Eastport76 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 On 2021-11-23 at 9:42 AM, insert name said: Black Fridays for the Mets are here to stay. It was quickly pointed out that the replicas shown in the video and website are missing the neck piping. A slight redesign maybe? Seems weird to remove an element that's been on nearly every Mets alternative. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olmec Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 Not trying to derail but every time I see that swoosh on the front of an MLB jersey I can't help but shake my head. How one of the oldest American professional sports leagues allowed this utterly baffles me. At the very least they couldn't make it blue or orange? Nope, had to be white 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJWalker45 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 43 minutes ago, Olmec said: Not trying to derail but every time I see that swoosh on the front of an MLB jersey I can't help but shake my head. How one of the oldest American professional sports leagues allowed this utterly baffles me. At the very least they couldn't make it blue or orange? Nope, had to be white So they're like every other sports league in the world? Even with teams older than most baseball teams in the USA by at least a few decades? Ultimately, it's up to the teams to ask for them to change the swoosh to match their uniforms, and if they don't care enough then that's on them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManillaToad Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 12 minutes ago, MJWalker45 said: So they're like every other sports league in the world? Even with teams older than most baseball teams in the USA by at least a few decades? Ultimately, it's up to the teams to ask for them to change the swoosh to match their uniforms, and if they don't care enough then that's on them. The manufacturer logo on the back or on the side is completely different than it being on the front lol 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian E Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 honestly, the swoosh on the front doesn't really bother me. it speaks to the huge equity nike has as a global lifestyle brand, but the swoosh is basically as ubiquitous on clothing as buttons or a zipper. i lean traditionalist, so i know it should drive me crazy and all that, and i know this is simply my opinion and doesn't speak for anyone else, but it's much ado about nothing for me. i agree though that i'd rather it was rendered in blue or orange. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJWalker45 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 41 minutes ago, ManillaToad said: The manufacturer logo on the back or on the side is completely different than it being on the front lol It's annoying that people are still clutching the pearls about a baseball jersey having a logo on the front, or anywhere on a uniform at all, when it's something that has been in use for greater than 50 years now across multiple sports. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostOfNormMacdonald Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 1 hour ago, MJWalker45 said: It's annoying that people are still clutching the pearls about a baseball jersey having a logo on the front, or anywhere on a uniform at all, when it's something that has been in use for greater than 50 years now across multiple sports. Baseball being 50 years behind everyone else is traditional. Them getting the swoosh now is the most baseball thing ever 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManillaToad Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 1 hour ago, MJWalker45 said: It's annoying that people are still clutching the pearls about a baseball jersey having a logo on the front, or anywhere on a uniform at all, when it's something that has been in use for greater than 50 years now across multiple sports. It has nothing to do with "muh tradition muh sanctity" and has everything to do with it looking worse aesthetically. NFL jerseys would look worse with the checkmark on the front instead of the sleeves, NHL jerseys would looks worse with the adidas patch on the front instead of the back. Those soccer and basketball jerseys you linked look terrible btw 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJWalker45 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, ManillaToad said: It has nothing to do with "muh tradition muh sanctity" and has everything to do with it looking worse aesthetically. NFL jerseys would look worse with the checkmark on the front instead of the sleeves, NHL jerseys would looks worse with the adidas patch on the front instead of the back. Those soccer and basketball jerseys you linked look terrible btw Those logos are in their traditional location, except for football and hockey. Baseball had the logos on the sleeve since the 1980's and moved them to the front last year. Aesthetically, they don't look worse than they did, they just happen to be where people didn't want them to be, because "tradition". As far as looks, those basketball uniforms look good, except for the ad badge that doesn't match the team colors. For soccer, if a kit looks bad, just wait a year and they'll put out a new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaGlowin Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 For some reason the only time it bothered me was on the Dodgers city jersey. I guess because the jersey color was so dark the logo stood out more. Last updated 2/26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coco1997 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 Gonna be great when Max Scherzer secures the final out of the 2022 World Series while wearing the black alternate and then those jerseys are NEVER going away again. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopewellJones Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 I like the Mets using black. Always have. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManillaToad Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 1 hour ago, MJWalker45 said: Aesthetically, they don't look worse than they did, they just happen to be where people didn't want them to be, because "tradition" I told you what my opinion was and you're still telling me it's actually something different. So glad the aesthetics literally (literally) remained the exact same after the switch. Love my Ŕangers and my Ŕeds. What nike logo? It blends in so seamlessly, the aesthetics are arguably better! 1 hour ago, MJWalker45 said: Those logos are in their traditional location The NBA first put the manufacturer logo on the front of the jerseys in 2017 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJWalker45 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, ManillaToad said: I told you what my opinion was and you're still telling me it's actually something different. So glad the aesthetics literally (literally) remained the exact same after the switch. Love my Ŕangers and my Ŕeds. What nike logo? It blends in so seamlessly, the aesthetics are arguably better! The NBA first put the manufacturer logo on the front of the jerseys in 2017 Manufacturer logos, across all sports, are traditionally located on the front of the jersey. That's what I'm saying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostOfNormMacdonald Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 I wish MLB could have pulled an NFL and just put it on the sleeve. I don't hate the swoosh as much as others, but I think it does detract from the aesthetic a bit. Not to get too off topic, but why are the NFL and NHL seemingly the only leagues without the makers mark on the chest? Why couldn't the NBA get the logo on the back like hockey and MLB on the sleeve like the NFL? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damnyoutuesday Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 Does this mean no uniform news 1 Sorry, I'm on an iPad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJWalker45 Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 13 hours ago, GhostOfNormMacdonald said: I wish MLB could have pulled an NFL and just put it on the sleeve. I don't hate the swoosh as much as others, but I think it does detract from the aesthetic a bit. Not to get too off topic, but why are the NFL and NHL seemingly the only leagues without the makers mark on the chest? Why couldn't the NBA get the logo on the back like hockey and MLB on the sleeve like the NFL? The NFL figures if the logos are on the sleeves they'll always be visible on camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 8 hours ago, MNtwins3 said: Does this mean no uniform news If any team wants to get new stuff available for sale before the holidays, they'll have to use either mannequins or stand-ins as models. Or just show the new gear laying on a table or something. 3 "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Boy Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 3 hours ago, MJWalker45 said: The NFL figures if the logos are on the sleeves they'll always be visible on camera. Logo visibility is a Nike concern, not the NFL's. The logo is on the sleeves, because that is the placement that Nike/NFL negotiated and Nike pays accordingly. I believe that the front of the jersey is the prime real estate, because Nike paid a higher price to MLB to put their mark there vs. on the sleeve. College football also has their mark on the front of the jerseys. If the sleeve placement were preferable, I am sure Nike would have it there, as they are in a more favorable negotiating position with these colleges than with the NFL. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJWalker45 Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, Hat Boy said: Logo visibility is a Nike concern, not the NFL's. The logo is on the sleeves, because that is the placement that Nike/NFL negotiated and Nike pays accordingly. I believe that the front of the jersey is the prime real estate, because Nike paid a higher price to MLB to put their mark there vs. on the sleeve. College football also has their mark on the front of the jerseys. If the sleeve placement were preferable, I am sure Nike would have it there, as they are in a more favorable negotiating position with these colleges than with the NFL. The colleges don't decide where the logo goes though, the NCAA does. Same as how FIFA decides where logos go on jerseys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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