GDAWG Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJWalker45 Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 21 hours ago, tp49 said: Dredging this up because with the announcement that Moreno is now exploring selling the team, I can't help but think the fiasco involved in this thread is the main reason why. https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/angels-owner-arte-moreno-exploring-potential-sale-what-it-would-mean-for-the-halos-and-shohei-ohtani/ I think if he goes and they stay, whomever comes in better be ready to get whatever they need in the door to get them to the World Series. I'm a Guardians fan so it's no skin off me if they remain stagnant, but Trout and Ohtani deserve more than what they're getting from ownership now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMU Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Let’s keep that Arte hate train rolling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeypower Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Hoo boy Arte... It will be good when he is gone. He did a lot for the team and then did just as much, if not more, in the opposite direction. Complicated legacy is right. Will a new owner fix everything? Probably not, but we can only hope it couldn't be worse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 I’ll just put it here that whoever buys the Angels is absolutely going to move them out of Orange County. I think a dude like Steve Balmer may be a pretty decent fit. Also lol at Lacob getting them. Oakland Angels FTW. Also, I have to say this much, too. For as bad as Arte was, I have to point out that part of that “Good riddance” article is just straight up inaccurate. Hamilton, I’ll give you. That was a bad signing. But Lincecum as an example of one of the Angels bad signings is kinda laughable considering how toast everyone knew he was (and so did the Angels, and that’s why they gave him a tiny deal and he started out in AAA), and Rendon wasn’t by any means thought to be “past his prime”. I’ll give you that Arte has made some really bad decisions, but some of those signings are just bum luck. Also, there’s still time for Rendon! What should be looked at as more damning than any signing is the the Skaggs nightmare. That’s the that shows the real lack of organizational control. Bad signings are one thing, but the Angels problems run WAY deeper than any of that. Quote On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorWhom Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Angels need a thorough cleansing, top to bottom. Hopefully new ownership will do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadmanLA Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 I can't see leaving the Angels leaving Southern California, and in particular the Los Angeles/Orange Counties media market. Maybe the next potential owner can re-negotiate a legit (i.e. not "greasing the palms") stadium deal with the city of Anaheim, or if all else fails there, Long Beach has been an option that was mentioned as recent as a few months ago. There's an article in yesterday's Long Beach Press-Telegram that reiterated what their mayor said back in May, right after the stadium sale with Anaheim broke down, that he and the city council would be re-open to negotiate a stadium deal there. However, the writers in the article stated that the Angels could even be years away from getting a new owner, leaving to the idea that a potential new owner could still keep the team in Anaheim. After this season, the Angels still have six years left with their lease with Angel Stadium, with the option to extend the lease to 2038--which by then, the current stadium would be 72 years old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harney Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 On 8/25/2022 at 6:48 PM, MadmanLA said: I can't see leaving the Angels leaving Southern California, and in particular the Los Angeles/Orange Counties media market. Maybe the next potential owner can re-negotiate a legit (i.e. not "greasing the palms") stadium deal with the city of Anaheim, or if all else fails there, Long Beach has been an option that was mentioned as recent as a few months ago. There's an article in yesterday's Long Beach Press-Telegram that reiterated what their mayor said back in May, right after the stadium sale with Anaheim broke down, that he and the city council would be re-open to negotiate a stadium deal there. However, the writers in the article stated that the Angels could even be years away from getting a new owner, leaving to the idea that a potential new owner could still keep the team in Anaheim. After this season, the Angels still have six years left with their lease with Angel Stadium, with the option to extend the lease to 2038--which by then, the current stadium would be 72 years old. If Oakland manages to avoid their current collision course with Las Vegas, then the Angels could jump over. Is second fiddle in LA better than top dog in LV? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Yes, it is; the Angels draw 3 million a year and southern California is actually a pleasant place to live. The only team that was better off for leaving Los Angeles was the Raiders, and that was because an idiosyncratic stadium situation and the NFL's blackout rules made it a fundamentally flawed enterprise. (Add the Chargers when they finally give up.) 3 Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDAWG Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 6 hours ago, harney said: If Oakland manages to avoid their current collision course with Las Vegas, then the Angels could jump over. Is second fiddle in LA better than top dog in LV? The Angels are not moving outside of the Greater Los Angeles area. They will get a new ballpark somewhere in the Greater Los Angeles area. If Las Vegas doesn't get an existing team, they will likely be first in line to get an MLB expansion team, because of course they will be. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 10 hours ago, GDAWG said: If Las Vegas doesn't get an existing team, they will likely be first in line to get an MLB expansion team, because of course they will be. https://www.vox.com/2022/8/28/23322006/climate-change-heat-wave-phoenix-drought-housing-population Quote It won’t be easy, though, and the more extreme climate conditions become, the more difficult it is to adapt. Lake Powell and Lake Mead — the two biggest artificial reservoirs in the US, which help supply water to 40 million people — are now at just around 27 percent of capacity. Poorer residents are less able to afford the air conditioning that can make desert heat bearable, while agriculture — which accounts for the vast majority of water consumption in the American West — will keep draining dwindling supplies. Dumbass country. 3 Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAD! Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 5 hours ago, the admiral said: https://www.vox.com/2022/8/28/23322006/climate-change-heat-wave-phoenix-drought-housing-population Dumbass country. Quote And if you’re in the market for a move, give Buffalo a thought! It has new apartments, new jobs, even new people, along with something that will become increasingly rare in the future: snow. 1 Quote I saw, I came, I left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaGlowin Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 "Can I interest you in Syracuse, New York, or Cleveland, Ohio — two cities considered to be climate havens..." Say what? not for me they ain't 1 Quote Last updated 5/23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digby Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 The Angels have had all this stadium angst, crappy ownership and play second-fiddle to the dynastic team of our time, but despite that have drawn relatively well and caught at least some coattails of being in a big market. So I don't see much value in moving them out of the market entirely (as long as they don't try to get cute with DTLA, which seems like suicide). They've always been a strong-if-unspectacular franchise during times of competent stewardship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DustDevil61 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 I don’t see the Angels leaving Southern California, but even if they did somehow beat the A’s to Las Vegas, I could see a scenario similar to the contraction talks circa 2000 where the A’s ultimately take up residence in Anaheim. In this day and age, the greater Los Angeles area will not be left without 2 teams. 2 Quote http://i.imgur.com/Pyc5qRH.gifhttp://i.imgur.com/RDXvxFE.gif LED Sig Credits to packerfan21396 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont care Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 5 hours ago, Digby said: The Angels have had all this stadium angst, crappy ownership and play second-fiddle to the dynastic team of our time, but despite that have drawn relatively well and caught at least some coattails of being in a big market. So I don't see much value in moving them out of the market entirely (as long as they don't try to get cute with DTLA, which seems like suicide). They've always been a strong-if-unspectacular franchise during times of competent stewardship. Is winning one championship and coming up short the rest of the time make them the “dynastic team of our time” what ever that’s suppose to mean 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 They're the '90s Braves with even more money but an anti-superstation. 1 Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastBias Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 No way the Angels leave the Los Angeles market, that'd be the stupidest thing the team has ever done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 2 hours ago, WestCoastBias said: No way the Angels leave the Los Angeles market, that'd be the stupidest thing the team has ever done. You'd see the LA Rays (of Anaheim) within a decade. The Rays may even take the existing park in as-is condition. 2 1 Quote "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kooky01 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 1 hour ago, BBTV said: You'd see the LA Rays (of Anaheim) within a decade. The Rays may even take the existing park in as-is condition. You might be on the something. Move the Rays to Anaheim and the Angels to Montreal. There, perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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