Ferdinand Cesarano Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 On 12/8/2018 at 8:35 AM, the admiral said: Fans would be attracted to all those things if the teams weren't filled by CFL/arena rejects. (I am just catching up with this thread; hence my response to a comment from several months ago.) I must say that I really dislike this comment. Even if we accept that the majority of lower-league players could not play in the NFL or the CFL, the fact remains that those players are still elite athletes. Someone who is 80% of NFL quality is nevertheless performing at an extraordinarily high level; and we see any number of individual performances in the AAF and all the indoor leagues that demonstrate this fact. These players should not be regarded as "rejects", or equivalent to a guy who was cut from his high school team. Furthermore, there are only so many jobs in the NFL and CFL; and only a tiny percentage of all the football players who are talented enough to play in those leagues ever get the opportunity. Notwithstanding all the scientific pretense involved in using metrics at scouting combines, scouting is in fact very dependent upon the dominant conventions (a polite way of saying "prejudices"). And even the metrics themselves become a kind of mythology; a slavish reliance on sprint times and bench presses tells us nothing about the many intangible qualities that make up a competitor. For every NFL or CFL player, there are dozens to hundreds of other players (depending on the position) who could do the job equally well. These guys wind up playing in the AAF and other lower leagues. The AAF has been successful in presenting high-level competition in a way that is interesting for spectators. The relatively good television ratings are very encouraging, and indicate that plenty of people see these players not as rejects, but, rather, as the quality professionals they are. The XFL will also be drawing players from the enormous pool of high-quality players who do not have NFL or CFL jobs. If that league fails to match the AAF's modest success, this will be for reasons other than the level of talent available. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideRight Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 11 hours ago, Brian in Boston said: The Stallions name is not only already used by a professional sports franchise, it's currently being sported by a team in the other alternative football league. Just saying that there are no "Stallions" in the Big 4(5) sports. The fact that the AAF used it as a name testifies to my point that a "classic" name can be a good choice for a pro team in a startup league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideRight Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 4 hours ago, BringBackTheVet said: Many of the "classics" sound like they were for teams that were named by a bunch of old white guys back in the 20s - fitting, because at the time, the players were all "all american" white guys that looked straight out of a Rockwell painting. It's 2019, and it's unlikely that if given the choice, neither the players nor the younger fans would come up with "pioneers" for a team name. I shudder at the thought of singular team names, but I also think that a new team in a new league might be better served being with the times and not playing "O6 Dress up" with it's name. There's a balance between going with something that has some kind of local significance, and something that's relevant to the younger fans and players. With any new team, regardless of the league, it's said that it takes a generation to grow your fan base (unless you're a Florida baseball team), so why not go with something that hooks the youngsters? So the question is, should a league focus on attracting 20 year olds or 45 year olds? My vote would be for 45 year olds, with families, as the primary audience. You don't want to alienate the younger audience, but by remaining attractive to the 45 year old mom & dad who will pay for themselves and 2-3 kids to attend a game you build a league that hopefully will lock in fans for decades. I suspect that the Tampa Bay Sharks would draw better and sell more merch than the Tampa Bay Mystery Ships ever would, and way more than the Tampa Bay Krunk Xtremes. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugevolsfan Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Tampa Bay Sails I think would be a good name if you are wanting to play off the ship/pirate theme of the stadium. You could give me about ten minutes & I could come up with a lot better names than probably what they will come up with though! 1 Quote My Fictional Football League Version 3 My Fictional Football Leagues WebsiteMy Church Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo_prankster Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Name predictions: Austin Rattlesnakes (instead of Dallas) Houston Drillers Los Angeles Terminators New York Superheroes Tampa Bay Bubbas St Louis Psychos Seattle Grunge Washington Weasels Quote The Fictional Story of Austus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matito Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 58 minutes ago, neo_prankster said: Name predictions: Austin Rattlesnakes (instead of Dallas) Houston Drillers Los Angeles Terminators New York Superheroes Tampa Bay Bubbas St Louis Psychos Seattle Grunge Washington Weasels Indiana can take Bubba back. We don't want him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo_prankster Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Matito said: Indiana can take Bubba back. We don't want him. Worn out his welcome, didn't he? Quote The Fictional Story of Austus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sykotyk Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 4 hours ago, neo_prankster said: Name predictions: Austin Rattlesnakes (instead of Dallas) Houston Drillers Los Angeles Terminators New York Superheroes Tampa Bay Bubbas St Louis Psychos Seattle Grunge Washington Weasels Um.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehijar69 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 DC Senators New York Knights Tampa Bay Bramas St. Louis Stallions Dallas Banditos Houston Outlaws LA Demons Seattle Shipmen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyersfan Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 3 hours ago, ehijar69 said: DC Senators New York Knights Tampa Bay Bramas St. Louis Stallions Dallas Banditos Houston Outlaws LA Demons Seattle Shipmen Houston outlaws is an overwatch league team name... (yes it’s a actually a big deal look up the OWL size) New York knights just LOOKS too close to the knicks so that’s probably also a no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Cesarano Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 9 minutes ago, flyersfan said: New York knights just LOOKS too close to the knicks so that’s probably also a no There have been two Knights teams in New York. The New York Knights of the Arena Football League in 1988: ...and the New York / New Jersey Knights of the WLAF in 1991 and 1992. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 There will only ever be one “New York Knights”. 12 Quote The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skycast Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 On 3/12/2019 at 9:13 AM, Ferdinand Cesarano said: (I am just catching up with this thread; hence my response to a comment from several months ago.) I must say that I really dislike this comment. I'm right there with you man, as long as the talent level is fairly equal from team to team some great and entertaining football can be played. Just look at all levels of college and even down to high school...fun stuff and the vast majority of those players ARE NOT NFL caliber. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrumptious Ham Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Vince already has an angle for the league. He's catering to the anti-protest crowd. I expect some overly American names. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel75 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Tampa Bay should be called the Sharks. Just sayin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wings Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 My list of stupid team names: Dallas Pride Houston Energy Los Angles Glitz New York Intensity St. Louis Legacy Seattle Noise Tampa Bay Passion DC Democracy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH42XCC Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 My XFL team name ideas: Dallas Armadillos Houston Wildcatters Los Angeles Bulldogs New York Guardians St. Louis Explorers Seattle Sea Kings Tampa Bay Sharks Washington Ambassadors 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matito Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 On 3/12/2019 at 3:01 PM, neo_prankster said: Worn out his welcome, didn't he? I don't know many respectable people who ever liked him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grish Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Seattle Seismics or Beasts. Quote "Try not to have a good time ... This is supposed to be educational."- Charles Schulz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDAWG Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 On 3/14/2019 at 5:52 PM, Wings said: My list of stupid team names: Dallas Pride Houston Energy Los Angles Glitz New York Intensity St. Louis Legacy Seattle Noise Tampa Bay Passion DC Democracy I'm going to go one step further and name the XFL teams after pro wrestling: Dallas Claw (Fritz Von Erich's finisher) Houston Suckas Los Angeles Superstars New York Powerslams St. Louis Vipers (Randy Orton) Seattle Vegans (Daniel Bryan) Tampa Bay Sky Pirates DC Animals (Batista) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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