DEAD! Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 35 minutes ago, the admiral said: Well, nothing in the New South is really built to last, so I'm not totally surprised, but it's still obnoxious. I can understand those cheapo '70s domes not standing the test of time, but I would think that by the late '90s, we would have figured out stadium construction and maintenance a little better. I mean, this place ain't Madison Square Garden; most of the year it just sits there not doing anything. How much could you have let it go to crap unless you were trying to? ...and on top of that the stadium is surrounded by a Gila River Arena parking lot that is also not doing anything. If a stadium was such a great investment, all the owners would have paid for it themselves. A city is better off having a souless mall at the same location. I saw, I came, I left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDAWG Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Cujo said: Stadiums that are appx the same age as Nissan Stadium: Carolina Cincinnati Cleveland Detroit Denver Houston New England Philadelphia Pittsburgh Seattle Tampa Bay Washington Aren't a few of them though getting upgrades? I recall reading on here about Gilette getting a few upgrades, same with Seattle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walk-Off Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 10 hours ago, the admiral said: I can understand those cheapo '70s domes not standing the test of time, but I would think that by the late '90s, we would have figured out stadium construction and maintenance a little better. I mean, this place ain't Madison Square Garden; most of the year it just sits there not doing anything. How much could you have let it go to crap unless you were trying to? Especially after reading the originally linked article, I think that much of the impetus for a new Nashville NFL stadium, especially one with a roof, is coming from elements independent of the Tennessee Titans -- who, as late as last month, seemed to be content just to spend 300 million of their own dollars, and then try to extract at least 300 million more dollars from the Nashville / Davidson County metropolitan government, to make various fixes and upgrades to Nissan Stadium. Specifically, I suspect that such entities as the Nashville Sports Council (a group that recruits annual and one-off sports events to Nashville and nearby areas), the Nashville Convention & Visitors Corporation, and the Country Music Association (whose annual activities include a springtime country music festival at Nissan Stadium) want such a stadium even more than Amy Adams Strunk and her lieutenants across the Titans organization do, if only to increase (if not maximize) Nashville's potential as an event destination. This all reminds me of certain things that I think that I have read about the lead-up to the 2002-03 renovation of Soldier Field. Apparently, certain figures within Chicago's political and/or business establishments wanted Soldier Field to be rebuilt as or replaced with a stadium with both a retractable roof and a much larger seating capacity, so that the Chicago area could get in the running for Super Bowls, NCAA Final Fours, and other events that the region could host only with an indoor venue with lots of seats. However, also presumably, the McCaskey family insisted that Soldier Field be renovated in a way that maintained both a full-time outdoor configuration and a seating capacity that was and is intimately small by NFL standards, and the McCaskeys' modest wishes for Soldier Field's future prevailed ultimately. 9 hours ago, DEAD! said: ...and on top of that the stadium is surrounded by a Gila River Arena parking lot that is also not doing anything. If a stadium was such a great investment, all the owners would have paid for it themselves. A city is better off having a souless mall at the same location. While Nissan Stadium is surrounded by what are indeed probably enough parking spaces for a shopping mall, I am not quite sure if an ordinarily configured mall would fit within the footprint of the stadium itself. When I imagine a mall taking Nissan Stadium's place, all that comes to mind is something that would need to have many more floors than a typical mall in a suburban area and might have room for only one anchor tenant (be it a traditional department store, a cinema multiplex, or a Dave & Buster's or something similar to that) at the most. Besides, if that area were being developed today as something other than a sports venue, a much more likely result would be a fashionably mixed-use urban development with offices, apartments, retail stores, and restaurants bunched closely together and at least most of the parking being concentrated in multi-level structures and/or underground garages. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 5 hours ago, Walk-Off said: This all reminds me of certain things that I think that I have read about the lead-up to the 2002-03 renovation of Soldier Field. Apparently, certain figures within Chicago's political and/or business establishments wanted Soldier Field to be rebuilt as or replaced with a stadium with both a retractable roof and a much larger seating capacity, so that the Chicago area could get in the running for Super Bowls, NCAA Final Fours, and other events that the region could host only with an indoor venue with lots of seats. However, also presumably, the McCaskey family insisted that Soldier Field be renovated in a way that maintained both a full-time outdoor configuration and a seating capacity that was and is intimately small by NFL standards, and the McCaskeys' modest wishes for Soldier Field's future prevailed ultimately. Reinsdorf didn't want a venue larger than the United Center, and he has more clout than the bumbling McCaskeys do. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Comet Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 (edited) Seeing all this stuff about how these stadiums from the 90s needing major upgrades/needing to be replaced entirely makes me grateful that we somehow managed to get our stadiums right the first time. Sure, the Royals want a downtown stadium, but polling indicated that it was about as popular as a blue rare steak is to members of PETA. Edited February 18, 2022 by Red Comet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont care Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 16 hours ago, the admiral said: Well, nothing in the New South is really built to last, so I'm not totally surprised, but it's still obnoxious. I can understand those cheapo '70s domes not standing the test of time, but I would think that by the late '90s, we would have figured out stadium construction and maintenance a little better. I mean, this place ain't Madison Square Garden; most of the year it just sits there not doing anything. How much could you have let it go to crap unless you were trying to? Well it’s also exposed to the elements, it’s not like Madison square garden where 90% of it doesn’t have to deal with the effects of rain, cold, snow, corrosion, wind ect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sec19Row53 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 25 minutes ago, dont care said: Well it’s also exposed to the elements, it’s not like Madison square garden where 90% of it doesn’t have to deal with the effects of rain, cold, snow, corrosion, wind etc. Understood, but it reads as though they didn't use steel reinforcement in the structure, i.e., it was build strictly of concrete (or as strictly of concrete as is possible). It's where I sit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Comet Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 I didn’t know Mahomes had the balls to do this but way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See Red Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 26 minutes ago, Red Comet said: I didn’t know Mahomes had the balls to do this but way to go. This guy walked back his report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Comet Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, See Red said: This guy walked back his report. Thats……unfortunate. Time to go to penitentiaries to scout some new players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBGKon Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Same guy said this on Twitter earlier today as well. The validity of his Mahomes report gives me a feeling that he's wrong on this news too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorWhom Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 If it's about Brady having "Beef" with someone, then there's a 100% chance it is BS. I've lost track of how many times they've tried to manufacture some drama with Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walk-Off Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 11 hours ago, the admiral said: Reinsdorf didn't want a venue larger than the United Center, and he has more clout than the bumbling McCaskeys do. If that is true, then Jerry Reinsdorf was to Chicago what Charles and James Dolan would prove to be to New York City a few years later. Both the New York Jets and a committee that was lobbying to bring the 2012 Summer Olympic Games to NYC waged a campaign for the building of a retractable-roof stadium on Manhattan's West Side. This stadium would have become the Jets' new home and would have also served as the main Olympic Stadium for the 2012 games. However, the Dolans resented the prospect of the Big Apple having an indoor sports destination that was far larger than the family's Madison Square Garden, so they maneuvered successfully to quash that project, the Jets settled for partnering with the Giants on a second outdoor football stadium in the New Jersey Meadowlands, the NYC 2012 Olympic bid committee rushed to devise a replacement plan of an outdoor Olympic Stadium in Flushing that would be turned into the Mets' next home ballpark after the games (just as Atlanta had made a ballpark for the Braves out of the 1996 Summer Olympics' flagship stadium), and, in the end, London beat out NYC and three other finalists for the Games of the XXX (30th) Olympiad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infrared41 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 This Rick Ohrnberger cat might want to consider finding some more reliable sources. Then again, are we sure he's not a parody account like Ballsack Sports and he's just making up to troll people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Comet Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, infrared41 said: This Rick Ohrnberger cat might want to consider finding some more reliable sources. Then again, are we sure he's not a parody account like Ballsack Sports and he's just making up to troll people? Dude is real apparently. Had a career in the NFL and is now a sports talk show host in San Diego. Howard Costello was right about the jockocracy. Lesson learned to disregard anything this guy says if he got tricked into thinking someone impersonated a longtime source giving him bad info. Edited February 19, 2022 by Red Comet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The_Admiral Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Seems like about the tidiest resolution possible to this. NFL avoids court, Flores avoids losing, Steelers add more coaching talent. 1 ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sec19Row53 Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 1 hour ago, the admiral said: Seems like about the tidiest resolution possible to this. NFL avoids court, Flores avoids losing, Steelers add more coaching talent. But this doesn't mean his lawsuit goes away. It should and will continue. It's where I sit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 Yeah, I'm pretty sure it won't, though. If it were some dumb team, maybe, but the Steelers of all teams makes it feel like that's over. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynasty Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 Good guy Steelers trying to be the good guys, even though everyone still hates them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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