FGM13 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Zephyrs was such a great name though 3 Quote GO OILERS-GO BLUE JAYS-GO ESKIMOS-GO COLTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSU151 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 2 hours ago, B-Rich said: More on the Brandiose front; the New Orleans Zephyrs organization has put out a teaser ad stating that the new name/logo is to be announced November 15th. Previously it was announced (not widely) that of the 7 listed this summer, it was down to 3 finalists: Baby Cakes, Po' Boys and Night Owls. The following graphic teaser, I think, may be not just hinting at the new name but giving it away: The use of 'BOYS (with the obvious apostrophe) pushes the idea that it will be Po' Boys. But what about the slight color differences in the background? Not sure what the darker shape is on the left-- it appears to be a close-up of a logo element-- but the lighter shape in the upper right appears to be the bottom of the Zephyrs' traditional 'Z". Looks like an homage to the ornate steelwork in the city (a la New Orleans NBA All Star logos). Quote Smart is believing half of what you hear. Genius is knowing which half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seadragon76 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 With all the mind tricks here, I wouldn't be shocked if they go with Po' Baby Owlz. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaumatrope Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 2 hours ago, Seadragon76 said: With all the mind tricks here, I wouldn't be shocked if they go with Po' Baby Owlz. Those Po' Baby Owlz just can't catch a break. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sport Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 This is the logo package I did for a fantasy team called the Night Owls a few months back. It'll be interesting to see Brandiose's take on the same name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 11 hours ago, KittSmith_95 said: The shtick has rubbed off not because the logos aren't creative, but the fact everything is now formulaic. At 1st, the identities were unique enough to work, but that niche is gone. Yeah, they're doing EVERY SINGLE TEAM, and doing it the same way every time. Every team at every level can't be the Montgomery Biscuits. Someone has to take someone aside somewhere and explain how and why Yard Goats and Rumble Ponies are word vomit, or that you don't italicize a building, or that nobody within your city, let alone outside it, gives a damn what your "_____ City" nickname is and never will. 7 Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 7 minutes ago, the admiral said: Yeah, they're doing EVERY SINGLE TEAM, and doing it the same way every time. Every team at every level can't be the Montgomery Biscuits. Someone has to take someone aside somewhere and explain how and why Yard Goats and Rumble Ponies are word vomit, or that you don't italicize a building, or that nobody within your city, let alone outside it, gives a damn what your "_____ City" nickname is and never will. But marketing degrees! Quote On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Cesarano Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 1 hour ago, the admiral said: Yeah, they're doing EVERY SINGLE TEAM, and doing it the same way every time. Every team at every level can't be the Montgomery Biscuits. Someone has to take someone aside somewhere and explain how and why Yard Goats and Rumble Ponies are word vomit, or that you don't italicize a building, or that nobody within your city, let alone outside it, gives a damn what your "_____ City" nickname is and never will. My hope is that these silly excesses will eventually bring about a correction whereby minor league teams start being called "Tigers" or "Pirates" or "Giants" -- you know, like baseball teams -- and start looking like their parent clubs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSU151 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 6 hours ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said: My hope is that these silly excesses will eventually bring about a correction whereby minor league teams start being called "Tigers" or "Pirates" or "Giants" -- you know, like baseball teams -- and start looking like their parent clubs. There is a happy medium where the minor league team has the same nickname as the parent, but the logos and wordmarks are different than the parent. Though I love Studio Simon's work with the Daytona Tortugas, the last iteration of the Daytona Cubs was pretty good. Parent affiliated, but not logo-copied. 1 Quote Smart is believing half of what you hear. Genius is knowing which half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaumatrope Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 10 hours ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said: My hope is that these silly excesses will eventually bring about a correction whereby minor league teams start being called "Tigers" or "Pirates" or "Giants" -- you know, like baseball teams -- and start looking like their parent clubs. Honestly that's my biggest fear. I can easily see a number of organizations facing such a huge backlash from their fans (or witnessing the negative fallout faced by other organizations) and opting to go with the "safest" branding possible, ie using the exact same identity as the parent club. While I agree that Brandiose has taken their formula way too far, its worth pointing out that using the parent club's identity can be just as disastrous (see OKC Dodgers and Grand Junction Rockies). As @WSU151 said, there's got to be a happy medium that exists somewhere between the Po' Baby Owlz and the Big League Generics. One of the great things about minor league baseball is that its a vibrant part of communities across the country, and I believe having a name that reflects the community helps to make that relationship even stronger. I think most of the board sees Brandiose taking this to cartoonishly ridiculous extremes (with a very transparent motivation to push merchandise), but advocating for a complete denial of individual identity is just taking things to extremes in opposite directions. If I could offer up one potential solution: I really like how the LA Kings have branded their minor league affiliates (Reign, Monarchs, Royals, etc.), and I don't see any reason why other organizations couldn't be just as clever. Pittsburgh for example could have affiliates named the Corsairs, Marauders, Sea Wolves, etc. Miami's affiliates could all be named after sporting fish, Detroit's could all be big cats, Oakland's could be alphabetical. I realize this is a personal opinion, but I find that there's greater creative potential when you create constraints for yourself. Otherwise you end up with thin and flaccid ideas that lack the rigor to survive the test of time...kinda like Rumble Ponies. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmac Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 On 11/4/2016 at 0:00 PM, B-Rich said: New one just released. Okay, now they're just screwing with us... Of course, referencing the "Night Owls" finalist. Cheesy. Bet the next one says "Our new name really takes the cake!" (Baby Cakes) On this teaser, I think we are seeing a stylized fleur-de-lis in the back ground. You were close. Today's teaser reads: "Oh baby, you're going to love our new look." 1 Quote https://www.behance.net/bmatukewic8043 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittSmith_95 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 Ugh. Puns. Just give us the identity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Cesarano Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 6 hours ago, Thaumatrope said: While I agree that Brandiose has taken their formula way too far, its worth pointing out that using the parent club's identity can be just as disastrous (see OKC Dodgers and Grand Junction Rockies). Those two teams should be held up as ideals. The uniforms identify the teams with their organisations, and the cap logos are unique to them, but within the aesthetic of the uniform style. It wouldn't be so bad if a few minor league teams here and there had their own separate identities, such as the longstanding Durham Bulls and others of that sort. But the aesthetic universe would be a much better place if 95% of the minor league teams took the approach that Oklahoma City and Grand Junction have taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGM13 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 I usually don't like minor league teams taking too much after their major league affiliates, but I love that OKC Dodgers hat. 1 Quote GO OILERS-GO BLUE JAYS-GO ESKIMOS-GO COLTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinsUp1214 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 I always thought it was kind of neat when a team would share a name with their affiliate, but make their own identity out of it. The old Provo Angels were a great example of that: Not saying it was a perfect uniform - I wouldn't have had both "Provo" and "Angels" on the jersey, for starters - but I do like that they did their own thing with the name rather than wearing a letter-modified copy of (then) Anaheim's uniform. Infact, they've looked more like the Angels since becoming the Orem Owlz* than they ever did as the Provo Angels. *Yes, ridiculous name, I know. Not every Utahan is keen on the state's "Z" obsession. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rich Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 On 11/5/2016 at 3:43 PM, Bmac said: You were close. Today's teaser reads: "Oh baby, you're going to love our new look." The two most recent teases: referencing "Baby Cakes"; looks like the top left edge of a fleur-de-lis on right side.... Pretty sure that is referencing the stupid early name "Red Eyes", re: crawfish, which is not only physically incorrect but also used by NO ONE... With this hint, they are now going back to ones which supposedly didn't even make the "final cut".... Which would probably mean a "tailgators" reference hint is next. Please, please, please announce you are keeping Zephyrs as the name... Quote It is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian in Boston Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Personally, I'm of the mind that - when done right - unique identities for minor-league franchises are vastly preferable to simply aping the parent-club's name, logos, and uniforms. Off the top of my head, a "Top Ten" of MiLB identity-packages would include: Bradenton Marauders Burlington Bees Clearwater Threshers Daytona Tortugas (I also thought the Daytona Cubs identity - which immediately preceded the change to Tortugas - was outstanding.) Durham Bulls Hillsboro Hops (Easily my favorite current identity package in MiLB.) Idaho Falls Chukars Modesto Nuts Toledo Mud Hens Visalia Rawhide (I loved the Mudville Nine identity even more.) I'm also a fan of the identities sported by the Asheville Tourists, Cedar Rapids Kernels, Lakeland Flying Tigers, Reno Aces, and West Virginia Black Bears. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 I used to like the San Antonio Missions a lot, and I want to note that I got way more pushback than I deserved for saying that you shouldn't italicize a building. 1 Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichO Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 2 hours ago, the admiral said: I used to like the San Antonio Missions a lot, and I want to note that I got way more pushback than I deserved for saying that you shouldn't italicize a building. Tell that to the Italians 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittSmith_95 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Wanna know what identity I wish would come back? The old Fresno Grizzlies look. The Teal, Brown, Orange & Yellow was beautiful and looked incredible. Much better than what they use now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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