chakfu Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 Speaking of petitions...LeCharles Bentley has still been listed on the Browns site as #00 since he signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk36 Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 Didn't the Seahawks initially list Brian Bosworth as a LB/FB so that he could wear #44? I remember seeing him wearing #44 his first season but then #55 after that. Maybe the NFL tightened the rules to say that his number has to be tied to his primary position.In any event, I agree that the NFL number system is flawed when a running back can't wear numbers 1-19. Simply doesn't make sense. But, then again, neither does banning the 49ers coach from wearing a suit and tie. Design Hovie Studios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStoicPaisano Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 The argument about helping the refs is rendered moot in my opinion because college officials are able to differentiate without a problem. There are some rules in college regarding numbers, at least regarding eligible receivers. Last year, Ohio State moved a linebacker and a guard to a blocking tight end position. They switched from 54 and 69 to 87 and 96 in order to become eligible.Every other postition seems to be anything goes, though I've never seen a RB over 49 or QB over 24. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooter Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 I can't wait till the NFL makes him get rid of that retarded "619" on his eyeshades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSky Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 I can't wait till the NFL makes him get rid of that retarded "619" on his eyeshades. Somehow I can't see him as #21 since that was LenDale White's number at USC.Re the "slippery slope" argument, can't you see it would be opening Pandora's box? You'd have #60 playing QB somewhere (like Otto Graham) and #9 at defensive end (Mario) and maybe a #79 at fullback...and so on. The guidelines make sense. Having "anything goes" would be a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swilson160 Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 Re the "slippery slope" argument, can't you see it would be opening Pandora's box? You'd have #60 playing QB somewhere (like Otto Graham) and #9 at defensive end (Mario) and maybe a #79 at fullback...and so on. So what? I don't get why this is a big deal--if high school and college refs can tell the difference between players without inane numbering rules, why can't NFL refs do the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VitaminD Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 So what? I don't get why this is a big deal--if high school and college refs can tell the difference between players without inane numbering rules, why can't NFL refs do the same? 2 reasons.For one, many players in high school play on both sides of the ball. So the tialback may double as a linebacker, and the tight end may be a defensive end. Also, few schools get specialists for kicking and punting - our fullback doubled as our punter, which meant our punter wore #31.For another, the speed of the NFL game is warp speed compared to high school football and many college games. Not only are there noticeable differences in NCAA v. NFL rules, but most of the guys playing in an average NCAA game - even Division I-A - aren't NFL material. The skill level is lower. Thus, it could be argued that NFL referees need a more structured system since their game is harder to officiate than football played at the lower levels. "Start spreading the news... They're leavin' today... Won't get to be a part of it... In old New York..."In order for the Mets' run of 12 losses in 17 games to mean something, the Phillies still had to win 13 of 17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swilson160 Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 So what? I don't get why this is a big deal--if high school and college refs can tell the difference between players without inane numbering rules, why can't NFL refs do the same? 2 reasons.For one, many players in high school play on both sides of the ball. So the tialback may double as a linebacker, and the tight end may be a defensive end. Also, few schools get specialists for kicking and punting - our fullback doubled as our punter, which meant our punter wore #31.For another, the speed of the NFL game is warp speed compared to high school football and many college games. Not only are there noticeable differences in NCAA v. NFL rules, but most of the guys playing in an average NCAA game - even Division I-A - aren't NFL material. The skill level is lower. Thus, it could be argued that NFL referees need a more structured system since their game is harder to officiate than football played at the lower levels. I guess I can understand using numbers to differentiate between eligible and ineligible recievers, but it seems like it'd be okay to give more leeway amongst eligible recievers--let Jared Lorenzen wear #22, Reggie Bush wear #5, and Mike Williams wear #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk36 Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 Exactly. I see the reasoning behind the linemen rules, but what's the difference between what a running back and wide receiver can do? If a back is #18, how is that going to throw off the ref? Do refs get confused when a running back goes in motion and lines up as a wide receiver? Does all hell break loose when a receiver or tight end line up as an H back? Design Hovie Studios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichO Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 The number guidelines in the NFL with the exception of very broad categories have no supporting rationale other than personal tastes of some people. "Rules are rules" isn't much of an argument when the rules have no underlying logic.So differentiate between linemen and everyone else and maybe make non-DB defensive players wear numbers above 40 or 50. There's no harm in a LB wearing 45 or a RB wearing 5 or a QB in 20. Sure it looks a little different but that's all there is against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Mexico Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 The league needs to tell him to take #5 and shove it. If he wants to do his thing in the NFL, he's gotta play by the rules. When you play with the big boys, you can wear the numbers that are available to you within the limits of the standard. They have those rules for a reason. ANGER! You used to hold meTell me that I was the bestAnything in this world I wantI could possesAll that made me wantWas all that I can getIn order to surviveGotta learn to live with regrets-President Carter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themightyspitz Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 I can't wait till the NFL makes him get rid of that retarded "619" on his eyeshades. I couldn't agree more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouj Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 I can't wait till the NFL makes him get rid of that retarded "619" on his eyeshades. I couldn't agree more. The sports talk here in Houston mentioned the "619" eyeblack situation pre-draft (back when it looked like Bush was Houston-bound). The NFL already informed him that the "619" eyeblack would not be allowed. It falls under the same rule that made John Randle and that other Viking (Hovan maybe?) quit painting most of their faces with eyeblack. Go Astros!Go Texans!Go Rockets!Go Javelinas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claystation360 Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 #DTWD #GoJaguars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cappital92 Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 Okay............... http://www.wizardsxtra.com Is it the shoes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 He should just get 25 and electrical tape over the two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBGKon Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 He should just get 25 and electrical tape over the two heck, theres probably a rule about that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CS85 Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 Funny, but confusing. Quote "You are nothing more than a small cancer on this message board. You are not entertaining, you are a complete joke." twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Survival79 Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 Okay............... "If things have gone wrong, I'm talking to myself, and you've got a wet towel wrapped around your head." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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