Ridleylash Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 And so the new arena deal for Calgary has officially been terminated. Seems like CSEC backed out of the city's agreement with them to cover the overruns on the new arena, which is what caused the split. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwi_canadian Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 It will be interesting to see what Bettman does here. He tends to drop not so subtle hints on cities that need new arenas and always pushes local governments to cover the cost of them. Then if the local governments put up a fight he threatens relocation. With the whole Phoenix situation, I wonder if he will put up a massive fight to keep the Flames in Calgary if it comes down to it? If I read the article on TSN correctly, the reason it got terminated is because neither side signed off on something to do with construction by a certain date which automatically caused the termination. I don't think the Flames owners are going to move the team. It is probably one of the most stable ownerships and markets in the league. I know a few years ago when Brian Burke was their president, he threw out the line about there being a nice new arena in Quebec City that they could move to if a new arena deal didn't get done. In the end, they will pull the same strategy that Katz did and they'll get their new arena. I know when Nansheed was mayor in Calgary, he was very much opposed to the new arena but signed off on it in the end. I think that the new Calgary council will do the same thing in the end. Calgary is Alberta's largest city and with the amount of oil and gas companies there, they won't let the team move. Too much profit there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DustDevil61 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 1 hour ago, kiwi_canadian said: It will be interesting to see what Bettman does here. He tends to drop not so subtle hints on cities that need new arenas and always pushes local governments to cover the cost of them. Then if the local governments put up a fight he threatens relocation. With the whole Phoenix situation, I wonder if he will put up a massive fight to keep the Flames in Calgary if it comes down to it? If I read the article on TSN correctly, the reason it got terminated is because neither side signed off on something to do with construction by a certain date which automatically caused the termination. I don't think the Flames owners are going to move the team. It is probably one of the most stable ownerships and markets in the league. I know a few years ago when Brian Burke was their president, he threw out the line about there being a nice new arena in Quebec City that they could move to if a new arena deal didn't get done. In the end, they will pull the same strategy that Katz did and they'll get their new arena. I know when Nansheed was mayor in Calgary, he was very much opposed to the new arena but signed off on it in the end. I think that the new Calgary council will do the same thing in the end. Calgary is Alberta's largest city and with the amount of oil and gas companies there, they won't let the team move. Too much profit there. I agree, though I could see Bettman and the BoG making more of a threat to Calgary than to Arizona, given their priorities. Quote http://i.imgur.com/Pyc5qRH.gifhttp://i.imgur.com/RDXvxFE.gif LED Sig Credits to packerfan21396 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilbert Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 I know Bettman doesnt want to lose another American market by moving it to Canada, so if for some reason they cant get things done in Calgary, moving the team to Quebec would keep the team in Canada to keep hockey fans happy (except in Calgary), while Arizona can play in an abandoned shed in the middle of an Arizona desert and Gary can remain happy. 2 Quote Signature intentionally left blank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcj882000 Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 The impression I get isn't that the NHL doesn't want a Quebec City team at the expense of an American market; it's more that they don't want a Quebec City team, period. In any event, the Flames have 11 years left on their Saddledome lease, so even if they were considering it, they ain't moving anywhere anytime soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanMcD29 Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Time to drag this back to the usual point of emphasis in this thread 2 Quote Twitter: @RyanMcD29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFGiants58 Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Had Club Rio not been demolished, the Yotes would probably consider playing there. It’d be the most action that place had seen since Jake Plummer got handsy with a server! 1 Quote MLB: Project 32 (Complete), MLB: The Defunct Saga (Complete) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcj882000 Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Wow, I just can't believe Tempe (probably) doesn't want anything to do with the Coyotes either /s 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayMac Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 This is an absolute :censored:show and I'm loving every second of it. Bettman deserves every bit of this. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 20 hours ago, RyanMcD29 said: Time to drag this back to the usual point of emphasis in this thread Can we get at least one Tempe City Council meeting out of this? It won't be the same as Glendale but we need one more of these before the inevitable implosion. For old time's sake. 1 Quote PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerslionspistonshabs Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 I realize I may get absolutely man-handled for even suggesting this, but just a random , probably stupid thought: I know that StateFarm Stadium is in Glendale as well, but is there a possibility they could play there temporarily? The Cards are only there every 2 weeks on average. I'm sure it would be a logistical and organizational nightmare, but just a thought I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacat_12 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 3 hours ago, JayMac said: This is an absolute :censored:show and I'm loving every second of it. Bettman deserves every bit of this. Why exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFGiants58 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 4 hours ago, IceCap said: Can we get at least one Tempe City Council meeting out of this? It won't be the same as Glendale but we need one more of these before the inevitable implosion. For old time's sake. I’ll volunteer to represent the Coyotes while dressed like this: 3 Quote MLB: Project 32 (Complete), MLB: The Defunct Saga (Complete) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Team that doesn't pay taxes is shocked city doesn't want them because they don't pay taxes. 5 Quote PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMU Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 3 hours ago, spartacat_12 said: Why exactly? Google the definition of insanity. Then Google how many chances the Coyotes franchise has had after moving from Winnipeg. Then crawl out from under a rock. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacat_12 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 41 minutes ago, LMU said: Google the definition of insanity. Then Google how many chances the Coyotes franchise has had after moving from Winnipeg. Then crawl out from under a rock. I'm fully aware of the situation, but I will never understand some hockey fans' obsession with relishing the failures of certain franchises/markets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayMac Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 21 minutes ago, spartacat_12 said: I'm fully aware of the situation, but I will never understand some hockey fans' obsession with relishing the failures of certain franchises/markets. I'm relishing in the fact that the franchise has had many opportunities to show that they deserve to have a home in Arizona, because it's one of Bettman's babies, and they have failed every time. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMU Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 hour ago, spartacat_12 said: I'm fully aware of the situation, but I will never understand some hockey fans' obsession with relishing the failures of certain franchises/markets. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poetic_justice 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAD! Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 2 hours ago, JayMac said: I'm relishing in the fact that the franchise has had many opportunities to show that they deserve to have a home in Arizona, because it's one of Bettman's babies, and they have failed every time. It's the kid that, by now, should at least graduate from college, be able to be reasonably self-sufficient, pay their taxes, and any outstanding debts.... only then will they be able to obtain property and pay off the mortgage. 2 Quote I saw, I came, I left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFGiants58 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 If the ‘Yotes were a kid, they’d be the one who gets banned from every furry convention for “being too smelly” and “rudeness toward convention staff.” 5 Quote MLB: Project 32 (Complete), MLB: The Defunct Saga (Complete) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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