ESTONES6 Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 How would Boise State NOT make sense? Just because they never played in a legitimate conference? I'm sure if the Pac-12 could lure Texas over, they would be willing to make some adjustments to their TV schedules or do whatever they need to do with negotiating with ESPN or whoever runs the TV contract, to bring Texas in. Quote SAINT IGNATIUS WILDCATS | CLEVELAND BROWNS | CLEVELAND CAVALIERS | CLEVELAND INDIANS | THE OHIO STATE BUCKEYES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashcarson15 Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 How would Boise State NOT make sense? Just because they never played in a legitimate conference? I'm sure if the Pac-12 could lure Texas over, they would be willing to make some adjustments to their TV schedules or do whatever they need to do to bring Texas in.The Pac-12's already told Texas that they'd have to drop the Longhorn Network in order to be admitted to the conference, something the Longhorns aren't willing to do.Boise State isn't a top academic institution, and doesn't bring in as much money for the league as, say, one of the Kansas schools even would. They play in a 30,000-seat stadium, in a small media market, and just about every sport other than football would be finishing in the bottom 1/4 of the conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 How would Boise State NOT make sense? Just because they never played in a legitimate conference? I'm sure if the Pac-12 could lure Texas over, they would be willing to make some adjustments to their TV schedules or do whatever they need to do with negotiating with ESPN or whoever runs the TV contract, to bring Texas in.The Stanford caliber schools will never consort with a jumped-up community college. They've said as much. Quote On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 How would Boise State NOT make sense? Just because they never played in a legitimate conference? I'm sure if the Pac-12 could lure Texas over, they would be willing to make some adjustments to their TV schedules or do whatever they need to do with negotiating with ESPN or whoever runs the TV contract, to bring Texas in.The Stanford caliber schools will never consort with a jumped-up community college. They've said as much.To add, and I may be naive here, Boise doesn't have any other worthwhile athletics (like basketball, at the least). The Pac-12 is collectively competitive in every sport. Quote 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted September 10, 2011 Author Share Posted September 10, 2011 How would Boise State NOT make sense? Just because they never played in a legitimate conference? I'm sure if the Pac-12 could lure Texas over, they would be willing to make some adjustments to their TV schedules or do whatever they need to do with negotiating with ESPN or whoever runs the TV contract, to bring Texas in.The Stanford caliber schools will never consort with a jumped-up community college. They've said as much.BINGO!Plus Boise State has an athletic budget of about $25M. That is $14M less than even Wazzu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Larry Scott said he'd prefer the Big XII doesn't dissolve or the PAC remain at 12. He's playing PR. He said it was his preference, not what would happen. He was at a PAC 12 team vs a Big XII. How would it look if he said yeah we're looking to poach a few of their teams. He used non-committal wording, one way or the other. Quote https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninersdd Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 If the Treasure Valley can grow some more, and BSU can remain a great team, then maybe the end of this decade is when they jump to a power conference. Quote BEAR DOWN ARIZONA!2013/14 Tanks Picks Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 If the Treasure Valley can grow some more, and BSU can remain a great team, then maybe the end of this decade is when they jump to a power conference.THE SCHOOL IS A GLORIFIED COMMUNITY COLLEGE.That's the problem, and no amount of population growth or football skill can correct that. Quote On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lights Out Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 I think we can all agree that academically, Boise State isn't the greatest school in the world. But with the stadium expansion on the way, a growing fanbase, the fact that Idaho is one of the top 5 fastest-growing states in the US and the fact that the Boise metro area is one of the top 10 fastest-growing metro areas in the country, who's to say the Big 12 won't decide to look past the academics for now and reach out to BSU if the Oklahoma schools, Texas, and Texas Tech leave? If it works, there's a lot of profit potential, and it could save the Big 12. As it is, the Big 12 is worse academically overall than the PAC-12 - only five AAU schools to the PAC's eight. Granted, unless the Big 12 gets really desperate, an AQ conference invite is a pipe dream at best. Quote POTD: 2/4/12 3/4/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 I will admit I could see a terribly rumpified Big 12 tossing a desperation invite Boise State's way, but I suspect it would be more likely for the "MURDERER'S ROW" Conference to join the Mountain West and try to bring the Big 12's AQ as a dowry. Quote On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 If the Big 12 admits Boise State it's a sign they're going down the same path as the WAC and C-USA, in which all the real power schools have moved on and they're hanging in by bringing in the in between mid major and major schools. C-USA used to have likes of Cincinnati and Louisville. Now Memphis is their premier school and not much else. And the WAC went even worse. Quote https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 If the Treasure Valley can grow some more, and BSU can remain a great team, then maybe the end of this decade is when they jump to a power conference.THE SCHOOL IS A GLORIFIED COMMUNITY COLLEGE.That's the problem, and no amount of population growth or football skill can correct that."You don't have enough graduate programs to play grey-market-pro sports against us" Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicageaux Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 I think we can all agree that academically, Boise State isn't the greatest school in the world. But with the stadium expansion on the way, a growing fanbase, the fact that Idaho is one of the top 5 fastest-growing states in the US and the fact that the Boise metro area is one of the top 10 fastest-growing metro areas in the country, who's to say the Big 12 won't decide to look past the academics for now and reach out to BSU if the Oklahoma schools, Texas, and Texas Tech leave? If it works, there's a lot of profit potential, and it could save the Big 12. As it is, the Big 12 is worse academically overall than the PAC-12 - only five AAU schools to the PAC's eight. Granted, unless the Big 12 gets really desperate, an AQ conference invite is a pipe dream at best.And who's to say Boise State would accept an invitation to a 5 team conference with Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, Baylor, and Missouri. If Texas, TT, Oklahoma and Ok State leave the conference, there won't be any Big XII left to save. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted September 11, 2011 Author Share Posted September 11, 2011 I think we can all agree that academically, Boise State isn't the greatest school in the world. But with the stadium expansion on the way, a growing fanbase, the fact that Idaho is one of the top 5 fastest-growing states in the US and the fact that the Boise metro area is one of the top 10 fastest-growing metro areas in the country, who's to say the Big 12 won't decide to look past the academics for now and reach out to BSU if the Oklahoma schools, Texas, and Texas Tech leave? If it works, there's a lot of profit potential, and it could save the Big 12. As it is, the Big 12 is worse academically overall than the PAC-12 - only five AAU schools to the PAC's eight. Granted, unless the Big 12 gets really desperate, an AQ conference invite is a pipe dream at best.And who's to say Boise State would accept an invitation to a 5 team conference with Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, Baylor, and Missouri. If Texas, TT, Oklahoma and Ok State leave the conference, there won't be any Big XII left to save.Five schools do not equal the NCAA's definition of a conference, thus no automatic bids to NCAA sponsored tournaments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltjets21 Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 If the Big 12 dissolves will the Mountain West get an AQ bid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lights Out Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 I think we can all agree that academically, Boise State isn't the greatest school in the world. But with the stadium expansion on the way, a growing fanbase, the fact that Idaho is one of the top 5 fastest-growing states in the US and the fact that the Boise metro area is one of the top 10 fastest-growing metro areas in the country, who's to say the Big 12 won't decide to look past the academics for now and reach out to BSU if the Oklahoma schools, Texas, and Texas Tech leave? If it works, there's a lot of profit potential, and it could save the Big 12. As it is, the Big 12 is worse academically overall than the PAC-12 - only five AAU schools to the PAC's eight. Granted, unless the Big 12 gets really desperate, an AQ conference invite is a pipe dream at best.And who's to say Boise State would accept an invitation to a 5 team conference with Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, Baylor, and Missouri. If Texas, TT, Oklahoma and Ok State leave the conference, there won't be any Big XII left to save.An AQ bid is an AQ bid. Quote POTD: 2/4/12 3/4/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 I think we can all agree that academically, Boise State isn't the greatest school in the world. But with the stadium expansion on the way, a growing fanbase, the fact that Idaho is one of the top 5 fastest-growing states in the US and the fact that the Boise metro area is one of the top 10 fastest-growing metro areas in the country, who's to say the Big 12 won't decide to look past the academics for now and reach out to BSU if the Oklahoma schools, Texas, and Texas Tech leave? If it works, there's a lot of profit potential, and it could save the Big 12. As it is, the Big 12 is worse academically overall than the PAC-12 - only five AAU schools to the PAC's eight. Granted, unless the Big 12 gets really desperate, an AQ conference invite is a pipe dream at best.And who's to say Boise State would accept an invitation to a 5 team conference with Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, Baylor, and Missouri. If Texas, TT, Oklahoma and Ok State leave the conference, there won't be any Big XII left to save.An AQ bid is an AQ bid.Read up a couple. The NCAA would probably not accept a 6 team conference or at least allow them to maintain an AQ bid. Quote https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornettored Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 How would Boise State NOT make sense? Just because they never played in a legitimate conference? I'm sure if the Pac-12 could lure Texas over, they would be willing to make some adjustments to their TV schedules or do whatever they need to do with negotiating with ESPN or whoever runs the TV contract, to bring Texas in.The Stanford caliber schools will never consort with a jumped-up community college. They've said as much.To add, and I may be naive here, Boise doesn't have any other worthwhile athletics (like basketball, at the least). The Pac-12 is collectively competitive in every sport.Yes, like for example wrestling and, its defending champion, Boise State. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 In effing wrestling. This very topic has been beaten to death on this forum and in this thread before. The PAC-12 has not problem admiting Boise as an associate member for wrestling but they do not want and are publicly against a school with the academic stature of Boise State joining as a full member. Quote Athletic Director: KTU Blue Grassers Football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Why don't they just admit them as an athletic member and not an academic member, then? This is not, nor was it ever, about academics. It's about grey-market pro football. Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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