WSU151 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 I don't get all the hate over the larger front wordmark. Just because it isn't done by any current teams at the NFL level, doesn't mean it will look bad.I can think of dozens of college teams that look great with large front wordmarks. High school teams too. Which is why the NFL teams look bad when they do it. The NFL should be in a better aesthetic tranche than college or high school.The same can be said for a NFL team having a blank helmet. Oh wait.Coincidentally, when the Oilers were switching to Titans, one of the names suggested was "Tennessee Copperheads", with a blank copper helmet in the uniform. A cool "idea" (and people were pushing for it) in 1998, but really, it would have looked terrible.For the Browns, the blank helmet has always been a weakness, and IMO, the brown facemask isn't the best option. Smart is believing half of what you hear. Genius is knowing which half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmoore1203 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 I don't get all the hate over the larger front wordmark. Just because it isn't done by any current teams at the NFL level, doesn't mean it will look bad.I can think of dozens of college teams that look great with large front wordmarks.It looks amateurish, when it's only done in college it looks amateurish. It doesn't look bad in college, but looks out of place in the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSU151 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 If the Packers had a huge "GREEN BAY" across the chest, the team's HQ would burn down. Smart is believing half of what you hear. Genius is knowing which half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red&Blue Crew Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 I think the "College" vs "Professional" uniform argument is blown out of proportion. Today, most of the innovation in uniforms takes place at the college level (jersey cuts, helmet finishes etc.) so saying "that's a college look" doesn't seem like it should really be used negatively toward a uniform.Also, even if the "Cleveland" wordmark across the Browns new jerseys, and rumored matte helmets are design elements lifted from a "College" aesthetic, they're hardly as offensive as some of the other recent examples:- Two-Tone helmets- Chrome anything- Reflective elements- etc. Nobody ... I mean nobody ... circles the wagons like The Buffalo Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOldRoman Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 I don't get all the hate over the larger front wordmark. Just because it isn't done by any current teams at the NFL level, doesn't mean it will look bad.I can think of dozens of college teams that look great with large front wordmarks.High school teams too. Which is why the NFL teams look bad when they do it. The NFL should be in a better aesthetic tranche than college or high school.Uh oh. I think you've typed some keywords to trigger the logarithm and awaken the Dennisbergen bot. Be prepared for an angry "High schools are light years ahead of the NFL in jersey's (sic)" post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSU151 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 I think the "College" vs "Professional" uniform argument is blown out of proportion. Today, most of the innovation in uniforms takes place at the college level (jersey cuts, helmet finishes etc.) so saying "that's a college look" doesn't seem like it should really be used negatively toward a uniform.Also, even if the "Cleveland" wordmark across the Browns new jerseys, and rumored matte helmets are design elements lifted from a "College" aesthetic, they're hardly as offensive as some of the other recent examples:- Two-Tone helmets- Chrome anything- Reflective elements- etc.Seems like the most collegiate uniforms in the NFL are the most poorly rated. Smart is believing half of what you hear. Genius is knowing which half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOldRoman Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 I think the "College" vs "Professional" uniform argument is blown out of proportion. Today, most of the innovation in uniforms takes place at the college level (jersey cuts, helmet finishes etc.) so saying "that's a college look" doesn't seem like it should really be used negatively toward a uniform.Well, that's because these colleges aren't above whoring themselves out and completely leaving their uniforms to the whim of shoe companies. The NFL allowed those awful Reebok/Adidas jerseys for some players, but it wasn't until Nike got the recent contract that they ceded most of the league to a proprietary manufacturer template. Colleges wear multiple proprietary templates per year in some cases. Also, in large part because the college teams are shoe sluts, they wear multiple random alternates and change uniforms every few years, whereas NFL teams have generally been far more settled in terms of wearing jerseys for long stretches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FFWally Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Dang it, Id just be happy if the Cowboys would wear the white helmet on Thanksgiving again! I like that you can still turn on an NFL game and know immediately who is playing... how often do you turn on a game on Saturday, and have to look for the score to see who is playing. Half the time your favorite school doesn't even have their colors in the uniform. So while the Oregonization of college football makes watching a game weird, the NFL at least keeps things mostly static.As for a large Cleveland wordmark... I just don't see it happening on game uniforms. Maybe NIKE thinks the only way to tell its Cleveland and not Syracuse is labeling it? Fictional History of the SFAF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy MidGrady Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 I like that you can still turn on an NFL game and know immediately who is playing... how often do you turn on a game on Saturday, and have to look for the score to see who is playing.I have never had this problem 100% serious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 I think the "College" vs "Professional" uniform argument is blown out of proportion. Today, most of the innovation in uniforms takes place at the college level (jersey cuts, helmet finishes etc.) so saying "that's a college look" doesn't seem like it should really be used negatively toward a uniform.I'd consider most "innovation" at the college level from the last decade and a half to be garbage.Also, even if the "Cleveland" wordmark across the Browns new jerseys, and rumored matte helmets are design elements lifted from a "College" aesthetic, they're hardly as offensive as some of the other recent examples:- Two-Tone helmets- Chrome anything- Reflective elements- etc.All of those elements had their debut at the NCAA level before being adopted by NFL teams. In that context? A giant wordmark isn't the most egregious element a NFL team could take from the college level, but it's still not ideal. Certain design elements are associated with certain levels of football. The giant wordmark is a collegiate staple. A team rocking it at the NFL level would look...amateurish. PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njdawg2000 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 And that's your opinion.I personally like it.I don't get all the hate over the larger front wordmark. Just because it isn't done by any current teams at the NFL level, doesn't mean it will look bad.I can think of dozens of college teams that look great with large front wordmarks.It looks amateurish, when it's only done in college it looks amateurish. It doesn't look bad in college, but looks out of place in the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDGP Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 I like that you can still turn on an NFL game and know immediately who is playing... how often do you turn on a game on Saturday, and have to look for the score to see who is playing.I have never had this problem 100% seriousThose Wednesday night games can get tricky, though. I've got a dribbble, check it out if you like my stuff; alternatively, if you hate my stuff, send it to your enemies to punish their insolence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmoore1203 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 And that's your opinion.I personally like it.I don't get all the hate over the larger front wordmark. Just because it isn't done by any current teams at the NFL level, doesn't mean it will look bad.I can think of dozens of college teams that look great with large front wordmarks.It looks amateurish, when it's only done in college it looks amateurish. It doesn't look bad in college, but looks out of place in the NFLIt's not an opinion, that is an attribute that is clearly associated with the college ranks, and is thus amateurish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bathysphere Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 I like that you can still turn on an NFL game and know immediately who is playing... how often do you turn on a game on Saturday, and have to look for the score to see who is playing.I have never had this problem 100% seriousReally? Not that it's overly surprising, but I will admit that games like this have been a bit tricky to the eyes for me, and I even go to UF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScubaSteve Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 I don't get all the hate over the larger front wordmark. Just because it isn't done by any current teams at the NFL level, doesn't mean it will look bad.I can think of dozens of college teams that look great with large front wordmarks.Because if there's one thing that people in these forums hate, it's change. Even if the change actually looks good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Wine Pirate Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 And that's your opinion.I personally like it.I don't get all the hate over the larger front wordmark. Just because it isn't done by any current teams at the NFL level, doesn't mean it will look bad.I can think of dozens of college teams that look great with large front wordmarks.It looks amateurish, when it's only done in college it looks amateurish. It doesn't look bad in college, but looks out of place in the NFLIt's not an opinion, that is an attribute that is clearly associated with the college ranks, and is thus amateurishNo, it's nothing more than a person's opinion. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red&Blue Crew Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 I think the "College" vs "Professional" uniform argument is blown out of proportion. Today, most of the innovation in uniforms takes place at the college level (jersey cuts, helmet finishes etc.) so saying "that's a college look" doesn't seem like it should really be used negatively toward a uniform.Well, that's because these colleges aren't above whoring themselves out and completely leaving their uniforms to the whim of shoe companies. The NFL allowed those awful Reebok/Adidas jerseys for some players, but it wasn't until Nike got the recent contract that they ceded most of the league to a proprietary manufacturer template. Colleges wear multiple proprietary templates per year in some cases. Also, in large part because the college teams are shoe sluts, they wear multiple random alternates and change uniforms every few years, whereas NFL teams have generally been far more settled in terms of wearing jerseys for long stretches.As opposed to the NFL, Who let Reebok pipe and side-panel us all into submission for 10 years. Nobody ... I mean nobody ... circles the wagons like The Buffalo Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damnyoutuesday Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 I think the "College" vs "Professional" uniform argument is blown out of proportion. Today, most of the innovation in uniforms takes place at the college level (jersey cuts, helmet finishes etc.) so saying "that's a college look" doesn't seem like it should really be used negatively toward a uniform. Well, that's because these colleges aren't above whoring themselves out and completely leaving their uniforms to the whim of shoe companies. The NFL allowed those awful Reebok/Adidas jerseys for some players, but it wasn't until Nike got the recent contract that they ceded most of the league to a proprietary manufacturer template. Colleges wear multiple proprietary templates per year in some cases. Also, in large part because the college teams are shoe sluts, they wear multiple random alternates and change uniforms every few years, whereas NFL teams have generally been far more settled in terms of wearing jerseys for long stretches.As opposed to the NFL, Who let Reebok pipe and side-panel us all into submission for 10 years.I'd take any of the Nike elements over piping and side-panels Sorry, I'm on an iPad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOldRoman Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 I think the "College" vs "Professional" uniform argument is blown out of proportion. Today, most of the innovation in uniforms takes place at the college level (jersey cuts, helmet finishes etc.) so saying "that's a college look" doesn't seem like it should really be used negatively toward a uniform.Well, that's because these colleges aren't above whoring themselves out and completely leaving their uniforms to the whim of shoe companies. The NFL allowed those awful Reebok/Adidas jerseys for some players, but it wasn't until Nike got the recent contract that they ceded most of the league to a proprietary manufacturer template. Colleges wear multiple proprietary templates per year in some cases. Also, in large part because the college teams are shoe sluts, they wear multiple random alternates and change uniforms every few years, whereas NFL teams have generally been far more settled in terms of wearing jerseys for long stretches.As opposed to the NFL, Who let Reebok pipe and side-panel us all into submission for 10 years.Those were terrible uniform designs, but they weren't designs that highlighted proprietary Reebok templates and Reebok wasn't making random color alternates for teams or adding their popular product color of the day to teams' existing schemes. The NFL's bad uniforms of the '00s aren't even close to Pro Combats and the other trash from college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucksFan5 Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2015/04/08/retailers-to-get-new-browns-uniforms-later-next-week/#.VSW91U2IKqo.twitterTL;DR: The uniforms we believe to be real are not and don't exist.Retailers to get new uniforms later next weekThere is no more closely guarded secret right now in Berea than the new uniforms for the Cleveland Browns.Not even who they might take at No. 12 or 19 on April 30 is as closely guarded as the new uniforms. Select team employees and players have seen the 3 new jerseys, 3 new pairs of pants and redesigned helmet, but everyone is sworn to secrecy.Safety Donte Whitner caused a stir on Twitter after he got a look at them after modeling them for a Nike photo shoot on March 24. Whitner tweeted, All I can say is that I saw the New Jersey and cleveland you will be proud! followed by: Best jerseys in the league! Hands down! 9 different color combos!He was quickly told to stop tweeting and talking about them. Their identity is to remain sacred knowledge.Over the weekend leaked pictures of the alleged new look of a white and orange jersey hit social media like a firestorm, but the authenticity of them is in doubt. The reason is simple: retailers dont have them yet and they will not start receiving the new jerseys for sale until after they are unveiled next Tuesday evening at the Cleveland Convention Center.In an effort to prevent leaks from retailers, the new merchandise will not be available for purchase around town immediately. Local retailers will receive the new uniforms to sell later next week.However, fans anxious to get their hands on the new threads Tuesday night wont be left out in the cold.The Browns will have a portable team shop at the Convention Center set up for selected season ticket members who were invited for the event to purchase them onsite and the team shop at FirstEnergy Stadium will open for a few hours after the reveal for the general public.If you wont be downtown next Tuesday night, the teams website ClevelandBrowns.com will also be ready to take orders for the 3 new jerseys and other new merchandise the team will offer.The Browns spent nearly 2 years working closely with the NFL and Nike on a whole new look for the team, which has seen just minor tweaks to the uniforms and helmet over the decades, and they dont want it spoiled by a premature leak. It is anticipated that what will be unveiled next week will be a radical new look, hence the angst and excitement that is building with fans wanting to be first to reveal them or see them.The orange carpet event will run from 6-8 p.m. with the Browns television partner, WEWS NewsChannel 5, broadcasting a 1-hour long special of the reveal from 7-8 p.m. at the Convention Center. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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