MLB 2023 Uniform/Logo Changes

[ptay]

Nationals script is still superior to the isolated curly W on the chest. 

There might be some nostalgia already for the W due to its association with a much more successful period in club history.

[ltjets21]

I like the Washington Away script but I preferred this set.

 

[AstroCree]

7 hours ago, WestCoastBias said:

 

They need to go back to wearing these. 

 

Align the numbers with the logo but these were never bad. I think they got a lot of undeserved hate. 

 

On 8/1/2022 at 8:08 PM, ltjets21 said:

The Nationals really need to fix their script. The angle of it currently is absurd, look how much better the All star version is. 

There's a lot they gotta fix. They need to go back to the red Curly W caps at home. The new ones are not doing it for me. 

[FiddySicks]

19 hours ago, ltjets21 said:

I like the Washington Away script but I preferred this set.

 

This is easily the best the Nats have ever looked and is one of my personal favorite uniforms of all time. Im an absolute sucker for gold. That set not only should’ve stuck around, they should’ve used these two hats along with it, DC and all. If the Twins can use a TC hat, then the Nats should be able to use a DC cap. Leave the curly W to Walgreens. 
 

[BBTV]

The road jerseys were great.  I didn't love the red and gold on the home, but it's miles better than the curly-w homes.  The DC caps could have become classics had they committed to them.  It's nothing short of cowardice that they didn't.

[Moseph]

That DC logo is one of my favorites, it was the perfect alternate!

[gosioux76]

11 hours ago, BBTV said:

The road jerseys were great.  I didn't love the red and gold on the home, but it's miles better than the curly-w homes.  The DC caps could have become classics had they committed to them.  It's nothing short of cowardice that they didn't.

 

I also love those road uniforms. The typeface they used on those initial uniforms was brilliant. It's one of the rare cases where beveling works. To me, it. evoked imagery of Washington architecture and monuments. It was fitting for the city. 

 

That said, while I can appreciate how well the DC hat matched the rest of the look, I wasn't nearly as enamored with it. To me, it felt kind of lifeless and insignificant compared with the rest of the uniform. The wordmarks on the jersey use the same type, but slightly elongated, which gives it a more commanding presence on the jersey. I'd be curious to see whether giving the DC a similar treatment on the hat would change my mind about it.

 

Personally, I favor the the curly W, but only because I'm a sucker for nostalgia and always liked that hat. It was the wrong mark to pair with  those early uniforms. 

 

It's clear they'd rather build their brand around the W, which is fine. But I'd prefer they simplify things and go full retro by simplifying the uniforms in a way that evokes the earlier era. (Yes, I know the Senators weren't a good team, but I don't care about that.) 

 

 

 

[JayMac]

Completely unpopular opinion, I'm sure - I never liked the DC cap or the original Nationals uniforms. I like the curly W and the wordmarks they use now.

[MJD7]

I’m surprised to see the love for the Nats’ early days bevel look. To me those wordmarks reek of the early 2000’s, barely readable because of how condensed they are, especially with the gold.

 

I used to prefer the “DC” logo, but now I think I actually prefer the curly W. It feels more distinct compared to the rest of MLB, and it has more history. I could go either way on the cap logo, though.

 

I was happy when they replaced the curly W home jersey with their former Spring Training jersey, but now I already kind of miss the old design. Like the curly W itself, it felt more distinctly “Nationals” among the MLB landscape. 

[BBTV]

The Nationals script could be improved, but it's miles better than just slapping the W on the left breast and a number on the right belly.  It also didn't help that they had what felt like 50 alternate looks, including the crappy flag jerseys.

 

I wouldn't say I loved the original look.  While I "get" the inspiration for the bevels, they do impact readability and do date the look.  But overall, I think Radom did a nice job with what he had to work with.  He was basically said "we don't want the Nationals to look like the old Nationals or Senators.  We want them to have a contemporary look.  Oh, but one thing - we want the hat to look like the old Senators.  Got it?"

 

Navy/gold/red on gray is a solid combo.  Red/gold/navy on white is a little too... idk, I just don't love it.  Maybe going more navy-heavy at home would have been better, but then they wouldn't have had a need for a red cap, and I'm sure they wanted to sell home and road caps.

[FiddySicks]

This might be an unpopular opinion, but I think the curly W sucks and is only popular because of the nostalgia of the Senators. And that doesn’t even include the Walgreens association. 

[ManillaToad]

Who has nostalgia for the Senators? They had been gone for 35 years by the time the Nats came around and hadn't been relevant since the 1930s

[CaliforniaGlowin]

I'll call this right now: 2023 Marlins, no change

[selgy]

Nothing can be done now but I would have preferred if when they moved they went with Washington Grays. 

I know the name would have sounded too much like Rays, A's, and possibly Braves when someone heard the name quickly.

 

But a modern version of a nice modern version like the Uni of Pitt used would look nice in todays game. The H on the hat is for Homestead. But it would be a W for Washington of DC

[BBTV]

I too liked the various Grays proposals, but I'm really against using any kind of W, and would really like the DC teams to use DC logos.  There's so much potential for cool interlocking DC logos - it's a shame they're not used more often.  That, and nobody I know ever says "Washington" unless they're buying an Amtrak ticket or referring to the government.  It's just DC.

[MilSox]

6 hours ago, BBTV said:

I too liked the various Grays proposals, but I'm really against using any kind of W, and would really like the DC teams to use DC logos.  There's so much potential for cool interlocking DC logos - it's a shame they're not used more often.  That, and nobody I know ever says "Washington" unless they're buying an Amtrak ticket or referring to the government.  It's just DC.

 

To your point... baseball is the sport that has always emphasized the city's name over the nickname. I also like the point of the Twins using TC. Unpopular opinion maybe, but the Rangers should be using a DFW hat. Still call yourselves the Texas Rangers since that fits the theme of your identity, but you don't represent all of Texas. 

 

Heck, even the California Angels used a A. Which ostensibly referred to their nickname, but just as easily stood for Anaheim. Remember, they originally used a CA.

[WSU151]

47 minutes ago, NicDB said:

 

To your point... baseball is the sport that has always emphasized the city's name over the nickname. I also like the point of the Twins using TC. Unpopular opinion maybe, but the Rangers should be using a DFW hat. Still call yourselves the Texas Rangers since that fits the theme of your identity, but you don't represent all of Texas. 

 

Baseball is usually city-centric, but this is like saying the Wisconsin Badgers should wear a M on their helmets because they’re only the University of Wisconsin-Madison and don’t represent the other colleges in the state. 

 

I don’t see a problem with the Texas Rangers wearing a T. 

[FiddySicks]

On 8/6/2022 at 2:18 PM, ManillaToad said:

Who has nostalgia for the Senators? They had been gone for 35 years by the time the Nats came around and hadn't been relevant since the 1930s

Washington DC did. Just look at all of the early Washington MLB (pre announcing the name Nationals) press conferences. Basically everyone was wearing the retro curly W hats. I’d even say it’s sort of what led them to even using the curly W for the Nationals, it seems. The original uniform set had a gold beveled W that went with it that ended up being ditched late in the design process and was never used. 
 

Can’t find a pic, but here’s an article

 

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I’ve seen the gold-beveled W that was designed to match the original unis, and it’s a thing of beauty. A crying shame the team didn’t use it. Plus, the original Senators treatment of the curly W was superior to the slightly modified current version. And here’s where I’ll agree with you completely: I know for a fact that the Nats were forced to drop Radom’s custom-designed new W for a rehash of the Senators W by Bud Selig personally, and this was a result of the man’s lifelong pattern of historical denial. He couldn’t wish away Atlanta to rename his own franchise the Braves, but he could force the 2005 Nats to pretend to be the 1972 Senators.

It’s one of the reasons why I’ve always disliked the curly W for the Nationals. It’s completely forced, and imo is WAY inferior to what they were going to originally use. 

[Burmy]

Would this be the gold beveled W hat you're referring to?

 

 

If so, that is a BEAUTY.  I immediately think of the OG Senators' glory days, of the Big Train being on the mound what the Bambino was at the plate...

[FiddySicks]

Yes I believe that’s the one. That’s also the only picture I’ve ever seen of it. Never seen the red W hat, if there ever was one.