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I think the Maloofs just like owning a basketball team and it gives them a rush that burning money in Vegas doesn't. I think they'd be more likely to camp out in the O.C. and try to move to Vegas when the market picks up (if?) rather than sell the team off.

If things get worse in Vegas, they can always file for bankruptcy, it's not as if the businesses are connected in any way so the Kings wouldn't be liquidated or anything if things for them in Vegas got worse. And no one has ever excused them of being anything close to shrewd businessmen, so I think their savvy only goes so far to begin with. (Hence why making a visceral move to the OC rather than to a market with a newer arena, where the team came from and no NBA team.)

I think this is very accurate. The Maloof's are not the most savvy business people out there and they always loved the limelight being very visible and surprisingly accessible at Kings games. Any move to Anaheim would be temporary pending a facility in Las Vegas and the league giving them permission to go there. However, I believe they would be more inclined to keep the team in Sacramento before moving them to either Kansas City or Seattle. Reason being is that they have no ties there at all. Thus, the only way the Kings would move back to Kansas City or to Seattle would be if the Maloof's decided to sell the team which they've publicly stated they will not do.

As for any bankruptcy issues related to the casino business I figure they'd go for a reorganization first as opposed to an outright liquidation. Either way the team would not be a part of it.

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St. Louis can at best support 2.5 major league teams. Unfortunately you don't get half teams. The Blues and the Rams compete in a quasi (quasi because if both teams blow St. Louisans won't go to either) zero sum tug of war for that 1.5, and both suffer as a result.

I think Milwaukee is an example of a city with 2.5 teams. Although it'd be hard to repeat that dynamic in St. Louis unless the NFL starts to seriously consider Cape Girardeau as a relocation candidate.

And what about MLS... wouldn't their clubs be considered .5 of a team? St. Louis has always been one of their target cities and it sure seems like they'd jump at the chance to put a team there if the Rams were to leave.

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If MLS is lucky, the new Blues owner will be a passionate soccer fan. The only thing stopping an MLS team there (save for a facility, of course) is an owner that doesn't suck. Or more specifically, someone with the financial wherewithal to own a club there.

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St. Louis can at best support 2.5 major league teams. Unfortunately you don't get half teams. The Blues and the Rams compete in a quasi (quasi because if both teams blow St. Louisans won't go to either) zero sum tug of war for that 1.5, and both suffer as a result.

I think Milwaukee is an example of a city with 2.5 teams. Although it'd be hard to repeat that dynamic in St. Louis unless the NFL starts to seriously consider Cape Girardeau as a relocation candidate.

And what about MLS... wouldn't their clubs be considered .5 of a team? St. Louis has always been one of their target cities and it sure seems like they'd jump at the chance to put a team there if the Rams were to leave.

Whoa, that market is even smaller than Green Bays, but hey if the NFL can work in tiny green bay, why not :P, gotta make sure the fans own it like the packers, and they gotta do heavy advertising, like posters all over town, and I looked at the dma maps and it's smack dab between the St. Louis AND Memphis markets, so if they are creative, not only would east MO and southern IL have fans, so will west KY & west TN

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And what about MLS... wouldn't their clubs be considered .5 of a team? St. Louis has always been one of their target cities and it sure seems like they'd jump at the chance to put a team there if the Rams were to leave.

Problem with MLS in St. Louis is the summer schedule. The Rams' departure would free up some corporate dollars, but the MLS team would play its games at the absolute worst time, directly challenging the Cardinals.

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St. Louis can at best support 2.5 major league teams. Unfortunately you don't get half teams. The Blues and the Rams compete in a quasi (quasi because if both teams blow St. Louisans won't go to either) zero sum tug of war for that 1.5, and both suffer as a result.

I think Milwaukee is an example of a city with 2.5 teams. Although it'd be hard to repeat that dynamic in St. Louis unless the NFL starts to seriously consider Cape Girardeau as a relocation candidate.

And what about MLS... wouldn't their clubs be considered .5 of a team? St. Louis has always been one of their target cities and it sure seems like they'd jump at the chance to put a team there if the Rams were to leave.

Depends on the team these days. Some teams like Chivas USA, sure, they're .5. Then on the other hand you have Seattle where the Sounders are drawing better than the Mariners on average.

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I think they should go with the name that the Charlotte Bobcats should have gone with... Flight. Isn't Anaheim known for some kind of airport or airplane building anyways (just guessing)?

One city that everyone on here is overlooking is Louisville, KY. They just opened up the brand new KFC YUM Center and will either use that facility to attract a team (if they can get UL to budge) or they will renovate Freedom Hall for $80 million (most likely) and go after a team. Local attorney J. Bruce Miller has been hot after a team for well over a decade now and supposedly has foreign investors lined up.

I too initially believed that Anaheim would be a holdover til Las Vegas either went with that new 3 facility proposal for downtown or went with the UNLV 2 facility package on campus. However, there is no way that is happening. If they go to Anaheim it will be for the long run. To break the lease with Sacramento the Maloofs will have to pay $100 million which will likely come from Henry Samueli in Anaheim and he is going to want a rock solid lease to make sure he recoops this investment. The Honda Center and the Ducks are also going to want a long term lease with the guarantee of no Los Angeles Royals of Anaheim name. These lease agreements are why the idea of the Grizzlies or Bobcats moving is absurd. Not happening!

Unfortunately, unless the owners make significant headway with the players union in this round of collective bargaining agreements, look for 2/3 teams in one major metro area to be a thing of the norm. Look for Newark to grab a team once the Nets bolt for Brooklyn and look for Chicago to possibly grab a second team on the southside (almost got the Grizzlies). The current NBA setup just isn't friendly to small markets.

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Isn't Anaheim known for some kind of airport or airplane building anyways (just guessing)?

Anaheim is known for Disneyland. Yes, Orange County has an airport. Idk that is what were known for. It is however named after John Wayne.

My suggestion is Orange County Crush, or Anaheim Crush (since I know anaheim has a rule about the city being part of the name)

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Isn't Anaheim known for some kind of airport or airplane building anyways (just guessing)?

Anaheim is known for Disneyland. Yes, Orange County has an airport. Idk that is what were known for. It is however named after John Wayne.

My suggestion is Orange County Crush, or Anaheim Crush (since I know anaheim has a rule about the city being part of the name)

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Problem with MLS in St. Louis is the summer schedule. The Rams' departure would free up some corporate dollars, but the MLS team would play its games at the absolute worst time, directly challenging the Cardinals.

That and St. Louis in July feels like being inside a fat guy's armpit. No day games for them.

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Isn't Anaheim known for some kind of airport or airplane building anyways (just guessing)?

Anaheim is known for Disneyland. Yes, Orange County has an airport. Idk that is what were known for. It is however named after John Wayne.

My suggestion is Orange County Crush, or Anaheim Crush (since I know anaheim has a rule about the city being part of the name)

I wouldnt be able to watch one of their games without thinking about orange soda

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I guess maybe the name back to the Royals will allow them to put up some retired numbers and a championship banner (a la the revived Ottawa Senators, who just raised banners, but still) so maybe that's cool in a backwards way.

More like a la the LA Lakers having Minneapolis Lakers stuff. It's still the same franchise, hardly "revived."

Actually, do they have banners and numbers? Surely Oscar Robertson's number is retired? ... Yes, Bob Davies, Maurice Stokes, and Oscar Robertson's numbers are all retired by the Kings for their time as Royals.

Frequent moves and willy-nilly name changes are minor league stuff. If they have to change the name for the same reason they did before...going back to Royals has a certain symmetery and dignity to it. Go to something else new and you have Wizards 2.0

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... they were orginally called the Rochester Royals...then kept the name in Cincinnati and Kansas City (where it eventuilly switched to the Kings due to their MLB team with the same name).

The NBA franchise was never named the Royals while playing in Kansas City. They were renamed the Kings upon arrival in Kansas City in 1972, as MLB's Kansas City Royals had been playing in the Missouri city since 1969.

You mean upon arrival in Kansas City and Omaha.

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... they were orginally called the Rochester Royals...then kept the name in Cincinnati and Kansas City (where it eventuilly switched to the Kings due to their MLB team with the same name).

The NBA franchise was never named the Royals while playing in Kansas City. They were renamed the Kings upon arrival in Kansas City in 1972, as MLB's Kansas City Royals had been playing in the Missouri city since 1969.

You mean upon arrival in Kansas City and Omaha.

I still don't know why, since St. Louis still had the football Cardinals/baseball Cardinals, KC couldn't have had the baseball Royals/basketball Royals.

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One city that everyone on here is overlooking is Louisville, KY. They just opened up the brand new KFC YUM Center and will either use that facility to attract a team (if they can get UL to budge) or they will renovate Freedom Hall for $80 million (most likely) and go after a team. Local attorney J. Bruce Miller has been hot after a team for well over a decade now and supposedly has foreign investors lined up.

Problem: Louisville has massive loyalty to the Wildcats and the Cardinals. Look at Memphis-college loyalty doesn't always convert to pro loyalty.

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St. Louis will likely pick up the Hornets once Howard Balsille purchases the Blues and moves them to Hamilton.

And Howard Balsille would be...?

Besides the punchline of that joke, the guy who tried to buy the Phoenix Coyotes in a bankruptcy deal and the previous attempts at other NHL teams.

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