Recommended Posts

2 hours ago, MJWalker45 said:

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2016/5/31/11819008/nfl-pro-bowl-hawaii-move-orlando-disney-world-2017

Goodbye Honolulu!!! Hello AFC vs NFC. This was a necessary move and I think this would make the game more attractive if they lower the ticket prices and make the players more accessible, similar to fan access at training camps. 

From what I hear, the practices will be held at Disney World's ESPN Wide World of Sports complex.  Its possible there could be some fan events there too.

 

Since I am in Tampa, I would consider a nice weekend trip to Orlando for the game if tix are reasonable.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, MJWalker45 said:

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2016/5/31/11819008/nfl-pro-bowl-hawaii-move-orlando-disney-world-2017

Goodbye Honolulu!!! Hello AFC vs NFC. This was a necessary move and I think this would make the game more attractive if they lower the ticket prices and make the players more accessible, similar to fan access at training camps. 

Orlando also got the week 3 Dolphins preseason game against Atlanta. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

For those that overlooked it, that article mentioned that Goodell tried to put an end to the Pro Bowl, with the NFLPA fighting to keep it around.

 

So for those that want to blame Goodell for this, he's off the hook.  The players themselves want to hit each other in an exhibition contest for a bonus check.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, HedleyLamarr said:

For those that overlooked it, that article mentioned that Goodell tried to put an end to the Pro Bowl, with the NFLPA fighting to keep it around.

 

So for those that want to blame Goodell for this, he's off the hook.  The players themselves want to hit each other in an exhibition contest for a bonus check.

 

which is baffling since so many of them do whatever possible to get out of it (as would I, unless I was broke and really needed the check.)

 

I'm curious how much they actually get for the game, and if it would be feasible to just have a portion of that paid out as a bonus in exchange for the PA allowing the game to go away.  I can't imagine that they'd receive any lower amount in TV rights if they got rid of the game.  It's not like ESPN is like "well, we would have gone to $5 billion, but you want to get rid of the pro-bowl so $100K is our best and final offer."

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
8 minutes ago, BringBackTheVet said:

 

which is baffling since so many of them do whatever possible to get out of it (as would I, unless I was broke and really needed the check.)

 

I'm curious how much they actually get for the game, and if it would be feasible to just have a portion of that paid out as a bonus in exchange for the PA allowing the game to go away.  I can't imagine that they'd receive any lower amount in TV rights if they got rid of the game.  It's not like ESPN is like "well, we would have gone to $5 billion, but you want to get rid of the pro-bowl so $100K is our best and final offer."

 

 

Winners got $58,000 this past year, losers got half of that.

 

Think about your average NFL player.  Maybe three years in the league, is getting paid well below $1 million a season, and only receives a check during a 4-6 month stretch of the year when your contract isn't guaranteed of being played out.  For them, getting a minimum $30,000 check for three hours of half-assed work at a resort paradise isn't such a bad thing.  That's probably the angle the NFLPA went with.

 

The big-name players, for the most part, scoff at that and would rather stay at home or do whatever.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
12 hours ago, BringBackTheVet said:

 

This isn't totally correct. 

 

18 regular season games would cause TV deals to increase (along with game-day revenue) which would lead to an increase in cap room which would lead to more pay for those extra two games. 

 

It would likely lead to a couple extra roster spots as well, so there's definitely an impact. It's not like they're telling the players to work OT for no extra pay. 

 

I don't know if it's mathematically feasible, but has anybody floated the idea of a 17 game schedule?  If they had an odd number of regular season games they could have a whole slate of neutral site games, without any team having to put themselves at the disadvantage of giving up a home game.  Every week, two teams would play one... you could do 4 in London, a couple in Berlin, Toronto, Vancouver, Mexico City... hell, Tokyo. I'm picturing 3 preseason (one preseason neutral site game that would be domestic... play in college stadiums or in NFL-less cities) and 17 regular season games, with every team traveling out of country once.  It would definitely make money.

 

Of course, it's entirely possible that there is no way to mathematically schedule 32 teams into 17 games, in which case... never mind.  (My degree is an art, not math, obviously.)

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
27 minutes ago, BringBackTheVet said:

 

which is baffling since so many of them do whatever possible to get out of it (as would I, unless I was broke and really needed the check.)

 

I'm curious how much they actually get for the game, and if it would be feasible to just have a portion of that paid out as a bonus in exchange for the PA allowing the game to go away.  I can't imagine that they'd receive any lower amount in TV rights if they got rid of the game.  It's not like ESPN is like "well, we would have gone to $5 billion, but you want to get rid of the pro-bowl so $100K is our best and final offer."

 

 

It's in the CBA.

 

Winning team gets $67K next year; losers get $34K. Wifes (only wives) get free first class airfare and meal allowance.  If you get hurt during the game, your contracted club is tesponsiblr for their weekly salary based on games missed.

 

Incentive clauses vary by player and contract.

 

And it's a hell of a lot cheaper to take your whole family to Orlando for that week as opposed to Honolulu.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So, Von Miller is still holding out despite being offered a 6-year, $114 million deal? I'm legitimately scratching my head, because that's a LOT of money.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
16 minutes ago, Dolphins Dynasty said:

So, Von Miller is still holding out despite being offered a 6-year, $114 million deal? I'm legitimately scratching my head, because that's a LOT of money.

It is only $38-39M in guaranteed money over the first two years. The rest is a series of team options, per Yahoo's Charles Robinson.

 

For comparison, Suh got over $58M in guarantees last year and this offseason, Olivier Vernon got $52.5M in guaranteed money from the Giants.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On June 1, 2016 at 2:56 PM, AstroBull21 said:

From what I hear, the practices will be held at Disney World's ESPN Wide World of Sports complex.  Its possible there could be some fan events there too.

 

Since I am in Tampa, I would consider a nice weekend trip to Orlando for the game if tix are reasonable.

 

Meh, not worth it. I've been five times (four in Honolulu and once in Arizona), and it's been worse every year. The last one in AZ was particularly awful. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
13 hours ago, dfwabel said:

Olivier Vernon got $52.5M in guaranteed money from the Giants.

 

This is the head-scratcher.  Really skews the market, so no wonder he's holding out. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Eagles just gave Fletcher Cox $63M guaranteed.  

 

$103M is the "total" deal, not that the total number means anything.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On ‎6‎/‎8‎/‎2016 at 8:32 PM, Dolphins Dynasty said:

So, Von Miller is still holding out despite being offered a 6-year, $114 million deal? I'm legitimately scratching my head, because that's a LOT of money.

 

The longer Von holds out -- the more ridiculous contracts given to slightly-above-average players -- the more Von stands to make come 2017.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The Eagles have given out 280M in guaranteed money this offseason.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On June 1, 2016 at 9:04 PM, oldschoolvikings said:

 

I don't know if it's mathematically feasible, but has anybody floated the idea of a 17 game schedule?  If they had an odd number of regular season games they could have a whole slate of neutral site games, without any team having to put themselves at the disadvantage of giving up a home game.  Every week, two teams would play one... you could do 4 in London, a couple in Berlin, Toronto, Vancouver, Mexico City... hell, Tokyo. I'm picturing 3 preseason (one preseason neutral site game that would be domestic... play in college stadiums or in NFL-less cities) and 17 regular season games, with every team traveling out of country once.  It would definitely make money.

 

Of course, it's entirely possible that there is no way to mathematically schedule 32 teams into 17 games, in which case... never mind.  (My degree is an art, not math, obviously.)

 

They can easily add a 17th game if they wanted to (I don't think the players are interested, though). They don't even have to be neutral site games. Each team can play an additional inter-conference game with the NFC teams all hosting. That way all NFC teams play 9 home games/8 road games and all AFC teams play 8 home games/9 road games. Since NFC teams don't compete with AFC teams for playoff spots and seeding, no team is at a competitive disadvantage by playing extra road games. The next year, the AFC teams would host the extra inter-conference game.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The Browns QB jersey is retired:

i?img=%2Fphoto%2F2016%2F0620%2Fr94684_60

 

It's a new day in Cleveland.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
27 minutes ago, Cosmic said:

The Browns QB jersey is retired:

i?img=%2Fphoto%2F2016%2F0620%2Fr94684_60

 

It's a new day in Cleveland.

the cavs success doesn't make the browns 18 years of futility just go away

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.