Gothamite Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 I think those big wordmarks are best left in college. Like ska music and taking Ayn Rand seriously. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VDizzle12 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 3 hours ago, dont care said: I’m really scared for these uniforms. Especially since “old school feel with a modern twist” could apply to the current trash with the certain spin. Agree completely. What could be done to the previous uniforms to make them "modern." Anything I can think of would be awful. - Modern number font - Metallic elements - Huge wordmarks in weird places - Patterns - Logos added to front of jersey, sleeves, pants etc. - Contrasting stitching - Modern wordmark - Bolder colors Sound familiar? But maybe we're overreacting and it just means an old school design on a new jersey cut. Just find it hard to believe that Nike/NFL/Browns would just admit their designs were horrible and revert back without trying to overcompensate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old School Fool Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 9 hours ago, Gothamite said: I think those big wordmarks are best left in college. Like ska music and taking Ayn Rand seriously. Hey, don't knock Ska. I mean, I'm not the biggest fan and I understand it can be repetitive but there is some good stuff in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentColon2 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 You know we’re getting these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobbi Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, AgentColon2 said: You know we’re getting these. Much like the preseason roster, the designers need to earn their stripes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSU151 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 9 hours ago, Gothamite said: I think those big wordmarks are best left in college. Like ska music and taking Ayn Rand seriously. Sounds like someone never actually read Ayn Rand. Her objections to collectivism and statism (she was a proud atheist who promoted capitalism...oh the horror!!!!!!) shouldn’t “be left in college”. Smart is believing half of what you hear. Genius is knowing which half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 53 minutes ago, WSU151 said: Sounds like someone never actually read Ayn Rand. Her objections to collectivism and statism (she was a proud atheist who promoted capitalism...oh the horror!!!!!!) shouldn’t “be left in college”. Oh, I am all too familiar with the Patron Saint of Selfishness. It’s an open question which is the more offensive: her philosophy, or her prose. But that was actually a reference to an old John Oliver bit. I just cleaned it up a little. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSU151 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Her philosophy of individual property rights isn't really offensive. It's more or less reality. People who escaped communism in Russia are big fans of Ayn Rand for some reason. I mean, if you believe in trademarks and copyright and other individual/personal property rights, then Ayn Rand is not wrong. Voting in elections for your own self-interests is a key part of democracy, and this self-interest and self-determination are key points of Rand's writings. Thinking people won't be selfish or protective of their own property is alternate-reality stuff. But I'm sure you know more because you watch John Oliver. Samantha Bee must be like a god to you. Thanks for "cleaning up" John Oliver for this political message board. Much needed. Smart is believing half of what you hear. Genius is knowing which half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Ho-kay.... We’ll see if the Browns have enough enlightened self-interest to bring back their old uniforms without somehow screwing them up. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashcarson15 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 We're done talking about Ayn Rand, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sealbrownandorange Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 51 minutes ago, crashcarson15 said: We're done talking about Ayn Rand, I think. I hope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Tryin' to change the subject here. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenTino Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 After years of threads being Cleve-jacked, one that’s actually about Cleveland gets Rand-sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLEstones Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 7 hours ago, Gothamite said: Ho-kay.... We’ll see if the Browns have enough enlightened self-interest to bring back their old uniforms without somehow screwing them up. I don't want their exact previous uniforms to come back, but an upgrade version of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, CLEstones said: I don't want their exact previous uniforms to come back, but an upgrade version of them. ...and that’s how teams screw up what should the return of a traditional set. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digby Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 6 hours ago, crashcarson15 said: We're done talking about Ayn Rand, I think. What about the ska music part? I will fight anyone who speaks ill of Desmond Dekker. Fan Style ShirtsShowcasing fan-made sports apparel by artists and designers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFGiants58 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Digby said: What about the ska music part? I will fight anyone who speaks ill of Desmond Dekker. What about The Toasters? New York Fever is a classic example of third wave ska. MLB: Project 32 (Complete), MLB: The Defunct Saga (Complete) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLEstones Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 15 hours ago, Gothamite said: ...and that’s how teams screw up what should the return of a traditional set. I honestly think the current uniforms was a solid base for what could have been. They obviously turned things up to 11 for no real reason. However, the old set just looked a little washed out. I do like the orangier orange, I think that is something that can be upgraded. I also didnt like how the stripes on the sleeves went W/O/W/O/W on the brown jersey and B/O/B/O/B. Haslem clearly wants more orange in the uniforms, so doing O/B/O or O/W/O would scratch that itch. I think reinforcing the 3-sided stripe was a good idea, especially since the team doesn't have any sort of real logo or identity. I also think taking the custom font from the wordmark and making that the number/NOB font would be huge for consistency. Not only that, the wordmark font is much closer to a traditional block than the nonsense pointed serifs they have currently. Last, putting some sort of matte or satin finish on the helmet, in my opinion, would be a great update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Who dares speak ill of the Specials and the [English] Beat? ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sport Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 13 hours ago, CLEstones said: I honestly think the current uniforms was a solid base for what could have been. They obviously turned things up to 11 for no real reason. However, the old set just looked a little washed out. I do like the orangier orange, I think that is something that can be upgraded. I also didnt like how the stripes on the sleeves went W/O/W/O/W on the brown jersey and B/O/B/O/B. Haslem clearly wants more orange in the uniforms, so doing O/B/O or O/W/O would scratch that itch. I think reinforcing the 3-sided stripe was a good idea, especially since the team doesn't have any sort of real logo or identity. I also think taking the custom font from the wordmark and making that the number/NOB font would be huge for consistency. Not only that, the wordmark font is much closer to a traditional block than the nonsense pointed serifs they have currently. Last, putting some sort of matte or satin finish on the helmet, in my opinion, would be a great update. That's the classic Browns sleeve stripe, though. If you don't use that then it's not "old school feel". I'd be open to the separated stripes on the brown jersey from the Kosar and the 99-05 years. as long as they don't do that ^ with the pants stripe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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