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55 minutes ago, Bruhammydude said:

 

So, does @TruColor really know what he's talking about?

TruColor is as legit as you can get.  He's been around about as long as this board's been here, even before the board changed platforms 2 decades or so ago...first as Pantone eons ago and the ColorWerx if memory serves correctly.   Anyone remember Nitroseed's awesome Cardinals concept before the actual change occurred?

Anyway, he doesn't blow smoke or spread baseless rumors.  So if TruColor says what he's heard, I believe it came from as legitmate a source as one can feel comfortable with.  I've onky seen the guy work hard to be accurate in the past.  Anyway, just my $.02.

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57 minutes ago, Bruhammydude said:

Everything that @TruColor has mentioned that he has "seen" thus far.

 

He supposedly got this info from a Reddit User. Can we trust this anonymous Redditor?

"One of the reasons I'm trusting this Reddit user is the level of detail he's providing. And, he's not really a uniform aficionado per se. He also described the helmet down to the letter from the other sources I've seen and heard about. He is the one who gave me the Pantone values - he read them right off of the press release he apparently has in his possession. "

 

The logo might have minor tweaks, and the wordmark likely will change.

"'Is the Cardinals wordmark changing besides colors?'

From what I hear - yes."

 

The colors will most likely be maroon/scarlet, orange, and gray.

"colors are close." (In response to a concept with said colors.)

"They’re not adding Copper"

"You’d never guess what the Orange will be called…I had to look it up in the dictionary to figure out what it is"

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(This was one of the only image posts he made, albeit just a concept. However, TruColor has now gone on record multiple times to share that the colors will be similar to those shown above.) 

 

The helmets will be white, and stylized like the alternate black helmets we saw last year.

"I'm now hearing that the new white helmets will have the undertone-metallic flake (or whatever that's called), like the Black alt helmets."

"The White helmets ARE changing, and the Gray face masks are also going away. 100%."

"Yeah, that could be. I was joking however. One hint I'll give is that these won't be standard White shells."

"All I will say about the helmet (yes, I have a picture that I have promised NOT to share), is that when you see it, you'll think "of course...it all makes sense now"."

(Also, he has said that the facemask will not be orange nor red. Maybe black?)

"The Cardinals changes ARE happening...I have in fact, seen the new helmets"

 

The uniforms will very much be within Nike's grasp, with the way the love to go flashy.

"All of the colors will have a "regional" descriptive name. Even the White."

"The new Cardinals unis are going to be way more "outside the box" than the Commanders..." (bold claim here)

"Black is still present...just not very much of it apparently."

"4 new jerseys and 3 new sets of pants from what I've heard."

"No Red flakes and no Red facemask. The pants on the other hand...ye Gods..."

 

At the same time, if TruColor is wrong, it might not be entirely be him deceiving us.

"Keep in mind that I'm only saying this based on what has been described to me. I have not actually seen the uniforms. I have seen the helmets (with decals), but sans facemasks. The facemasks have been described to me by two different sources which described them exactly the same."

"So get this - what's interesting here is that there are no mention of uniforms. Why that is interesting, is that I got a text earlier today from my source who is ADAMANT that the uniforms are still being revealed on Monday, the 17th.I don't know what to believe anymore." (This reveal never happened. Has TruColor been lead on?)

 

So, does @TruColor really know what he's talking about? Maybe. I have my reasons to believe that this is not another @Teal situation, but at the same time, none of us can be certain he has the credibility for all these pieces of evidence. I don't expect an expert in the field like this to be completely oblivious to a Reddit faker. However, if all this evidence doesn't apply, it will be damaging to his credentials. Personally, I trust what he is saying, as he has been on this board longer than I've even been alive, and also runs his own dedicated sports colors/logo website. I wanted to mostly collect all the hints and clues that have been dropped to start forming a better idea on what is expected for the 4/20 reveal. 

 

For now, we wait.

 

 

I agree that I am putting a lot of faith into what has been told to me. However, this Reddit user and I have had a lot of conversations about these in detail, and some of the info he has provided does sound very much legit. It all feels like something Nike would do, and he has also given me some information on some other things that have also turned out to be true.

 

It’s either all legit, or a giant smokescreen. I’m banking on the former, but am also not really concerned about my “legacy” or some other kind of crap. I don’t really care. As I’ve said, I’m just anxious to see all of this as much (or more) as the rest of you. I’ve been a fan of this team for 54 years now.

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I just read the @TruColor recap and feel as if I have taken crazy pills on multiple levels.

 

Not that I'm calling Donovan crazy, mind you. It's just... Oh, Cardinals, what is you doing.

 

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**** THIS POST IS NOT A LEAK NOR A PREDICTION ****

One thing that's interesting to me about all this, assuming that the information TruColor has received is correct, is that the new color scheme will be more like the St. Louis Cardinals color scheme of the 1960s (top colors vs. the current color scheme on bottom) with the maroon color and yellow that's a bit darker.

 

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But I would also be willing to bet that they will make exactly zero reference to this fact during the unveiling.

 

**** THIS POST IS NOT A LEAK NOR A PREDICTION ****

 

We've reached within two days of reveal where this board goes from fun to exhausting, so I figured I'd place this disclaimer for everyone.

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Final predictions before tomorrow, based off of nothing other than @TruColor’s hints & my own guesses:

 

  • I don’t think the red shade will be ask dark as Washington’s maroon, but I could see it being a bit darker than their current red. I think they’ll pair it with a “desert” gray, a bigger presence of athletic gold, and maybe the slightest bit of orange, similar to the state flag. At that point I’d like to see them just drop gold entirely and replace it with orange, for a more unique color scheme, but it doesn’t seem like they’ll go that route.
  • I’d prefer they go with “desert gray” specks on the helmet, but maybe they’ll be gold? Something to do with sunshine? I think we’ll see the 3D logo, but in desert cardinal colors. I have no idea what color the facemask will be, but my guess is it’ll be white, since every other color seems to be off the table. I think an orange or a red facemask would’ve been nice.
  • I can see the jersey having the Arizona flag stemming from below the collar, much like @Jeffery’s concept, but fitting to the new Vapor Fusion template. I have a feeling his concept might end up looking better than the final product, though.
  • If there are indeed 4 jerseys, I have no idea what they could all be… Cardinal & white are a given (I hope), but beyond that… maybe desert gray and gold, with one of the two being the Color Rush? Who knows. 

Even though I likely won’t be able to see it until Friday morning because I’m 6 hours ahead of the East Coast currently, I’m still quite excited for this reveal. 

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Inspirations:

 

  • eggshell helmet, tied into a new egg vendor at the stadium; ownership hoping if players crack their heads open it will drive omelet sales up 
  • red speckled road whites, inspired by blood spatter formations, potential promotional tie in with Dexter reboot?
  • novel light shade of orange, representing iodine wash put on Carson Palmer’s knee before one of his many surgeries 
  • a bold gradient blend of gold and maroon, called Friendly Fire, a touching tribute to Pat Tillman
  • a league first - gray turf, an homage to the many generations of fans who have died, never having seen the team win a Super Bowl 
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9 hours ago, monkeypower said:

 

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23 minutes ago, MJD7 said:

Final predictions before tomorrow, based off of nothing other than @TruColor’s hints & my own guesses:

 

  • I don’t think the red shade will be ask dark as Washington’s maroon, but I could see it being a bit darker than their current red. I think they’ll pair it with a “desert” gray, a bigger presence of athletic gold, and maybe the slightest bit of orange, similar to the state flag. At that point I’d like to see them just drop gold entirely and replace it with orange, for a more unique color scheme, but it doesn’t seem like they’ll go that route.
  • I’d prefer they go with “desert gray” specks on the helmet, but maybe they’ll be gold? Something to do with sunshine? I think we’ll see the 3D logo, but in desert cardinal colors. I have no idea what color the facemask will be, but my guess is it’ll be white, since every other color seems to be off the table. I think an orange or a red facemask would’ve been nice.
  • I can see the jersey having the Arizona flag stemming from below the collar, much like @Jeffery’s concept, but fitting to the new Vapor Fusion template. I have a feeling his concept might end up looking better than the final product, though.
  • If there are indeed 4 jerseys, I have no idea what they could all be… Cardinal & white are a given (I hope), but beyond that… maybe desert gray and gold, with one of the two being the Color Rush? Who knows. 

Even though I likely won’t be able to see it until Friday morning because I’m 6 hours ahead of the East Coast currently, I’m still quite excited for this reveal. 

Oh man, you opened a new fear with the incoming template.

 

Its gonna be a gradient Arizona sunrise starting at the point of the V

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24 hours until the big reveal*, definitely done better than the other teams to avoid any early reveals.

 

*Unless a retail store or employee or player actively leaks them on accident.

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The Jags didn't officially leak until the morning of the reveal from the airport graphic. A few locals and friends of friends had the Nike concept sheets that were sent to the team a few months before though. I had the concepts two and a half months before the unveiling. The black jerseys were originally supposed to have teal numbers and they played around with 4 different fonts and different stripes on cuffs and the pants. We didn't know for sure that those concepts would be what they went with though.

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1 hour ago, nuordr said:

@TruColor has your contact told you anything about the Detroit Lions new helmet or the new Carolina Panthers jerseys?

Don’t know anything re: the Lions, and I just got an updated Panthers sheet that doesn’t show any changes other than a new set of Blue pants.

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3 minutes ago, TruColor said:

Don’t know anything re: the Lions, and I just got an updated Panthers sheet that doesn’t show any changes other than a new set of Blue pants.

 

What do they know about the current whereabouts of Jimmy Hoffa? Any idea whether there was a second gunman on the grassy knoll? 

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9 hours ago, MDGP said:

**** THIS POST IS NOT A LEAK NOR A PREDICTION ****

One thing that's interesting to me about all this, assuming that the information TruColor has received is correct, is that the new color scheme will be more like the St. Louis Cardinals color scheme of the 1960s (top colors vs. the current color scheme on bottom) with the maroon color and yellow that's a bit darker.

 

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Does anyone actually have high hopes for this unveiling? There has been an absurd amount of speculation and anticipation, yet have we heard one thing that suggests this will be a nice clean rebrand and not an overly designed Commanders/Bucs/Titans kind of uniform set? I still don't understand why they seem to be ditching their cardinal red.

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