jose area, it's not a desirable location to be at all, and it could only end up just dividing that fan base even further. The A's really would only run into the same problems they're currently facing down the road if they can't get a park right smack in San Jose. And if they can't get that park in downtown San Jose, they should probably start looking for locations outside of the Bay Area. As much as I love the A's, and as much as it would hurt to see them leave, it's really San Jose or bust for them at this point. They've been trying to get a new building for almost as long as I can remember, and the situation in their current location in Oakland has gotten so violent and dangerous that they've simply got to do something.

I'd add where I think they should move, but even I'm getting tired of that same old line

Wouldn't worry about Fremont. It hasn't been on the table for about 5 years now. When the real estate market died so did any hope of ever reviving Fremont at the original Pacific Common's site (that and the big box retailers next door who also worked to squash it). And the second Fremont site he considered was done in by NIMBYs who still live around the site. That and the NUMMI plant next door to the site didn't close entirely as originally planned when TESLA motors moved in.

No at this point with the city of Oakland being unable to contribute toward a ballpark downtown the only realistic option left in the Bay Area is San Jose. Which is probably why the Giants are fighting it so hard. They can smell having the market to themselves which will be the end result if San Jose fails. It's San Jose or out of town for the A's.

[Gothamite]

That and the Giants owners paid cash money for the territorial rights to San Jose. If the A's want those rights so bad, time to open their wallets.

[bosrs1]

That and the Giants owners paid cash money for the territorial rights to San Jose. If the A's want those rights so bad, time to open their wallets.

They did? Last I checked Bob Lurie paid $0 for the rights to San Jose. He was in fact given them for free by Wally Haas.